ZaE
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4 minutes ago, SaintBatemanofWallStreet said:
Well if he's happy with it, I doubt he needs you making all these excuses on his behalf. Because whether you think you are or aren't - you are.
And if he's happy with the character getting caught, then he should probably understand that a quadruple murder is more than likely a death sentence in most states.
Just because he’s happy with it doesn’t mean he shouldn’t weed out the wrongs and rights of the scenario. He and the rest of our faction thinks the that if he gets the death penalty itll just be used as a excuse to ck any illegal character police dont like. which this thread has only fueled into with that belief.
ill say it again;
Demaine Jopp knows and understands the consequences of his actions, he enjoys them and was looking forward to making his character a black car affiliate, he doesnt even mind being CKed so long as the cops that are the base of the case CK too. Why should the faction have to run into the three cops that got killed by Demaine Jopp again? Thats puts a brick on the roleplay and makes it less tasteful
this thread has been made to shed light on something that could be used problematicly against ALL illegal roleplayers.
hope that sheds some
light for you all
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3 minutes ago, Airwalk said:
dont just edit your post after the fact and try being slick by insulting me, not cool
I didnt edit anything regarding what you call “insults”. I left my impairment comment right there because it could genuinely be the reason you didnt see the 1000 other posts on this thread saying that Demaine likes the RP, liked being caught, has coopertaed and roleplayed with whomever asked and hasnt stalled or stopped not once. I dont understand how its hard for some of yall to understand?
it wasnt meant to be rude rather trying to find the answer to why you cant understand a simple point thats been repeated multiple times and would rather jump at any attempt to derail this into talking about his outfit and the gun he had, thats not about this. This is a discussion about whether this is right or not and i would argue the answer has been given and Demaine is working on the proper steps to have this handled behind closed doors, which is how the entire faction has been operating in terms of OOC prescence
ill say it again;
Demaine Jopp likes this ending to the character. He just wants it to be done fairly.
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1 minute ago, Airwalk said:
so mods are the reason he couldn't change his outfit...?
Perhaps you have a reading impairment. He DID have another outfit on but put that one on for the benefit of looking humane in peoples screens. Thats his only server side outfit and once again, the moment he was on cops were spinning around…he wasnt gonna leave the block.
once again tho, ur fighting a ghost and having a discussion that doesnt need to be had.
Demaine Jopp wants life in prison either way, and would also enjoy the rp behind the death penalty if it was proceeded with fairly
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1 minute ago, SaintBatemanofWallStreet said:
That's risk versus reward baby. And this time the risk won.
I dont think you’ve read that he doesnt care that he was caught 😂 the people acting like he wants to be freed are the uninformed, such as urself.
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8 minutes ago, Airwalk said:
i dont know, but wearing the exact same clothes and carrying the pistol that you just used to murder 4 police officers on you at the time of getting arrested doesn't exactly inspire confidence and say "yeah, i tried"
He just got back on the server when he was on, he actually did wear a new outfit for a bit but then changed to serverside mods because some members dont got our mods and wanted to take screens and he only has one weapon due to the lack of guns the entire server receives 😄 good to know the judge handling the case also shares the same front face value views.
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6 minutes ago, 415 Man said:
Wrong. I have seen much more than the stuff in the court case. Those comments were made because they are a true and accurate representation.
If you arent an admin or in his faction? You have no direct knowledge of how, what, or who his character is. You are just going off of one side (whomever you gained information from) and sticking to it. Truly a “source trust me bro” scenario.
Demaine didn’t do any attscks against enemy factions until like last week or the week before, hes only ever played defense on the block and defended himself 🤷🏽♂️ not sure how hes a serial cop killer for shooting the cops shooting him in previous scenarios.
On top of that, Demaine has has good interactions with police before and is one of the members in Brims that actually values roleplay and reading one of his posts makes that clear. Why are you making assumptions for a dude you never met?
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11 minutes ago, 415 Man said:
Yet it is. Look at the court case on the forums for yourself. There is hard evidence which links him to multiple homicides. This included video footage of him executing four police officers. That is completely justifiable for the chance that he is found guilty and given the death penalty. Just because it has been approved does not mean it has to happen, it is simply an option that is in place.
Maybe you need to read but…he wants the death penalty? Just wants fairness if given it. You know nothing about his character and are going off of a court case and police report made by the same people that are out to get Demaine 🤷🏽♂️ and even if that isnt the case LFM hasnt given good comment, closure or explaination, just allowed peoples speculation to grow and grow. The only person that has provided us any help during this was @Nora.
pistols can be “scrolled” you dont need roleplay to pull one one out or put it away. You accused Demaine off attempting to get them to shoot a unsrmed suspect when all he was doing was running. Where is all of your accusations coming from? Did Demaine tell you that himself?
you insulted somebodies entire character based off of one court case? Seems pretty bias.
anybody that thinks demaine should hold a ck and the cops shouldnt clearly doesnt have the gtaworld spirit of fairness
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11 minutes ago, 415 Man said:
The fact is, Demaine Jopp was a serial cop killer (and has killed cops on multiple occasions, not just the one he is being prosecuted for in this court case). It's a poorly portrayed character,
??? Who is bro???
