Aren't the changes in the robbery rules questionable?

[Eastside.Shady]

do people expect robberies to be these eye opening, mind altering rp experiences? getting robbed sucks, getting killed sucks, getting arrested sucks. something is being done to YOUR character and while the rp that may come OUT OF IT could be fun, these experiences by themselves very rarely are. that said, a lot of robberies are "hands!!!" 4 deep but even the absolute best robberies (especially on random civilians) aint all that much better.

[DasFroggy]

11 minutes ago, carlos . said:

I do understand that there are people that put little effort into robberies and their roleplay is subpar when doing so

 

People who also break the rules, and typically don't see adequate punishment for it. One of the recurring themes here is that the standard of criminal roleplay has been allowed to drop significantly. These new rules and their continued additions and expansions are a consequence of "punish rulebreakers in a way that discourages rulebreaking" somehow being controversial now?

 

13 minutes ago, carlos . said:

there are also people who put effort into their robberies.

 

Yes, I'm one of them.

 

14 minutes ago, carlos . said:

I find it hard to believe that there are illegal roleplayers that sit and rob other players every single day and spend most of their time just robbing other players.

 

Some people find it hard to believe the Earth is spherical. The facts disagree with both cases of disbelief.

 

15 minutes ago, carlos . said:

It's the fact you can't use vehicles at ALL

 

As established earlier, this is also wrong. You can use vehicles for planned robberies, if you know the victim, you've scouted them out, know what they have, and where to catch them during their routine. Don't even need to /report for it.

 

17 minutes ago, carlos . said:

they basically deleted robberies from the server

 

I've been robbing people just fine. 

 

18 minutes ago, carlos . said:

I find it insane that people who walk around with expensive jewelry and belongings walk through dangerous spots and expect not to get robbed. Your making yourself a loot pinata with all that crazy shit your carrying, then you got people casually walking around with big duffel bags, of course someone is going to want to rob you.

 

I find it insane that criminals who walk around with guns in the open and extensive criminal records mug people in densely populated public hotspots and open streets and expect not to serve an uncomfortable amount of jail time when they're caught. You're making yourself an easy arrest with all the crazy shit you're doing in the streets thrn you got people casually mugging folks in direct line of sight of police, of course you're going to get arrested.

 

24 minutes ago, carlos . said:

These silly restrictions are just making civilian roleplayers more safe every single time, it's almost like people can't take an L anymore.

 

These silly prison times restrictions are just making criminals roleplayers more safe every single time, it's almost like people can't take an L anymore.

 

We're living with some pretty interesting double standards these days. Apparently only one side is required to take the L, and it's bringing down roleplay quality.

[barrio ruler]

7 minutes ago, DasFroggy said:

As established earlier, this is also wrong. You can use vehicles for planned robberies, if you know the victim, you've scouted them out, know what they have, and where to catch them during their routine. Don't even need to /report for it.

 

You should be able to park your vehicles a few blocks down regardless. You can't even use a BMX for robbery, no one wants run around.

[Irrtadum]

[Moonsong]

32 minutes ago, Eastside.Shady said:

do people expect robberies to be these eye opening, mind altering rp experiences? getting robbed sucks, getting killed sucks, getting arrested sucks. something is being done to YOUR character and while the rp that may come OUT OF IT could be fun, these experiences by themselves very rarely are. that said, a lot of robberies are "hands!!!" 4 deep but even the absolute best robberies (especially on random civilians) aint all that much better.

Exactly my point, nobody necessarily EXPECTS them to be stellar experiences but do expect them to at least be tolerable, to not be immersion breaking.

 

9/10 times It's incredibly disruptive and anything but tolerable. Your character could still end up in hospital despite complying just because they felt like pistol whipping you as they're OOCly pissed you had nothing on you. You  could still end up having to deal with a report on you if you do anything but comply. 

 

[Moonsong]

34 minutes ago, carlos . said:

 

You should be able to park your vehicles a few blocks down regardless. You can't even use a BMX for robbery, no one wants run around.

Then it sounds like you're probably part of the problem. An admin specifically specifically said this defeats the whole purpose of the rule in the first place and the whole reason it's even there is because people WOULD NOT stop robbing randoms all over the map using meta vehicles stacked 4 deep. Why is that so bloody difficult to comprehend?

 

If someone you know is transporting valuable materials and you've scoped them out well in advance, that's a planned robbery and not a petty mugging. 

Edited September 19, 2023 by Moonsong

[borhoi]

50 minutes ago, Moonsong said:

Then it sounds like you're probably part of the problem. An admin specifically specifically said this defeats the whole purpose of the rule in the first place and the whole reason it's even there is because people WOULD NOT stop robbing randoms all over the map using meta vehicles stacked 4 deep. Why is that so bloody difficult to comprehend?

 

If someone you know is transporting valuable materials and you've scoped them out well in advance, that's a planned robbery and not a petty mugging. 

 

[FOOBACCA]

can we stop the crying for a second to establish something?

 

the illegal roleplayers you’re arguing with in this thread aren’t the ones with dogshit roleplay committing all the earth shattering atrocities that are hurting your lil souls. we hate these same shitty roleplayers too. they’re the ones deathmatching us over nothing and getting us arrested because they’ve forced us into stupid ass situations.

 

admins need to be more proactive in punishing the shit players who break rules as opposed to just making rules ridiculously strict and unbearable for those trying to do the right thing. because the same rulebreakers are going to continue to try and find a meta that bends the robbery rules and continue to fleece you for all your shit every day, it’s just negatively affecting the good illegal roleplayers, not the bad ones. 
 

it obviously hasn’t been working because you all cry about how you’re still getting robbed 10x a day. and now the good illegal roleplayers have been dissuaded from robbing at all because it’s just downright too difficult so the only experiences you’re going to have are bad ones. gg

[Koko]

My favourite part about a robbery is having to sit for 45 minutes every time while waiting for an admin because one side made a negligible mistake that wouldn't have changed the outcome and mostly wasn't even done with malice anyway and now we need a Judge Judy moment.

[or brains hang]

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Edited October 14, 2023 by or brains hang