who spliffed SADCR and why

[Gallagher]

1 minute ago, Stephen said:

Hey, you guys are just speculating. I did not dismantle SADCR (yet), and my new position won’t affect the project. I will sit with Liam and Midwest tomorrow and figure out what’s best for the server and custody. Updates will follow, until then, my dms are open to answer your concerns. 

 

what does "(yet)" mean?

[YungAli6969]

1 minute ago, Gallagher said:

 

what does "(yet)" mean?

It means prepare to be heartbroken despite our outcry in support of it. The only naysayers are legal RPs who struggle to find interesting things to do with their failing departments. Literally everyone else wants this.

[ZaE]

9 minutes ago, Jonesy said:

Called it.

 

[Midwest]

4 minutes ago, Stephen said:

Hey, you guys are just speculating. I did not dismantle SADCR (yet), and my new position won’t affect the project. I will sit with Liam and Midwest tomorrow and figure out what’s best for the server and custody. Updates will follow, until then, my dms are open to answer your concerns. 

Piggy backing off this. The whole narrative that it was "closing" was baselessly started by someone who was removed from the planning team. At no point was this discussed, and at no point were they "told by the people running it" that it was being closed to refocus on the jail. That is patently false and incorrect, and the speculation surrounding it has rooted from that commentary. 

[Calvano]

10 minutes ago, Midwest said:

Piggy backing off this. The whole narrative that it was "closing" was baselessly started by someone who was removed from the planning team. At no point was this discussed, and at no point were they "told by the people running it" that it was being closed to refocus on the jail. That is patently false and incorrect, and the speculation surrounding it has rooted from that commentary. 

 

  

18 minutes ago, Stephen said:

Hey, you guys are just speculating. I did not dismantle SADCR (yet), and my new position won’t affect the project. I will sit with Liam and Midwest tomorrow and figure out what’s best for the server and custody. Updates will follow, until then, my dms are open to answer your concerns. 

 

 

[Mecovy]

Sounds like a cool project tbf, dedicated prison means everything is tailored and focused on it. 

[Bospy]

26 minutes ago, Midwest said:

Piggy backing off this. The whole narrative that it was "closing" was baselessly started by someone who was removed from the planning team. At no point was this discussed, and at no point were they "told by the people running it" that it was being closed to refocus on the jail. That is patently false and incorrect, and the speculation surrounding it has rooted from that commentary. 

 

This rumor wasn't baselessly started, it was literally told to me by the person coordinating this HERE:

 

I was not at any time told I was being "removed" from the planning team and I have not been told I was removed. You told me tonight after this happened I was removed (might I add, I haven't been told any reason for this removal, I was just "removed" to be removed), but only after this thread was made. You can see in these logs right here that it was being closed to refocus on the jail, in plain writing.

 

At no time was the information below communicated to me that it was in confidence or that I was to retain that information to myself. I expected Stephen to tell everyone else in the project that it was being dismantled. Hence, when I was in a faction discord tonight and saw people discussing the project, I told them about the news.

 

He added the "NOT CONFIRMED YET" tonight when this situation exploded. Before hand it was just "regarding sadcr, it's being dismantled"

 

 

Have some honesty and transparency here because I wrote three volumes of the manual and I am STILL willing to continue working on this project but now I'm being told I've been inextricably "removed" for some arbitrary reason and nobody is willing to explain why yet you're dragging me through the mud to say my statement is false but what I was given is what I was told. If it was a mistake, own up to it.

 

 

 

Frankly, I am still thoroughly confused.

Edited August 29, 2022 by Bospy

[donald_trompas]

I’m tired of the county I want to sip wariche with the carnales on the four yard but all I see is sd complaining about jail hours and killing people with beanbag guns 

 

make jail rp great again 

 

[KinnyWynny]

35 minutes ago, YungAli6969 said:

It means prepare to be heartbroken despite our outcry in support of it. The only naysayers are legal RPs who struggle to find interesting things to do with their failing departments. Literally everyone else wants this.

yeah oh boy lets completely disregard the people actively running legal departments and know the issues in and out with running them, including not having enough things for its members to do at all times that they get bored, do something else and the faction inevitably downturns until it expands into places it shouldn't go.

 

don't get me wrong, SADCR is a cool concept, just like how a Coast Guard faction is a cool concept, or a Private EMS company ran by a corporation is a cool(est) concept. Will these things happen? Schmaybe. Will they survive? Doubtful. You gotta realize with all things SADCR has some major hurdles.

 

You're going to have a very good core of extremely invested people running it, at first. Like everything, unless you attract new people to it, you're going to spiral into inactivity. SADCR luckily, unlike every other legal faction concept, has a strong illegal faction backing. Unfortunately, the issue is... its gonna be a prison, with the same interior, and eventually you're going to have very similar day out, and day in roleplay. You're not going to be out and about, shit Cali doesn't even give marked vehicles for its Prisons. Besides buses.

 

The issue with TTCF is the fact people are forced to be in there on the Sheriff side, to "create jail activity" which makes people resent jail hours and they don't do them. SADCR being TTCF on steroids is going to find a similar problem maintaining activity, once that new shiny coat of paint is done, you're gonna have to figure out how to keep the prison interesting after the inmate population starts going away, and your active core eventually is either replaced or moves on to other things. Also my biggest issue with TTCF was the near-weekly riots and constant violence whenever a decent amount of COs got on. So it COs stopped getting on constantly.

And thats the problem with niche legal factions, unless you can find your schtick and do it well. It'll fail, the reason there's naysayers from the legal side is, well, because we've been there, done that. And it usually follows the same pattern. I hope SADCR can break out of that mold, someones got to.

Edited August 29, 2022 by KinnyWynny

[Gallagher]

1 minute ago, KinnyWynny said:

yeah oh boy lets completely disregard the people actively running legal departments and know the issues in and out with running them, including not having enough things for its members to do at all times that they get bored, do something else and the faction inevitable downturns until it expands into places it shouldn't go.

 

don't get me wrong, SADCR is a cool concept, just like how a Coast Guard faction is a cool concept, or a Private EMS company ran by a corporation is a cool(est) concept. Will these things happen? Schmaybe. Will they survive? Doubtful. You gotta realize with all things SADCR has some major hurdles.

 

You're going to have a very good core of extremely invested people running it, at first. Like everything, unless you attract new people to it, you're going to spiral into inactivity. SADCR luckily, unlike every other legal faction concept, has a strong illegal faction backing. Unfortunately, the issue is... its gonna be a prison, with the same interior, and eventually you're going to have very similar day out, and day in roleplay. You're not going to be out and about, shit Cali doesn't even give marked vehicles for its Prisons. Besides buses.

 

The issue with TTCF is the fact people are forced to be in there on the Sheriff side, to "create jail activity" which makes people resent jail hours and they don't do them. SADCR being TTCF on steroids is going to find a similar problem maintaining activity, once that new shiny coat of paint is done, you're gonna have to figure out how to keep the prison interesting after the inmate population starts going away, and your active core eventually is either replaced or moves on to other things.

And thats the problem with niche legal factions, unless you can find your schtick and do it well. It'll fail, the reason there's naysayers from the legal side is, well, because we've been there, done that. And it usually follows the same pattern. I hope SADCR can break out of that mold, someones got to.

 

sadcr existed for nearly ten years on LSRP.

 

this server is BIGGER

with a BETTER script

with a BETTER playerbase

there’s absolutely no reason why it would work there and not here 

Edited August 29, 2022 by Gallagher