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11 minutes ago, Jerm124 said:
I was a PO1 I had some issues with people in the faction as well OOCLY, that might also be a factor. Not to mention. I don't log in and wait. I actively LOOK but everyone is busy whispering like they have codes to the USA's Nuke storage in groups.. I get ignored despite using /to and its just overly frustrating. People often stick to their clique... just because they know them on a personal level. And I was inactive because I had a new work schedule that didn't line up with FTO's that were always on at the time.
Well, that's how it be. For better or for worse, your P1 phase is sort of meant to be a hassle as a means to make sure those who endure it are the people who actually want to be there. I don't know when the last time was you were in it, but I know as it is now, the current field training team often goes to great lengths to accomodate people. The only people who really get the shit end of the stick are the australians or those in +12 ish timezones.
Everybody unanimously agreed, being a P1 sucks, but there's always ways around it to make it fun. As for the being ignored part, you're coming into a group of people who mostly all know eachother for an extended period already. You're the new guy, you're supposed to be the one making contact, showing initiative, putting yourself out there. You've got something to prove, they don't 😛 That's the gist of it.
Getting to know a few P2's and rolling with them during times FTO's arent around is a good start, being on good terms with other P1's also helps. But it comes down to just, surviving untill the bell rings & you get bumped up to P2. When you get the liberty to do what you want.
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2 hours ago, Jerm124 said:
Like I''ve joined LSPD enjoyed it for a bit then got terminated mostly for inactivity as I had a busy schedule I also didn't like that as it was filled with OOC toxicity.. (There was always some BS with people in the faction) (Because God forbid you defend yourself against someone being an ASSHOLE). I still have yet to join a crime faction because I overly feel like it's going to be the same thing with people, so I refrain from attempting to join one but I will possibly give it another try. Before writing this post I literally hopped on GTAW not too long ago. Stared at my screen for like 5 minutes then got off because there was nothing open of interest...
LSPD's a big faction, 220 ish people give or take. You aren't gonna be friends with all of em. Just how it be. You'll have assholes everywhere you go.
If you joined it, and then got terminated for inactivity then that tells me you joined, and then lacked the motivation to forge ahead with it. Were you on probation when you got booted? Or did you manage to get past that and get bumped up to P2? There's a big, big difference. If you got booted as a P1 for inactivity, then you've experienced maybe 1/4th of the totality the faction has to offer, and you never experienced the freedom to actually roleplay the way you want to without having someone tailing you around with a clipboard, recording your every move.
Reinstate, hit P2, find an area of police RP that tickles your pickle and off you go.
Or do what you suggested next, find an avenue of crim RP you enjoy, wether that's OC, or street gangs, racist baldies, crotch massager clubs, you name it.
Seems to me your lack of motivation stems from not being able to find something you actually like doing, cause logging in and waiting for stuff to come to you is something someone does when he or she has zero ambition.
Find something you'd like to do yourself, and do it.
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Yea, dude explained it already, meant to fool security or the likes to get you into places where otherwise you'd be barred.
Was never meant to fool law, and they'll quickly debunk those. At best buys you a bit of extra time to think & plan before they get wise.
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12 hours ago, chocomint said:
without people reaching out to get what they wanted in-gqme this update would have not been possible
I've done 10% of the work, the community did 90% of it just by providing clothes!
You to thank for the capybara's?
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31 minutes ago, The Plug said:
I just don’t want anymore draconian rules like having to get admin permission to use a vehicle for a robbery.
While I'm sympathetic, it was from my own opinion necessary as a blanket solution.
Whilst you yourself are probably one of the more upstanding people out there, for every you, There's about 25-50 shitters who just use masks as a shield to hide behind so they can break rules when there's little to no admin oversight available. Mind you a shit choice, as mask ID's are logged and are easily backtracked. Funny doe how ppl think they're invincible behind them.
I'm pretty sure the reply from management or the upper echelons of the admin team was "The no use car for robbery" rule was a blanket approach to an accute problem, as long as that problem remains, so does that rule. You want it removed, start banding together with others in getting these shitters yeeted so that it no longer has to be a blanket rule.
