too many mobs

[Jura]

stop putting retards in these "street gangs" that get punished for DM and you'll have more street gangs.

[Edward_Ramos]

2 minutes ago, Jura said:

stop putting retards in these "street gangs" that get punished for DM and you'll have more street gangs.

this dude the roleplay reporter

[Jura]

Just now, Edward_Ramos said:

this dude the roleplay reporter

no retard, i barely go down to that area, all i need to do is look at player reports and the amount of closed factions to figure that out

[Edward_Ramos]

21 hours ago, weede said:

The admins ban half the gang bangers eventually because they don't realise that the 'DM' that happens down there, IRL is both frequent and frequently without 'good reason'. They also don't take into account that the scene is incredibly competitive to the point where it could be classed as PVP.

 

Not to mention the cops and their 30 point system and 2-3 week court cases which they justify as being 'the best on any server' (yeah for the lawyers, cops and judges) which a lot of Afro rpers just offline for because there's practically no real black car in the prison system which is dominated by the Ⓜ️ and Whitey Hitlersson MacNiggahater constantly pulling out ye olde shanke. Some guys get so many crimes put on them for their first arrest that they aren't allowed back out without parole. This is all catering towards the legal scene and partly the OCG scene, but holds little consideration for the gang scene which is where the majority of petty and violent criminal activity takes place.

 

That's why there's so many undeveloped gang banging characters.

 

On the second hand, because of the lack of developed gang bangers, they don't get the coveted supplier ranks as much as the OCGs, which results in incredibly unrealistic things like OCGs trying to move weed in bulk to gang bangers. I personally think the OCGs should deal in coke and the other drugs like LSD that're incredibly hard to synthesise or otherwise manufacture.

 

Meth's mostly produced by the county RPers and that scene for supply is all good and dandy, but there's no demand because of another oversight - drug effects.

We admit that a lot of people won't take drugs just for RP, and that's why the drug effects are there. Weed and cocaine are the only illegal drugs commercially viable in this server for the common man.

 

Cocaine makes ya hyped for fights, and gives you extra HP. RPly, and game effect wise, it's viable.

Weed for some reason gives you a minor amount of HP. Doesn't make too much sense but who gives a shit?

 

On the other hand, some genius decided that both meth and LSD's effect is to give you a temporary +2kg carrying boost.

 

Now I ask you this: Who the fuck thinks "I need to carry stuff past my inventory limit for a short amount of time"? Only perhaps a drug mule.

Now RPly, do you think the scarce amount of this type of person who needs this inventory limit boost is gonna say, "Let me just put this tab of LSD on my tongue so I can hallucinate for 12 hours and somehow carry more weight"? It makes no sense. In fact, it contradicts itself. It makes negative sense.

 

Do you think people use meth before a gunfight in this server if they want to win? Hell no, they use coke. Meth is just as good, RPly speaking, for pain suppression, focus and energy, but the average consumer in Davis ain't gonna take some before a gunfight which makes the effect useless to them.

Realistically, a good percentage of the houses in Davis would have at least one plant in them. Weed is grown by the ghetto populace en masse. Who the hell imports weed or weed seeds anymore? You can pick 'em from low grade bud, or buy 'em off the internet, the seeds that is. The OCGs IRL barely import weed into America anymore because post-911 it's much safer and effective to grow local.

 

Weed growing RP could add opportunities for people in Davis to get on with some passive crime RP, but no, we have these mobsters doing it because someone decided they're the only ones who can.

 

To go off-topic a bit, we are supposed to be RPing in an emulated version of California - a very liberal state where weed is legal, medicinally and recreationally. Shit, I PMed the new Mayor about it before he was elected and it seems like he was apprehensive about pushing for legalisation because he "wasn't sure what the illegal faction management plans for it".

 

To hell with the current IFM, they've failed the people who have pointed these things out time and time again through either negligence or imbecility. They've especially failed gang RP.

 

Bring weed production into the hands of gangbangers. Go a step further, make legalisation happen like it should have, and have one highly taxed expensive weed market in dispensaries, and one cheap weed market on the streets.

Pure facts. I feel like a lot of people don't realise just how important conflict is for gang rp, whether it's a blown out war or back-n-forth tag-banging with the ocassional fight. Also, the supply for drugs is absolutely insane when compared to the actual demand. In most cases, OCG's depend on street gangs in the supply chain but with the completely fucked up ratio even the drug trade's in shambles. Weed not being even decriminalized is absolute bullshit, too.

[Gargam3i]

On 11/18/2020 at 12:48 AM, Juicy said:

There’s 18 mobs, 9 motorcycle clubs and like 5 gangs, I really think it’s getting out of hand 

Correction: 
Street gangs: 14
OC: 17
DTO: 5-6(?)
MC clubs: 9

[DLimit]

9 hours ago, Edward_Ramos said:

Pure facts. I feel like a lot of people don't realise just how important conflict is for gang rp, whether it's a blown out war or back-n-forth tag-banging with the ocassional fight. Also, the supply for drugs is absolutely insane when compared to the actual demand. In most cases, OCG's depend on street gangs in the supply chain but with the completely fucked up ratio even the drug trade's in shambles. Weed not being even decriminalized is absolute bullshit, too.

I mean, nothing develops, really, when people are PK'd left, right, and center. It should be non-lethal conflicts, in most cases.

[Juicy]

19 minutes ago, Gargam3i said:

Correction: 
Street gangs: 14
OC: 17
DTO: 5-6(?)
MC clubs: 9

I don't know where you've counted 14 gangs 

[MCB666]

2 minutes ago, Juicy said:

I don't know where you've counted 14 gangs 

He probably means unofficial street gangs. 

[Ketamine Kowboy]

Could someone do be a solid and like, make a list of all the factions? Like with names and such, easier to see shit that way

[Trupiano]

I mean the other reason there are more mobs then there street gangs is because street gangs don't let anything develop. As soon as there is even a hint of beef a lot you grab the guns and form a convoy. Before you even say it, I know there is a ton of gun violence in the hood. I'm not saying that has to change. However, if your idea of "hood violence" is rolling up on a block two cars deep and making sure you gun down each and every one? Then your the reason that they're isn't a ton of developed and established street gangs in the hood.

 

Drive by's, quick shootings when you catch someone slipping, that should be the majority of gangland wars. There's so much obsession in making sure you pk everybody so no one can hit you back that you all forget this is an RP server.