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Personally TDP, I think you're over thinking this to an extent. People's attributes should be able to be whatever it needs to be to fit their character demographic, gang tattoos aren't always black and white these days either. Gangs hide away affiliations more and more each day or they get cryptic with it. Take the 👄 on Surenos, for a while it was just "lips" and threw off potential police attention & another example is my Faction that I'm currently leading, IRL TRG hide affiliations and wear it on rags/clothing instead, not everything is as crystal clear as you might think. So /attributes can be whatever that player feels the information you need to know is, some can be super descriptive and some can be super discreet, it fits their demographic and their roleplay. Adding a rule to type out more stuff in /attributes is only gonna throw people off, we're a heavy roleplay server but there's limits.

Get it boys, please make it last!

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Like you never left.

💖 glooks bro

> (TRG) named "Mizzy" It's Miggy fool, looks good.

yoooo Hoovers! Not seen this before!

You're both blindly missing the point and playing the victim card that fits your narrative rather than responding to the whole idea. It's funny how I said both sides require administration intervention and yet only the legal wide was saying "Absolutely not!". I fail to see where I said roll over and take the loss everytime you're involved in being targeted in the illegal situation that has arisen upon your character. If you have time to react then yes, react as so, why wouldnt you? To not be able to react would fall under the powergaming rules. Instead of taking what I said as "waa waa I can't use my PF gun, its illegal roleplayers and crime stats faults" actually see the point itself and read the whole post itself rather than slotting yourself in some false narrative that hasn't been painted. This divide between legal and illegal roleplayers is also a huge factor towards the mentality behind the crime itself. On one hand illegal roleplayers will be quick to react as legal roleplayers pull their PF firearms and have their own views. And on the other hand legal roleplayers feel they're being targeted often enough to constitute it and both sides are valid. The divide itself between you both will always play a part. The fact you jumped on one point aside the multiple states proved this. Also hypocritical targeting a solo point myself but I'd expect you to be shitting yourself personally, paranoia, fear, mate I wouldnt step out the fucking house if that happened to me but ultimately like I said in my first post you glossed over, it's a game at the end of the day and everyone wants the fun aspects which is largely in part of statistics and situations you've described.

Problem is everyone wants to be top dog and be the dominant factor in the illegal section be it from street gangs to OCGs to further illegal organisations and barely anyone is willing to back down and politick it up with the opposition. I've had some good interactions with politics (s/o @heathen) but no one wants to be the one to back down to another faction for two reasons: Faction 1 won't cease the beef with Faction 2 in the end out of boredom or resort to "realistic beef" which ends in shooting again. Or being clowned on an OOC scale, which sounds pathetic itself but everyone wants to be the shining example of Faction development and backing down is seen as "Ahah no shooters waa waa". Something on FM side should be done, but its ultimately what. End of the day it is a game and falls down to the fun aspect and driving fast cars, shooting and so on fill that void, people say play GTAO for that but GTAO doesnt have the same consequences or vibe that RP servers have so ultimately its pointless to suggest that. Also legal roleplayers there is a lot of you who do roleplay the fear correctly and ultimately will take a loss but you're a small amount in the huge sea that unfortunately will pull their gun at the first sight of a robbery, fight etc etc. Which also needs tackling on an Administrative side.

Transparency is great, please keep up these kinds of threads. It's nice to see some sort of stance being taken about OOC Circles which we all know exist.

One of the best black factions, keep it up guys