InOx Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 (edited) Simply put, it's boring and broken. Skorpions/TEC-9's/MAC-10's have 0 recoil in vehicles which just turns them into lasers. If you're on foot with any type of gun, even an AR, you'll get shredded in 0.2 seconds. The meta is harming gunplay on the server itself. Driveby's are great, especially for RP... but driveby's with 4 SMG's offer you no chance of merely wounding someone and driving on, you'll always laser them even if you're terrible at shooting. No one hops out anymore and even big faction conflicts boil down to who's car sees the other's first. The dev team stated that the recoil on SMG's in cars can't be fixed due to GTA restrictions so another solution is needed. +1 Edited January 1 by InOx 2 Link to comment
evil wicked soldier Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 4 minutes ago, Brink said: The core issue should be addressed, you'll remove the 4SMG drive by's and ARs will start being overused (probably), to even out the playing field between the defenders and attackers. Since the defenders will be able to hang out in balconies or interiors with ARs, so instead of the drive by meta, rifles might start becoming overused and it's going to become iraq. ngl id rather have people bounce out with 1 rifle and the rest pistols or smg mark2s than be 4 deep with mini smgs just sitting there and lasering everything they see iirc wasnt there a limit on how many rifles you can take on a hit anyways? at least you'd need to justify it really good, this was like last year though or year before, idk if they got rid of it add recoil or add a limit on how many smgs you can have in a vehicle, or just remove smgs from doing drivebys 😊😊😊 9 Link to comment
kane Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 (edited) I think shooting from a vehicle should be limited in a way, especially for automatic firing. People on this thread will act like they aren't using this for an advantage, but they are! They know that if they are shot in a vehicle, they won't drop any blood or casings. Not only that, but they won't recoil. This puts us legal roleplayers at a standstill because people just spam Drive-By's, and whenever it goes wrong for them they go spam reasons for a void. I agree sometimes a Drive-By is cool, but not for every situation. It takes a lot from others, guys. It makes it almost impossible to solve some murders. +1 Edited January 1 by kane? Link to comment
Brinkaveli Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 Just now, evil wicked soldier said: ngl id rather have people bounce out with 1 rifle and the rest pistols or smg mark2s than be 4 deep with mini smgs just sitting there and lasering everything they see iirc wasnt there a limit on how many rifles you can take on a hit anyways? at least you'd need to justify it really good, this was like last year though or year before, idk if they got rid of it add recoil or add a limit on how many smgs you can have in a vehicle, or just remove smgs from doing drivebys 😊😊😊 Then let's be real, if there are restrictions for the attacking side of how many AR's they can bring, and the defenders can sit with a few, will that encourage people to actually attack with the current RoE, or it'll boil down to people only playing defense (which is extremely boring), which usually makes the RP'ers inactive and the people that are more prone to like shooting are on. People will end up just defending. I don't think it'll solve anything, it's just going to cause a new problem, with wars being dragged out even further and both factions activity probably just plummeting. 1 Link to comment
parkin lot pimpin Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 thread's turned into a war between those who abuse the meta and those who get domed by it the recoil's not realistic so fix it 5 Link to comment
Helm Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 +1, limiting the amount of fully-auto weapons that can be used in a drive-by will be a good solution to a long-term problem that's been plaguing this server: power creep, and the high amount of full-auto weapons that're in the server already. Very disproportionate to the real-life ratio of full-auto vs. other firing modes. Link to comment
evil wicked soldier Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 4 minutes ago, Brink said: Then let's be real, if there are restrictions for the attacking side of how many AR's they can bring, and the defenders can sit with a few, will that encourage people to actually attack with the current RoE, or it'll boil down to people only playing defense (which is extremely boring), which usually makes the RP'ers inactive and the people that are more prone to like shooting are on. People will end up just defending. I don't think it'll solve anything, it's just going to cause a new problem, with wars being dragged out even further and both factions activity probably just plummeting. i mean, personally when longos had a bunch of wars, we didnt need to resort to interior rping. we were still outside everyday, im not sure why people should or would resort to interior roleplaying with their rifles or going to sleep with their rifles like they're the delta force. all im saying is, the recoil is broken. fix it. cant fix it? remove it. boo hoo, let these deathmatchers cry they cant driveby with an smg. they can use pistols??? like me??? 9 Link to comment
King of Idlewood Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 (edited) If you can't drive by with SMGs and are too scared or just don't want to walk up, just do it with pistols lol. You'll get less kills and may miss a few shots, so what? If the meta shifts so radically that people just start doing some other stupid shit, we can deal with it then. What we have now isn't good and we know that for a fact, so let's deal with this first. As an aside, isn't camping interiors with an AR waiting for an attack supposed to fall in the same rule as patrolling your turf with long weapons? Edited January 1 by King of Idlewood 1 Link to comment
Martyn Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 Good suggestion, I can get behind it until they fix the recoil for shooting from within a vehicle. Link to comment
Brinkaveli Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 Just now, evil wicked soldier said: i mean, personally when longos had a bunch of wars, we didnt need to resort to interior rping. we were still outside everyday, im not sure why people should or would resort to interior roleplaying with their rifles or going to sleep with their rifles like they're the delta force. all im saying is, the recoil is broken. fix it. cant fix it? remove it. boo hoo, let these deathmatchers cry they cant driveby with an smg. they can use pistols??? like me??? Longos had 10 guys on stand by on both sides of the road and a few on balconies, we both know this, not everybody is Longos n most of these dudes just go inactive, we was 15 deep during our active wars but the smaller facs will use that to they advantage 1 Link to comment
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