I'll call it for the masks aswell. It'll reach a certain point, if it hasn't already where they'll go "Okay, nope. Enough is enough". And do the same for the masks, untill it improves, if ever.
I'd much rather have it be an IC ruling, brought forward like what we're doing for the shit tier driving (Despite it already being watered down significantly) and you'll see a noticeable effect. But even that runs into the same problem as before, that IFM or LFM have to sign off on it. And chances of either or both signing off on that to become an IC rule I don't forsee happening.
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2 hours ago, DLimit said:
People don't RP fear. People can simply PK or NC to avoid consequences, which has been the case for years.
This.
Zero consequences besides "Oh no, I lost my shit I had on me.".
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Speed radars who give out tickets would work, except they'll just screw the plates off (Which you can ingame)
Broke a new record last night, a buffalo STX going down rockford at a staggering 160 plus. Good luck lol.
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For the past 2-3 days, all your character has done is deliberately keep his buffalo uninsured so it'd prompt people to pull you over, you then proceed to evade at break neck speeds. I have atleast one instance where I caught you together with Felipe Luna who was your racing budy last night going 160~ miles per hour down south rockford. This was about 15-20 minutes before your crash into me. Which was infact high speed, cause the momentum catapulted you from south rockford to halfway down cougar. You don't get that much momentum from a 40 mph crash.
This isn't the first time neither. You were caught the day before yesterday aswell in a similar situation where you also wiped out, and proceeded to drive off. According to another officer who foreshadowed you doing the exact same thing here, which you did. Hence the "As you usually do". You were in pursuits with the LSPD a total of 3-4 times yesterday alone, where you also wiped out somewhere along the line. And did the exact same thing.
45 seconds after you struck me, the first unit shows up, who calls in the others in the area. 1 minute and 20 seconds later, when they make a move on your car, you suddenly peel off. I'm curious exactly to what extend you actually roleplayed, as when I asked back to the people who were there with you, the only thing I got back was that line that tyler showed me.
I have zero issues with you driving the most broken car in the game currently, what I do have issues with is you repeatedly breaking the rules when you get dealt a bad hand.
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Date and Time of incident: 23:43 - 12/03/2024
Names of witnesses (if applicable): Tyler Razi, Frank Schiltz, whole PD team that was on scene when he didn't roleplay his injuries.
Your ingame name: Leon Beckett.
Overall Explanation (250 word limit) : Several times throughout the night, Francisco has been involved in a number of high speed evasions from law enforcement. Deliberately not insuring his car to prompt pull overs, and then evades from police in his modified buffalo STX that no police car can beat.
That aside, I was trying to track him down, when I spotted an identical buffalo pass infront of me. When I go in to have a better luck, Francisco T-bones me. I roleplay my injuries properly, get emergency medical treatment, taken to the hospital and undergo treatment for collapsed lung & concussion, and all francisco does is:
Sherald took my ingame report, and verified the mask name to be infact, Francisco Guirnocho.
After evading police following this lack of RP, he proceeded to log off within the 30 minutes of evading. As he usually does.
Accusation 1 (50 words): Failure to roleplay a crash & subsequent injuries properly, logging to avoid police as I checked if he was still online before I got hauled off to PHMC and he was no longer ingame.
Reported Player(s) Who Broke it: Francisco Guirnocho
Reported Players(s) Faction (if any): N/A
Evidence:
Video of the crash: https://streamable.com/wknuce
Video of francisco driving off with the above mentioned "Roleplay". When his car should've been totalled: https://streamable.com/3st24r
Was told to tag @sherald
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9 hours ago, ondi said:
yea add highway patrol and you'll see their leadership asking to have their own swat team etc.
if you can limit highway patrol to a small station with nothing but officers, air and a few k9s then sure. but it's pretty obvious the faction will start asking for more stuff lmfao.
