Shah of Persia

next time u lookin thru binoculars big brother washing...

I mean we have the Italian mafia, American Yakuza and Suey Sing. It's not bothering me. I don't think it should bother anybody.

We used to run a salon (hair and nails) and it was such a painful experience to get in anybody at all to roleplay. It just seems to me any concept that revolves around roleplaying is considered a "niche" concept. They never draw a lot of customers. The business script where you get 1K for somebody entering relieves the pain a bit. You open a store 9 out of 10 people that enter leave immediately without roleplaying at all. I don't think anything is going to change that. The only business concepts I think work are restaurants / takeouts, bars, strip clubs and nightclubs. I run a cinema now and very few people come. But that's okay. The few people that do come are often very enthusiastic and say it actually feels like going to the movies. Yesterday two people asked for a refund because they came an hour early and said the service sucked because they had to wait too long, lol. I also did tarot readings once (house calls) and while most of the time I got trollish phone calls, it was some of the best RP I had because you actually talked about character development and I met characters I would have never met otherwise. But I don't think a lot of people know how to roleplay in such a situation. People need to get rid of the idea that unique ideas get rewarded because they rarely are. You need to enjoy what you're doing and be flexible in terms of expectations. Get ready to lower them. New and interesting concepts are often very solitary and highly appreciated by a very few. But high concept roleplay often draws a few rare likeminded people. It's just very sour when you "wait" weeks to open your business, only for it to sort of result in an anti-climax. But it's not any different than real-life. That's why I think the process should be fast-tracked. "Average Joe places" aren't just rare. Average Joes in general are rare. The way I see it, what OP is asking for is a place to portray their character / concept. When the majority of people on this server aren't looking to portray anything at all. They're just looking to go to a place and spend time. When you go to a club, most people aren't really engaging with each other. They just stand around like they're socializing in WoW's main city, listen to some music, talk a bit on Discord or in /f. There's not a lot of lines flying around, and it's often incoherent. It's just how people play the game. I don't think you're even going to change that. Going to a place with the expectation of having some rich roleplay is just very hit or miss. "Visiting businesses" is often not really part of these types of characters' roleplay routine. So the problem partially lies with the restrictions people put on themselves. When I roleplay a civi, we often "get food" at whatever business is open because it's easy to create roleplay around. Visiting a salon would really be something else. But when I roleplay on my criminal character, I don't care all that much about "getting food".

This is quite standard on WoW RP private servers but then you also needed a place to put item stores.

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Extremely unfortunate...

This really does not align with my experiences at all.

Businesses don't last not because there's no randos who want to work at your place lol. They don't last because there's a very limited amount of concepts that draw customers. People go in with high expectations. You need to be aware of this when opening a business. It's not so different from opening a faction. You don't open a faction without members either, or a faction that is not self-sustainable.

100% this. People go over this fact too easily, and I really don't agree with Wutah and Nervous wanting to avoid having to punish players. Such an apparantly enormous amount of players participating in looting is a sympthom, not a problem in and of itself. GTAW is a text-based roleplay server surrounded by voice RP and light RP servers. Players who engage in looting need to be made aware it is not acceptable, and if they don't want to play "our game" they need to go. However, imo in game design if you don't want something to be done at all, then remove the option. I think Nervous' suggestion is fine, but people seem to have a problem with the word "broken".

Absolutely not. The starter money gives so much freedom to make a new character and get right into roleplaying. It allows people to not give a shit about money and just ROLEPLAY. If you think the economy sucks or that there's too many rich people, it is not something you can eradicate because it is how these people play the game. And I don't care.

Haha when you make an app you need to write three paragraphs on how your character got a degree in flipping burgers and making a BLT sandwich but then people do this.

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