Your thoughts on IC Consequences?

[Barbary]

There's too many OOC ways to get out of player or character screw ups.

 

Mis-ID'd someone and attacked them, but you realize after the fact they're the wrong guy? Void.

 

Get put in jail for a long period of time after you get caught lacking? Name change.

 

Pick a fight you can't win and get taken down for it? PK.

 

People want to win. They keep rolling around acting like this is some contest where they can somehow end up as King of Shit Mountain. You want consequences to start mattering, you need to develop and enforce a server culture where people take their failures on the chin and roll with it instead of looking for a way to rules lawyer their way out.

[Bigg]

admins intervene way too much

[CaffeineHigh]

11 hours ago, Barbary said:

There's too many OOC ways to get out of player or character screw ups.

 

Mis-ID'd someone and attacked them, but you realize after the fact they're the wrong guy? Void.

 

Get put in jail for a long period of time after you get caught lacking? Name change.

 

Pick a fight you can't win and get taken down for it? PK.

 

People want to win. They keep rolling around acting like this is some contest where they can somehow end up as King of Shit Mountain. You want consequences to start mattering, you need to develop and enforce a server culture where people take their failures on the chin and roll with it instead of looking for a way to rules lawyer their way out.

This. Exactly this.

If a player gets life in prison, then so be it. But if they get put in there for a long time, don't allow them to NC.
Also, WIPE 65% OF ALL ASSETS UPON NAME CHANGING.

Now, player kills I can understand, but if you're performing a CK that gets voided because you accidentally struck a bystander, you need to report the admin imho.

[Cocaine Capital]

IC consequences? What’s that. Nah dude let’s just report for a void and live in perfect bliss. 

[Barbary]

Gonna add something on from a video I saw a few hours ago. A deputy rolled around the corner in his car, and he stumbled upon an ongoing robbery. Two robbers putting three people against a wall and running their pockets. Both the suspects were armed. You'd think the smart thing to do is to run like hell, maybe fire a shot or two at the Deputy's car to keep him pinned. Maybe try to use your robbery victims as leverage.

 

No. They both charged the car and magdumped the guy through his windshield.

 

You wanna know why? Because even if they lost that fight, the worst thing that would've happened to them is a PK. But trying to put someone in the dirt is the path of least resistance on this server, because if they did try to run then there was a chance they could've been caught. Then sent to jail. And risking a day in jail is so much worse than risking a PK, right fellas?

 

I'm gonna turn into the Goddamn Joker.