Funnily enough most people I find are attracted to an SAHP based faction are the die hard traffic enforcers who if given the choice would rather focus on their core aspect that is traffic enforcement or hell, any other type of call that involves RP, over shooty shooty bang bang. (And I have seen them do so on numerous occasions, where the 5th shots fired call gets made, and everyone starts flying onto, they're the ones that go "No thanks", realize there's a boatload of people already going to it, and instead go to any of the other outstanding calls that provides way more roleplay than rolling the dice on wether or not something's going to get voided after wasting 15-30 minutes of your time chasing the shooter who ends up doing something monumentally dumb.)
Of those people that I know who share that same enthousiasm that have leadership experience, each and every one of those vehemently opposed any notion of a doorkickers team. Wanting to focus solely on vehicle-based policing. Pursuit specialists, commercial enforcement, auto theft, etc..
All area's of policing that are woefully understaffed or outright can't be given the proper level of attention due to other, more pressing concerns.
End of the day, whilst we're veering a bit off-topic.Most of the issues that we're originally all chaffing our collective nuts at, CAN be solved ICLY by lawmakers. The only problem is that this issue is taken OOC by the admin team, be it LFM or IFM that have to rule on these things. And LFM and IFM typically tend to contain admins that are rather... passionate about representing. I mean this without disrespect, or a jab at anyone in particular. But this was another great example, where we had an IC reaction to this issue in particular in the form of very strict law changes, harsher penal codes pertaining to these that with time, would curb this problem to the point where it's a significant improvement over what we have now. But unfortunately, those passionate people feel that those very hard and strict penal code changes would be a detriment to the server and it's playerbase and demanded those be watered down. Which defeats the purpose entirely. So whilst there's already a bill being drafted to adress this issue, as usuall it'll lack the teeth necessary to make any meaningfull change.
Unfortunate.
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3 hours ago, Alyssa McCarthy said:
Didn't know that, then we're half way there.
I just think rather than complain OOC about something, at least exhaust IC avenues of resolving such problems.
If this is ICly perceived to be a big problem by government, let them make the crime far more punitive and have more IC consequences.
Yeah, although reckless driving is typically something that traffic officers go after rather than patrol officers, because it requires proper articulation in arrest reports how exactly someone was reckless. It's why you'll typically find traffic officers posted up in ways where if they catch you, it's for more than just the speed. Vespucci Boulevard's a great example. They'll set up in a way that if you're blowing through there at mach-jezus, you're not going to be stopping at every intersection. 110 mph down vespucci is a stretch to call reckless without proper articulating.
But 110 mph down vespucci, along with running 3 intersections, all of which are essentially blind intersections where you can't properly see traffic comming from either sides unless you drive slow, is far easier to justify as reckless driving. Having it all on dashcam is the neat little cherry on the cake.
The problem is that reckless driving is only 1 hour in jail. If you're staying online that turns into 20 minutes with the 3x time modifier. So, you'll have officers still writing up the finishing touches on the paperwork before they're already back out onto the street.
That does a number to the motivation.
The problem with making it an IC issue, is that for laws like this to be changed and more strict, it needs to go through LFM/IFM
I'll keep my personal opinions on LFM & IFM aside, as that's an entirely different topic on it's own. But unfortunately, they need to approve law changes like these. And more often than not, they'll ask to water things down before they'll approve them. Even this bill (which is a monumental step forward already, having it in the senate to begin with) had to be watered down slightly already.
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@Price Any more info on wether this welcoming job is going to be able to be done by people already in official factions and ifso, how well those can be combined?
Is there going to be a quota or are you going to be able to just freely reach out whenever you choose?
If you've got someone new who's interested in doing LEO RP, and you're an LEO, are you able to use your faction acess to properties & stuff to showcase stuff to them? I.E Show them the police stations, where they go, more faction-specific stuff? Likewise for someone interested in medical RP like LSFD or pillbox medical people? Are those people for example going to be able to select options like "I'm new to roleplay and want a generalized tour" aswell as "I'm a new/somewhat experienced/veteran RP'er and I'm already leaning towards a specific kind of RP."
I.E. Can someone who is already pre-disposed towards a certain type of RP go "Hmm.. I'm pre disposed to crip RP/surreno RP/asian gang/organized crime" and get in touch with a "helper" who's already in that specific area of RP?
Stuff like this I'm curious about. How far does this extend. Program wise.
