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Decrease fist damage depending on age or decrease health depending on age


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8 minutes ago, ENDREAS said:

No where are YOU from? A grown man, 9/10 will drop a 15 year old. Doesn't matter when the last time he hit the gym was. 15 yr old aren't fully developed. A fully developed man is much stronger than an adolescent. Average 30 yr old males in the U.S weigh 180 lbs. Average for 15 yr old males is 124 lbs. That's a huge difference, not to mention the height difference.

Yeah, average teenager aren't gang-banging kids that scrap it out on the daily. Average 30 year-old office worker has no chance against a 15 year-old gang-banger, full of hormones and probably pumped with narcotics with the mentality of a martyr.

Height and weight REALLY means nothing. It means a lot when two FIGHTERS compete against each other, and that's strictly "reach". Height really only determines reach, nothing else. Weight? Has no real meaning without training. It's not a weight-lifting competition. It's a fight. But, to compare gang-bangers to an average thirty year-old? I bet the gang-banger will win.

Variables need to be taken into account than this whole "he's just a kid" argument. However, on GTA:W, everyone's "swollen".

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10 minutes ago, DLimit said:

Yeah, average teenager aren't gang-banging kids that scrap it out on the daily. Average 30 year-old office worker has no chance against a 15 year-old gang-banger, full of hormones and probably pumped with narcotics with the mentality of a martyr.

Height and weight REALLY means nothing. It means a lot when two FIGHTERS compete against each other, and that's strictly "reach". Height really only determines reach, nothing else. Weight? Has no real meaning without training. It's not a weight-lifting competition. It's a fight. But, to compare gang-bangers to an average thirty year-old? I bet the gang-banger will win.

Variables need to be taken into account than this whole "he's just a kid" argument. However, on GTA:W, everyone's "swollen".

 

Except that in our case, most males on the server are either mobsters, gangsters, bikers, swat members or do all sorts of other highly physically demanding positions. Both men and women. I can count on my hands how many characters I've seen who were basic, normal people. Even the very basic of office workers do MMA on the side, are 6'8'' and 300 lbs of pure injected, genetically-engineered muscle. And that's not (completely) an exaggeration.

 

We can play semantics and look at exceptions all day but all in all, the average man is more physically powerful than the average kid or woman, in most cases. At the moment, you can get "rushed" by a 12-year-old and drop in seconds, even though such an attack would, in real life, probably result in serious injuries for the kid and their fragile bones.

 

By this standard, some people also realistically get out of a head-on 100 mph crash with mere scratches, but the norm is that you either don't survive or that you'll be badly injured for a long while. We can't (and shouldn't) change our entire mentalities based on some exceptions.

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4 minutes ago, DLimit said:

Yeah, average teenager aren't gang-banging kids that scrap it out on the daily. Average 30 year-old office worker has no chance against a 15 year-old gang-banger, full of hormones and probably pumped with narcotics with the mentality of a martyr.

Height and weight REALLY means nothing. It means a lot when two FIGHTERS compete against each other, and that's strictly "reach". Height really only determines reach, nothing else. Weight? Has no real meaning without training. It's not a weight-lifting competition. It's a fight. But, to compare gang-bangers to an average thirty year-old? I bet the gang-banger will win.

Variables need to be taken into account than this whole "he's just a kid" argument. However, on GTA:W, everyone's "swollen".

Just a wild guess, you roleplay a criminal/gangbanger. Also height and weight do matter. Most gangbangers come from really bad poverty. Nutrition lacks, they don't hit the gym to train. All they have is rage and high levels of aggression. While that does play a role in fights, it's not enough to take on a fully grown man, especially if he's in decent shape. I'm really curious to know where most illegals here complaining about this suggestion got the idea that adolescent gangbangers, who mostly rely on illegal guns, are these overpowered hulky superhumans. Would some overpower a grown man? Rarely, but can't say never. 

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There is no way you win from a taller and bigger person with equal amount of fight experience, why do you think they got weight divisions in ufc.

 

Obv he could crush Conor if he wanted to by just running over him.

 

 

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43 minutes ago, ENDREAS said:

Just a wild guess, you roleplay a criminal/gangbanger. Also height and weight do matter. Most gangbangers come from really bad poverty. Nutrition lacks, they don't hit the gym to train. All they have is rage and high levels of aggression. While that does play a role in fights, it's not enough to take on a fully grown man, especially if he's in decent shape. I'm really curious to know where most illegals here complaining about this suggestion got the idea that adolescent gangbangers, who mostly rely on illegal guns, are these overpowered hulky superhumans. Would some overpower a grown man? Rarely, but can't say never. 


Nope, just seen tons of adults get beaten down by teenagers, in real life. 

"Also height and weight do matter."

It actually doesn't. It only applies to skilled fighters that engage in combat against each other. Height only benefits "REACH", and that usually applies to sport-related fights. As @Hades said, "equal amount of fight experience". Average real life thirty year-old doesn't have that experience. We're not comparing MMA fighters or Boxers, here, we're comparing average "gang-banging teens" to average thirty year-olds. Average gang-banging teen hits their home-made gym on a daily basis, conducts push-ups, and programs with the local set. The average gang-banging teen engage in street-fights, with each other, every once in a while. They have the mentality, experience, and physique for a street-fighter. Average 30 year old doesn't, and that's the point that we're attempting to make. 

As for weight? Depends on what kind of weight. An unfit 30-year old munching on chips during break will get easily winded out with several strikes to the abdomen, same with fat people. How about muscle and joint pains? Thirty year-olds start undergoing severe back pain. Think they can fight when being circled by a teen? So many things to take into consideration, here. Then, you also got to note that the average gang-banging teen will do cheap shots, even ones that are "illegal" within any Octagon. We're talking "street fights", here, not MMA fights in UFC or boxing matches.

Tons of gang-banging teens are also inspired by MMA. Their older family members and gang-bangers teach them techniques. One rear-naked choke and the adult is gone. Average adult generally isn't trained in the way that a kid from the streets would be trained. Average adult watches TV or goes on the internet, all day, munching on junk food, before working a monotonous job... ESPECIALLY in the U.S.

When you say "180lbs"? That's not muscle, that's fat. Several strikes to the abdomen, and the person will be winded/out of breath (the far-left person represents the average U.S. American Male):
 

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@Mahitto, "you can get "rushed" by a 12-year-old and drop in seconds, even though such an attack would, in real life, probably result in serious injuries for the kid and their fragile bones."

Report the player poor R.P. quality portrayal.

In the end? This is GTA:W, where everyone wants to win with their buffed up characters. This suggestion, as a whole, wants to produce RPG mechanics that doesn't take VARIABLES into account, when it comes to fist-fights. Age isn't the only variable when it comes to the outcome of a fist-fight.

I'm going to add some videos of teens beating up adults who's arms and legs are two-times larger than the teens:

 



Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand... why Size Doesn't Matter:
 

 

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