😂 @Quincy-
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1 minute ago, rainbowlarva said:
If four illegal players ran in to try and bag one guy, and all got wasted, the argument would be entirely different right now
They wouldve been shot while scouting 😂
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7 minutes ago, rainbowlarva said:
This isn't Iraq, and it's not an autonomous zone or The Zone from Stalker, it's just gang turf. Acting like it's an extremely foreign concept for cops to be there and act on gun violence is pretty stupid. LEOs aren't the ones that are deciding on this dudes CK anyways, cops have zero say in that regard - it's the DA's Office, Courts, and Senators that decided to re-publish the death penalty who setup that decision. The cops shouldn't even be in the argument, especially when you consider that their ruleset requires them to react to felony crimes or be liable for punishment on character portrayal concerns
I wasn't there so I don't know the circumstances, it was just poor wording. I never disagreed with the death penalty being stupid and against the spirit of the server, but I do believe that the way to go about resolving it is by CK'ing characters that are just responding to the scene, characters that have no hand in making decisions on the death penalty CK at that
Did you know 1/4 of the cops agrees to CK? Its crazy how at least one agrees they should be CKed.
No. This isnt Iraq. But its a gang territory that is known to be dangerous to police (HPB has literally had a era of “no cops in bhamberlain” which was heavily active last year due to police being on Yorell Kelly’s nuts).
a few months ago over 40 people murdered Cody Mora right down the street at a function with almost every mexican and black factions there. Where is the fear from these cops? MS-13, HPB, R20s, Bloodstone Villains, etc. all are on this one street and two of those factions are in active heavy gang injunction itching levels of tension.
You all are missing the point;Want the death penalty? Have the cops Demaine murdered character-kill. Because if not? It’s not fair.
Dont wanna CK the cops? Then give Demaine life imprisonment. Since when has the standard and spirit of the server been one sided? It’s supposed to be a fair system when CKs are brought up.
This entire scenario should show the community how the DA intends to use the system and warrant them to go against it. I think the death penalty should be removed entirely 🤷🏽♂️
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3 minutes ago, Rino said:
Literally, if the Death Penalty was taken off the table, he'd just be resuming his lifer roleplay as per usual like nothing happened.And maybe people would care about the DP. Doing it for player-kills adds little to no weight.
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5 minutes ago, rainbowlarva said:
Why are LEOs the ones that have to be CKed over Demaine Jopps decision to stop caring about his life and start executing cops? LEOs aren't even the ones that make the decision on his CK, the people behind reimplementing the death penalty and the DA's pushing for the CK are the ones that do that - LEOs have no hand in what happens beyond just arresting the guy. If criminal players really want to do the bonehead CK for CK thing, then they're not even targeting the right people for it. I think that's reason enough that the whole CK for CK idea shouldn't be considered
Regardless, I didn't say any of what you replied to me with. My original post makes no mention about fear rp, being outnumbered or whatever. Obviously fear roleplay rules apply to cops, I never said it didn't, so I genuinely do not know what you're trying to argue to me. I even posted that I don't think the death penalty should even exist on the server, because it's unfair to the illegal players lol
Then give him life. CK for CK or nothing but 9999 days. They walked into his turf with a suicidal mindset for a gun…something they see every day in the city. They could’ve opened an investigation and raided his properties or something, literally so many more options besides running yourself into a box trap (after already failing) and asking to get shot. They knew there was loads of members. A year ago this wouldnt have even been an argument, shit if some people made this post it wouldn’t be an argument but we know how shit goes.
If people are using the death penalty for players kills and somehow a person in LFM approves it? it needs to be severely investigated in who approved this and who even approved the system. Ive never in my life seen a man cked because of 4 pks, 1 of which he didnt kill. Mind you there was already a CK application on Demaine Jopp by police so that puts the nail in the coffin that they just wanted to kill another character they dont like.
Whats the point of the death penalty if there is no weight to it? A mallrat can get the death penalty if they player kill 4 people.-
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Just now, Rino said:
I think all the extra illegal-legal debate is extremely corny and a tired conversation that has been going in circles for literal years at this point which will see no end for obvious reasons. The only thing that matters here is holding everyone to the same standard now and going forward. If Jopp is forced to lose his character, so should they. That's really the bottom line.
If this isnt the facts though. Anybody that dug into this situation knows Demaine likes the roleplay but just wants it to be kept fair, and now just in the chase of fairness has to report 4 cops, potentially 2 admins and still lose his character to the death penalty because the legal side wants to get a kick off using it for the first time in 2 ooc years
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Keep it up my angelic niggas.
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Always fire from my neighbors
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27 minutes ago, roleplayer said:
In your previous reply, you pretty much said that some random cops chasing a guy with a gun, in a gang infested neighborhood, clearly outnumbered, knowing that at least one other suspect was about to get a gun, have exercised a degree of caution high enough to not justify their CK.