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9 hours ago, Barbary said:
That's the thing, they are. That's why every LEO in this thread has been yelling 'Let us take licenses' and 'let us take cars.'
The funny thing is I can throw someone in jail for going 120 down vespucci, blowing my side mirrors off in the process, runnning 4 intersections. And he'd be out before the paperwork's done printing.
Extra funny if they plea no contest, contest, and then get charges dropped cause the judge goes "What do you mean going mach 3 down vespucci whilst running 4 intersections and narrowly missing a patrol car is reckless?!"
The only people who still go after traffic offenses are the actual traffic folks in PD (And SD? I think?) and even then, there's only a select few willing to throw the book, because the book is poorly defined, open to interpretation or just plain lacking.
the max fine for speeding only goes up to 7.5k and you need to be caught 3 times before you'll start getting that number in fines. Drop in a pond considering the people who do end up getting caught 3 times are the ones driving cars worth half a mil. You could make the fines 50k per time you get caught. People just do what they do now, and just not pay them. Cause there's zero oversight. Courts don't actively keep track of fines being paid or not. Cops do. And it's up to cops to "Alert" the courts and go "Hey courts, this guy hasn't paid his fines." However for whatever reason, some smart potato decided "The current 3 days to pay fines is way, way to short. I shall instead make it so they have a whole 28 days to not pay their fines."So you can't do anything for a month, and by the time the month's passed. You'll have already forgotten about this, because time doesn't stop & neither does your workload.
Take the approach of seasoned traffic coppers. They'll put themselves in a position where they can nail you for reckless driving without too much effort. You again need to be caught 3 times before you start experiencing license suspensions or impounds. And even then. Those same people who get caught and now lost their elegy for 4 days, still have a retro commet, a sunrise, and a sultan RS in their garage.
Not to worry! If they hop into either one of those, they'll be caught for driving on a suspended license!
Yeah, except for the fact that the jail time for that specificly is 45 minutes. Considering jail time goes down 3x faster if you're online. They're, again, out before the paperwork is well & truly done. If they're unlucky they'll have lost that car aswell.
And still have another 2 laying around.
Like I said. No teeth in the penal code. Leading to a laissez-faire attitude, leading to what we have now.
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Imho, approach it from both an IC & OOC angle.
thurough review of the traffic section of the penal code and give it some actual teeth.
Hit people where it hurts. Financially and make it as annoying as possible.
Start with actual revocations of licenses. Currently there's not a single crime in the penal code that allows you to outright revoke a license. Significantly hike up fines & prison time for traffic offenses. Permanent seizure of vehicles used repeatedly to break the sound barrier within the city. Losing a 200-400k car is going to hurt alot more than a 10k ticket.
At the same time, come at it from an OOC perspective on the administrative side. And I'm sure you'll start seeing changes.
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I believe some people from PD's traffic team went to their congressman with the question to review the traffic laws as it's currently laughably easy, and there's no real deterrent.
There is zero counterplay to people in sunrises and STX's that are fully tuned up. Even the new souped up utilities that were handed out to PD & SD don't hold a candle to them. The idea was that enough evidence would be gathered to either A. Go after the driver if the driver was known, or B. Go after the car and have the car seized permanently.
Furthermore it expanded on drivers licenses having a points system a la LSRP if anyone here still remembers them. Where you'd have a 3-strike policy in terms of warnings. Once a 3rd warning on the license was given, car gets impounded, license revoked which means you'd have to wait 7 days IRL before you'd be able to re-do your drivers test and get a new license.
That same revocation status was applied to serious traffic offenses, so if you were busted going 120 miles per hour down vespucci as many do and you got caught, you'd not only go to jail, you'd have the car impounded for 7-14 days, license revoked for 7 days and a 25.000$ fine thrown at you.
With a clause in effect if you evaded from police in a high performance vehicle, the evading charge would essentially double in terms of time, impound & fine. The current fines max out at 20k for most of em. For a mallrat that's pocket change.
Current penal code lacks teeth in every sense of the word.
Attempts were made from our side to take it IC, but unfortunately it needs to come from the legislative side. And it's been pretty quiet from their side sadly.
