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Hey Wuhtah, chiming back in again! I understand you are not doing it, and you certainly wouldn’t attempt to restrict peoples freedom to speech. however, the reality is - peoples opinions on this matter have been tampered with by staff, and when you’re tampering with posts about staff as a member of staff, it does give off that dictatorship vibe. Say for example I jump on here and I go”Wuhtah is a ****” - yeah, I expect to get warned for that and my comment deleted. But if I say “Wuhtah, you leave a lot to be desired in the way you manage your team, here’s all my issues, I’m bashing on you all as a collective” then by tampering with that post you’d be proving our point - that saying something gets you silenced and that’s exactly what’s happened. Admin takes offense, admin hides post - this isn’t fair when we’re having an open discussion around what staff need to do to improve the server. It’s counter productive and just gives conspiracy theorists ammo. I use you as an example, I don’t genuinely mean your sub team leaves a lot to be desired, just stating that if I stated a valid opinion and you hid it - it’d look a little sus. a couple of 🚩 rise up when valid opinions are hidden when not directly attacking anyone particular, even if the language is harsh - it’s a frustrated person who should be allowed to vent in their own vernacular without a staff member using their own gauge of offensiveness to hide the post. If it’s not a crude comment, then in a discussion thread I don’t believe anything should be hidden. We’re all playing a R16 game, so let’s at a bare minimum presume that the player base and the admins can handle a little bit of shit handed out.

Thank you for teaching me about the history of white walls however, no. but can we get white wall tires finally added for motorcycles? Cos they are common in motorcycle customisation

Hi Wuhtah, apologies - I'm not just aiming at IFM here - it's just that we're talking about roleplay quality, and a large portion of the player base falls under IFM for the illegal RPers. Every staff team has it's issues, not just IFM - but it's the team I've definitely seen the worst side of. As for PM etc, I haven't had many dealings, but the ones I have had have been great and helpful. I'm glad you've touched on how players feeling unheard can lead to bigger issues. Things certainly compound when you feel you've been treated unfairly and situations keep piling on. Fully understandable, however - if there's 2-3 month old requests unanswered, and the fresh ones are - perhaps there should be regulation in place to ensure oldest requests are handled first? It's jarring to look at the reports section and see how many reports admins are relucant to pick up, and it leads to entire storylines and RP scenarios being in limbo for months. Not expecting answers here, I understand the reasoning - no one wants to deal with certain headaches, it's fair but someone has to bite the bullet. Trust me, as someone who manages a nationwide company, I can attest to burn out and how by the end of it, something that seems so major to someone else is just something in your rear-view and you can't be assed with it and need to just do what you can make yourself do. Fully sympathise with that. What I should probably clarify, is that when I say "management" - what I generally mean is the entire staff team as a whole, not just Nervous & Shanks. I look at the actual "management" team like I would a company. They're the directors, under that you have your managers, aka admins, then your assistant managers/office support - testers/player support. 100% Understandable, however if the guidelines aren't clear enough for someone given player support, then maybe those guidelines need to be re-written or an actual dedicated and trained team designated to handle character applications, or an admin to audit each testers application approvals and pull a bulk out at random to inspect and ensure quality control. Agree, you can't give everyone what they want - but the culture of weapons/drug dealing in this server is too restrictive and limits roleplay opportunities. But we have a million discussions going on about that and an IFM discord to discuss it, so I won't try get us into a discussion about that here. I fully expect you deal with your fair share of mongoloids. (See, I'm not staff so I can just say it!) And they burn out the players involved in the scene the admins involved in, so I fully understand why admins after the 2nd situation in their evening can get a little short about the whole thing. However, as you said - treating them this way and making them feel unheard isn't likely to help anything and just make that player act out more aggressively. How to fix it? I don't know. But some admins attitudes can come across as straight being an ass-hat. But we also have to sympathise that this is text-based, and tone isn't always conveyed, and language barriers don't help - but, when I'm speaking to a western, primarily English speaking admin - I know what "Ok bud" means - and it's patronizing and annoying. Is it technically bullying? No, but it aggravates situations and you can't just staff report an admin for minor things like that, but it does leave a sour taste in peoples mouths. A lot of peoples opinions on an admin will be formed over one interaction, so while the server can't really fix that - I hope clued up admins like yourself are capable of figuring that out and acting accordingly. Obviously you'd need to care about someones opinion, which I imagine staff need to develop a thick skin. My suggestion here, is that they all simply go back and read the thread themselves. You shouldn't have to be a mouth piece for the community on your own. If the player base has an issue, every staff member should read it over and absorb it, not take it personally, and strive for betterment. It's one thing to have someone read it out or summarize it for you, it's another to go back and see the intent and the vernacular used to fully emphasize peoples views. Best of luck to you Wuhtah!

