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I'm not here to biggy pack on a report that has nothing to do with me, but since you brought it up, Padraig has been pretty clear as to why this argument has no substance, citing that they used somebody to gain intel and confirm it was in fact an illegal backroom game. Again, this isn't against the rules. To be honest, second-glancing this thread from top-to-bottom, it appears to me that you're using the "rule clarification" agenda to cover up the fact that you're really trying to spite Martorano as a faction and those who robbed you, given the report is the first thing you bring up on the thread. This sub-forum shouldn't be an open social hub to discuss on-going reports, but rather the rules. If you'd like to have a real conversation in regards to rule, then stop using on-going as well as closed reports that undoubtedly require a level of context before you use them as reference. Utilizing an on-going report with no verdict as ammunition holds no weight in a discussion like this until it has been resolved.

The rules only state that you cannot use the ad system to bait victims. Again, in this case, if you're promoting illegal poker games via the ad system, you're baiting yourself; you are the victim. The attacking party didn't break any rules whatsoever according to the rulebook, they took advantage of someone being stupid. I'm not blaming you for the wording of this rule, but I am suggesting that it should be common sense if you're actively roleplaying a criminal. An administrator should immediately be able to recognize what cites an illegal ad and shut down whatever activity is taking place by the ad poster. If they, the administrators themselves cannot distinguish this? Then yeah, that's a bigger problem than somebody not being able to adhere to a decent level of character portrayal.

Posting an advertisement promoting an illegal poker game is the sheer equivalant of publicly announcing via the ad system the address of a house party, which also happens to be a hub for guns and drugs, and then gasping for air in shock when somebody inevitably robs it. I understand why it may require a level of clarification, but in my humble opinion I think it honestly should chalk down to common sense. If criminal A is actively roleplaying above the law and uses legal outlets to promote illicit activities, and then gets upset on an OOC level when criminal B inevitably takes advantage of criminal A's lack of underworld intelligence, then I'm sorry but I think "criminal" A needs to reevaluate his choice of roleplay. I don't think there should be any need for clarification. If you post an ad for an illegal poker game, then you've played (baited) yourself.

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