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Looking at how punishments are handed out, and having been in a server that straight up perm banned you with zero remorse if you were caught lying to admins.
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1 hour ago, Shaderz said:
Hello everyone.
PHMC is running a public survey to gather community feedback regarding the next steps we should take to implement monetization plans and billing programs for core services of our faction, such as appointments, emergency room services, medications & prescriptions, and so on.
We would greatly appreciate if you could take some time out of your day to provide us with your input on the various topics addressed in the survey, as you, the player, is what keeps this faction alive. Questions that require you to type anything at all are optional, multiple-choice ones are mandatory. The survey is also completely anonymous.
To access the survey, please click here.
If you have any questions about the survey itself or in regards to the topics addressed in it, feel free to ask away here.
Thanks in advance!
You make references to coverages, premium plans, etc but I don't seem to find those anywhere. Can those be posted here?
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1 hour ago, Rino said:
My thing is, we were right next to the alley. I was still in the group when I was being shot. Even when I moved, I didn’t see that guy there at all. Didn’t even know shots came from that way towards you - like I said, that occurring was random and a mess. Logically nobody would run in the direction of a shooter, just turned to flee from the spot nearest to me.
Yet that is exactly what happened. Someone at the end of that alleyway started shoot straight down it, towards us. Or to you. I don't know who the inteded target was, but if I'm taking fire? I'm firing back. Everyone from PD & SD that was there, ran back to us and started unloading down that alleyway. Yet your group that had allegedly nothing to do with it, starts running around like headless chickens, right into the line of fire.
It's exactly like you say, a mess. But the only thing I saw, was us returning fire. Nothing more. And once the firing ceased, we moved up and started sweeping for survivors and suspects.
I was shot during the opening stages of the fight, properly RP'd my injuries, and logged off for the night.
As much as I want to sympathise, it boils down to one of 3 things
1) Your group was the one that decided to open fire on police that was serving a warrant (Which is entirely possible, as I overheard people from your group talking as if they know the person we were after.)
2) Your group was caught in the crossfire of a 3rd party that opened fire on police, which is unfortunate. Does it suck? Yes. Was it intentional and malicious? No. Did we see all of you and went "kill everything"? No.
3) Your group was the intended target, and WE were caught in the crossfire. Which I think is what actually happened. In which case again, is unfortunate. But logic would dictate you would RUN AWAY from the gunfire if you weren't involved, not RUN TOWARDS AND INTO the firefight.
Nobody, be it from PD or SD had the intention of shooting people willy nilly. Now if you were actually getting shot at, from police's side, whilst the gunfire was actively going on? Then I don't know what to say, except "wasn't me." I legit got shot at. Saw where the shot came from, and returned fire.
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I'll throw in the streamable I managed to make.
To verify what Pepper already said. Everyone in your group made a break for it. Except one guy, which I'm suspecting is you. And that one guy proceeded to literally run around like a headless chicken (no offense) doing his very best to get shot by every bullet that went up & down that alleyway. You can see me clearly frustrated by it.
At the end you even proceed to run straight towards the corner where we first took shots from. I'm sorry, but if you were that guy? While unfortunate you put yourself there. Not us.
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39 minutes ago, Viscaria said:
The discussion here is not to reduce any consequences of a characters actions nor to have them mitigated, it is a discussion to discuss if there are other options other than placing a character into a point of stasis. If a potential solution was to have more LEO's interact with suspects, that would aid in the topic at discussion, hope that helps.Could always have the 48 hour hold take place in prison instead of a police station. Doesn't make much sense realism wise, but the prison is big enough it can house a temporary hold section. We put people in prison for less than 2 days that the investigative hold takes. That way there might be more possibility for roleplay. Interaction with CO's. The hold is secure enough. If the suspect contacts anyone it'll have to be through a jail phone which is tapped. Through lettering which is checked, or through a snuck in phone, which got there through means of RP.
We send literally everything else up to prison anyway. Might aswell go all the way.
Possible solution?