You’re correct, my viewpoint isn’t constructive to the discussion of finding ways to fix it - but it’s my opinion based off of what I’ve observed here and over 20 interactions with IFM and other admin teams. Firstly, shout out to the Property Team in @Wuhtah - the statement I made about there being a few solid admins who are good people? They’re one and the fact they’ve allowed the conversation to continue constructively where other admins have popped in to make snide remarks is valuable to the server and a credit to the admin team. So, let me try to be a productive member of this community and offer some actual insights as to what will help improve this issue. 1) IFM need to actually understand what they’re monitoring and make an active effort to listen to experienced players who actually know what they’re talking about, and not twist it to suit their own narrative and beliefs. If we’re going to portray a realistic rp server, let’s actually encourage realism and the horrors of gang life instead of trying to romanticise it and have everyone sing songs around the camp fire. Half the time IFM are acting like camp counsellors, not admins in charge of enforcing realistic portrayals of concepts and to stop making excuses. 2) Server management actually need to reply to things in a timely manner. The fact that players get their refund requests for 600k over a bug archived because no one bothered to pick it up and then told to “reapply if you still want it” instead of resolving the issue is a key example of the Band-Aid, not solution mentality this servers staff have in certain aspects. 3) Goddamn character applications. How do we have a process for ensuring people know the rules, and can RP at a base level and people still get accepted into the server to cause issues? This isn’t the player bases fault, it’s managements. If I took you into a Walmart and you saw a bunch of teenagers running around causing havoc and harassing other patrons, while you’re going to blame the people causing harm, you’re also gonna ask “where the hell is the security team?” 4) Less gate-keeping. The vast majority of the player base can’t actually influence RP culture because they’re not given an Avenue to do so. Do you know how easy it is to grow a weed plant and start selling 50 bags irl? Not hard. But on this server you have to come up with some grand explanation as to how you’ll do it. Weapon suppliers face the same issue - lack of rp concepts and ways to execute because half the faction concepts people want to make can’t start or be viable because they can’t make the resources required to keep a faction entertained and flooded with RP opportunities. 5) Encouraging and being friendly to the community. Sounds simple right? But the amount of staff members who forget we’re dealing with each other over computers but there’s another adult on the other end who deserves to not be talked to like they’re a 11 year old. The amount of staff who come in with the kick the door down and ask questions later mentality is ridiculous and it actually leads to a lot of frustration, which in turn affects roleplay scenarios. Hard to roleplay a calm and collected character in a situation when an admins just come in, insulted you, and then made an active effort to tell you how from their personal life experiences, a human being wouldn’t react like that in this situation. A lot of admins here have taken it upon themselves to tell people how they can and can’t RP a human being. Now, what I’m saying here is exactly what I said in the first post - if you have an admin team who’s job is to ensure RP quality and server quality, why are we the community having to discuss how to improve what these people are volunteering to do? Shit flows down hill. If everything’s bad at the bottom, bet money it comes from issues at the top. I say volunteer loosely. I’m not sure how admins are reimbursed. That’s my constructive critism on this server and why the overall quality has dipped. The good players are leaving the building because they cannot be assed trying to get people who don’t care about their experiences on this server.

I didn’t say that. what I said was, this server caters to them. Not that by not RPing a criminal or an LEO that you are one. Dont put words in other peoples mouths in debates.

I've been fined on alts far too many times while going from the airport to the license station. Fun fact, I got pulled over by one cop - then another five minutes later, got in trouble twice for the same offense, ended up going to jail for it. Was kinda whack. Nevermind that I ran through several intersections, but still. Just make it a buyable item at this point - congrats you /sp'ed and drove through checkpoints. If we're gonna have the tests, make them actually test your ability and road knowledge as well - not just a checkpoint. Introduce a theory and a practical, and move it somewhere closer. Basically it just checks you understand the basic functions of a GTA game.

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if i dont see rafa rping a hooker again im going to be severely upset Good luck boys, I can't wait to see the antics 😂

🔥 when’s official boys??

☠️☠️ y’all comin hard with it. Keep this shit goin boys

Yes please. It’s an automatic weapon not a water pistol. idk why people think just because a guns an automatic the bullets don’t hurt as much lmao

Hi all, One of the reasons why these bikes have not been added serverside is because I haven't made the LOD's to the servers requirements. We tried with the Vicla especially, however I've paused these projects as I'm currently extremely busy in real life and with the way the community these bikes were created for has been treated by server admins, I haven't much had the desire to complete the projects. Another factor is that there are parts of creating LOD models I need assistance with, and there's currently no one capable of aiding me in that and online resources aren't answering the questions I have to produce the best quality of work I can. I'll probably resume it at a later date, however a lot of the bikes in this pack are still in WIP as I'm not fully satisfied with the end project and still have more I want to accomplish with them. Hopefully I'll get the motivation, but not likely to be any time soon. In the mean time, I'll continue to release them as replacement mods, but don't hold your breathe. But yes, I did try.

Once Upon A Time in Vinewood.

😂😂 I can’t. 10/10. I can hear this picture Great stuff comin out of here. Loving the content

Welcome to the party boys. Love to see it.