Yet you and others confirmed that it's common knowledge that if you do some stupid shit it can lead to a CK. So I'm confused, what other conditions have to be met before the cops in a situation like this are held to the same standard as Demaine Jopp? Isn't this textbook "lack of fear"?
On a side note:In this situation, the cops made the decision to go for a push and try to take down Demaine Jopp.
Let's not act like they magically got pulled into a shootout against their will.
Oh, don’t you know? He’s a ILLEGAL roleplayer. He doesnt get common courtesy and his faction doesnt deserve any roleplay!
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3 minutes ago, PeopleKind said:
LFM will investigate & determine the right outcome. Ranting on a forum thread solves nothing.
Edited just now by PeopleKind
We wish this was an option we felt comfortable but when targetting has happened in our eyes behind the scenes (Quincy has doven into that) we have no faith in that team but from what i know he is gonna report all the cops involved either way and pray its handled with no bias.
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12 hours ago, ZaE said:
And to add context to this, we were all otuside of the block prior to this and they had already tried to get Demaine Jopp and failed this night. (https://gyazo.com/b0db6dd5b92a0a2cb9ef170435801def) and this was MINUTES prior. Where is the fear in knowing these criminals now know you're plan? I mean they were driving around our block for my whole 6 minutes clip just waiting and contemplating until they failed and moved to the back (where they are in this clip)
You could also argue and ask what the fuck Jack Laguna and Jorge are doing pulling up with one SUV to a bunch of gang members...putting us on edge already. (This is in the gyazo link above)
I would also like to add context on how many people were on the block cause it was a very large number that should've warranted them showing a little bit of fear.
This was when I did /fonline just moments before. There was also people in cars and some inside the plex and surrounding area of the turf since we don't put locals in the faction script. They ran with only three police into a gang infested area for one man with a gun when they could've just pulled him over a few days later and avoided all the endangerment, but it seems they were itching to get him. Not to add that they couldn't handle their first failure so much that they were plotting in the back until we all realized it, ultimately Demaine came back out cause we didn't know who they were after and everybody said the block was safe, on top of that Demaine didn't expect nor did any of us that the police would be in the back until we were informed.
(A bit more context, Demaine doesn't even recall ever having his weapon out and we believe that the police mistook him for Marcel Harris but we didn't care to argue it and just proceeded IC, which is what we want at the end of the as well. This should've never been a big hassle.)
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6 minutes ago, Fanden said:
It's not just that he killed cops, is it? Was it not a planned ambush? That's what it looked like in the video. Cops shoot in situations like that because they have to, they didn't shoot first. Crims shoot because they feel like it.
It was not an ambush.
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13 minutes ago, DeSync said:
And to add context to this, we were all otuside of the block prior to this and they had already tried to get Demaine Jopp and failed this night. (https://gyazo.com/b0db6dd5b92a0a2cb9ef170435801def) and this was MINUTES prior. Where is the fear in knowing these criminals now know you're plan? I mean they were driving around our block for my whole 6 minutes clip just waiting and contemplating until they failed and moved to the back (where they are in this clip)
You could also argue and ask what the fuck Jack Laguna and Jorge are doing pulling up with one SUV to a bunch of gang members...putting us on edge already. (This is in the gyazo link above)
I would also like to add context on how many people were on the block cause it was a very large number that should've warranted them showing a little bit of fear.
This was when I did /fonline just moments before. There was also people in cars and some inside the plex and surrounding area of the turf since we don't put locals in the faction script. They ran with only three police into a gang infested area for one man with a gun when they could've just pulled him over a few days later and avoided all the endangerment, but it seems they were itching to get him. Not to add that they couldn't handle their first failure so much that they were plotting in the back until we all realized it, ultimately Demaine came back out cause we didn't know who they were after and everybody said the block was safe, on top of that Demaine didn't expect nor did any of us that the police would be in the back until we were informed.
(A bit more context, Demaine doesn't even recall ever having his weapon out and we believe that the police mistook him for Marcel Harris but we didn't care to argue it and just proceeded IC, which is what we want at the end of the as well. This should've never been a big hassle.)
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3 minutes ago, godsavage said:
But in this situation, the cops went above and beyond to act like heroes in the hood. Where's the scrutiny for that?
Ran into a group that they knowingly knew was at least "of six" (as stated by a cop, but it was actually more) all because of a call for ONE person with a gun out. In the same area that houses two gangs that these faction's aren't unfamiliar in interacting with. These are gang INFESTED areas, as stated by @Smurf
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11 minutes ago, prison isnt bad said:
not to be an asshole but he got charged for four different capital murders... he deserved the death penalty.
i just believe that it should be a voluntary thing, people shouldnt be forced off to ck as some may want to keep the character to roleplay in prison. but yes, if you want to take the death penalty, you should be able to do so - and in this case, makes sense.
He isn't mad at the death penalty he's mad that the cops aren't held at CKs too.
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Why (or should) can the death penalty be handed to a character that PLAYER-KILLED Officers?
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Posted · Edited by ZaE
Im not arguing with you cause you haven’t read a single thing 😂
Somebody lock this thread 💀💀