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The consequences of your characters action should not be mitigated just because it inconveniences you OOCLY. There's other games that meet that goal. But for an RP server that is literally meant to be as realistic as possible, you can't have it so that you can skate through murder & mayhem without suffering the consequences if you fail. Wether that's busted, or killed.
God forbid your character undergoes any sort of character development because they got their ass handed to them, or things didn't go their way..
Where is the appeal in having a character that is 100% succesfull all day, every day, at all times. Never faces any adversary, always gets what they want. And can get away with anything without any fear of failure or repercussions?
Inconveniences are part of the story. They give meaning. If you pull off a succesfull evade from police during a chase, it'll have that more meaning knowing if they DID bust your ass, you'd be spending a few days in jail.
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I'll verify I guess.
I uh, suggested voiding, because on my screen atleast, it was 100% deliberately stalling a cop car responding somewhere, brakechecking me, and ultimately going into the left-hand sorting lane, waiting for me to reach the intersection, then suddenly turning into the right lane (My lane) to cause the accident.
And luckily for him, I happened to be watching House on my second monitor half an hour earlier, still had the tab open. And since prime fucks with shadowplay, my shadowplay was forced-off.
I have zero reason to lie. I told what I saw to whoever was investigating the crash on the PD's side word-for-word what the dashcam would show, but Tyreek is claiming different. All I can say is that if he claims anything else, he's lying. But I got no proof.
So seemed like the best approach. Note to self, close tabs before doing anything that might need shadowplay.
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3 hours ago, Forbes said:
Just started playing world today look for a faction to have fun with, still kinda new to roleplay
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I've made the same remark. There's giving people a second chance, and there's letting people walk all over you.
When someone got an admin record as it is, and somehow keep getting themselves in admin situations, forum reports, and people reporting them, the common denominator is pretty apparent here. Where there's smoke there's fire.
Watching someone in a torrence murder a meter maid and catching an ajail for it is hilariously depressing.
Watching someone in a torrence shoot a rookie & training officer pulling them over cause they ran a red light. Because "I /MIGHT/ have a warrant."
or my favorite "me & my 3 bro's JUST committed armed robbery 15-20 minutes ago, and continue to drive around, sticking out like a sore thumb because I feel like it. It's not DM."
Hell, unless I'm very much mistaken, and feel free to correct myself if that's the case. I seem to recall management years ago emphasise that "Player Retention" was higher on the priority list than appropriately deal with rulebreaking. With admins being told to deliberately go easy on people, rather than throw the book at people.
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On 9/30/2023 at 9:36 PM, Mór-Ríoghain said:
This was actually a very convincing post. That said, I do think the restrictions are too restrictive. Like the fact you can't use a car even if it's just to drive to a different neighborhood, park a few blocks away, then rob someone is kind of odd. That is a lot more risky and reasonable than a four deep hitsquad jumping out of a suped up Torrence with AR's to rob for a PF pistol.
Like if you use a car it is an advantage, but if the car is parked a few blocks away and an LEO happens upon the scene running back to that car is a cointoss to whether you'll actually get away or not.
Funnily enough, wether or not the restrictions are too restrictive or not is academic at this point, cause people still do it regardless. Cause they know all they'll get is an admin jail if they get caught. Which is a big if.
A 4-man hitsquad in the typical torrence almost always gets away. Cause 3 out of 4 times, the moment you pull it over, they'll start blasting you before you have a chance to do anything. And for alot, that ruins the vibe for the rest of the night.
Before that, if you used the BF400, it was virtually impossible to get caught. Nobody would chase you for both IC & OOC reasons. Hell, motorcycles to this day are a get-out-of-jail-free card for anyone, regardless of what you did, short of murder. Most of the non-RP comes from motorcycles. Cause they know nobody's going chase. Half the pursuits these days turn into someone /VP'ing their car, often having done /vget -> insert_bike_name.png and jet off into the sunset.
The play 2 win behavior is rampant. And unless that gets adressed at it's core, it's doubtfull to see any sort of restrictions lifted.
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Burnt out.. Don't know how to even enjoy GTAW Anymore Any tips?
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Could always go that route too, just know they're vastly different in terms of culture & stuff.