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  1. I think that still wouldn't be allowed because eventually they would turn into Nortenos which is a restricted concept on the server so I think it would probably get shutdown.
  2. What have I not acknowledged I have simply been asking questions about why you feel this way? What other servers are you talking about on rage you have mentioned LSRP which I am guessing you are talking about their samp server on GTA San Andreas I am talking about GTA 5 which are two different games and why should people not be able to roleplay Nortenos because of something that happened on a different game and on a different server? What do you mean Surenos and Nortenos rarely come into contact the Surenos from Southern California might not but the Surenos from Central California and Northern California do. What Norteno factions act like Surenos and wear red where are these factions you are talking about? I have only seen one Norteno faction on GTA world and they got shutdown that day I have also seen a Norteno inmate being shown in character stories but it did not continue because of the faction getting denied. Last question do you believe in giving Nortenos a shot on this server or no because of what you say has happened on other servers and because you think players lack knowledge?
  3. Are you talking about Clanton when you mention a Sureno gang that bangs 14? Clanton does not bang 14 because they do not get along with other Sureno gangs they bang 14 because that was the street name first it was Clanton street then it later got changed to 14th street or 14th place so they added the number that has nothing to do with not getting along with other sureno gangs and some red rag surenos have existed before Nortenos were even a thing. There is nothing to really justify it is highly unlikely and unrealistic for a Norteno to drive down south to LA to shoot at a Sureno and the only time they would really see each other in California is if they were an upstater or if they were incarcerated. As you said in the quote above that not enough people actually understand what being a Norteno is about how do you know that? What does roleplaying red rag Surenos have to do with Nortenos other then wearing the same color? And are you saying that Nortenos and Surenos are the same but Nortenos just wear red or are you saying people are just going to roleplay Nortenos that way?
  4. Well said but you are mainly talking about the potrayal of the NF I am talking about the portrayal of Nortenos. When did I assume that people understood the NF you said that Nortenos would not be portrayed properly and I ask how do you know that? I agree with most of the things you have said about the NF being portrayed on the server but that is not what I was talking about I am talking about Nortenos how do you know that they would not be portrayed properly if they have never been given a shot?
  5. I understand what you're saying but that can be applied to really any faction with the deathmatching thing. And what do you mean by inconsistencies with players knowledge on the concept they have never been done on the server so are you assuming that? Also how would Bulldogs be any different that same argument you are using against Nortenos can be applied to Bulldogs and many other factions.
  6. When you say Alamo Sea area are you talking about Sandy Shores and I think the Bulldogs might still be allowed not too sure though and how far up north are you talking like where would you draw the line?
  7. I would like to see both Nortenos and Surenos in Blaine there are a lot of surenos out in Bakersfield and some other areas around there I think it would be pretty cool to see both groups out there it would bring something new.
  8. I don't think roleplaying Bulldogs would really make a difference they are former Nortenos and used to be called F-14 they also go at it with Surenos, Nortenos, other local gangs, and go at it with other Bulldog sets on the streets also the jail argument being applied against Nortenos can be used against the Bulldogs because currently there is no prison and when it comes to what gang stretches more down south on the map the Nortenos do the Bulldogs are mainly in Fresno and some surrounding areas but the Nortenos go a bit farther more south than the Bulldogs like the Nortenos in Delano which is in Kern County and there is evidence to support their existence there they are rumored to be in Bakersfield which is also in Kern County but I don't have much evidence to support Nortenos currently existing there. When it comes to sny gangs from what I know they are not banned and that is why I did not really try to bring them up here and what do you mean by tax free sureno set are you talking about latino gangs that don't fall under the sureno umbrella like some Maravilla sets the Opal Street locos and 5th and Hill gang or are you talking about something else?
  9. I haven't really heard anything about Nortenos rolling with the others car while locked up so I don't think so
  10. I see that you have mentioned something like this earlier when it comes to jail but what other spots would you be talking about?
  11. Not trying to go against IFM or the rules or anything but I am just curious why Nortenos are not allowed on the server I understand why they should not be allowed to be roleplayed in Los Santos County but why they are not allowed to be roleplayed in Blaine county or in the server is what confuses me I have seen Bulldogs on this server and they are in Fresno and some surroundings areas but there are Norteno gangs that get more down south then the Bulldogs like the Nortenos in Delano now Nortenos are rumored to be in Bakersfield which I can't really support their existence there but there are multiple Norteno sets in Delano which is pretty close to Bakersfield now I understand the unrealistic conflict thing like a Norteno driving all the way down south to go hunt a Sureno is not likely at all and is very unrealistic and same for the other way around but there are tons of upstate Sureno gangs and not just Surenos but many other gangs that Nortenos go at it with and I don't think faction rp is all about conflict with other factions though it does play a large role but all I am asking is why they are not allowed I think a little Norteno faction out in Grapeseed if portrayed correctly would be pretty cool I mean if Bulldogs roleplayed up there why not Nortenos I just want to know the reasoning and if they will ever be allowed on this server please consider some of the things that I have said and I would like to hear some of your thoughts on this topic.
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