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Code 307 needs to be re-written. No where does it state that manufacturing, buying or selling of Lockpicks is illegal. It only states that they are illegal with intent to break into a car or property. If it is illegal as Bjork stated, it needs to be stated in code 307. Based on my in-game experience I saw several lockpick ads both selling and buying and never saw one player kicked. Which lead me to believing that the selling and buying of lockpicks through ads were completely legal. Because I could not fine a law saying otherwise.

You’ve kicked me once and it was 2 days ago, with no explanation besides “illegal ad” so I just wanted clarification on why it was an illegal ad. From my experience when I started, in-game I saw multiple selling and buying lock pick ads so I was confused on why all of a sudden I was kicked for one. Hence, why this thread was created. Because there is obviously confusion regarding lock picks. All we needed was clarification on it. I think you guys need to rewrite the code then. As it only applies to having lock picks being illegal with intent. There is no legitimate use for locksmith supplies so an ad like that would probably still be illegal. Did you even read the thread?

I like this. As I feel there is a lot of grey areas with lockpicks. I feel as a clarification to the whole lock picks could easily sort out the selling and buying of lock picks, Because under code 307 I believe, lock picks are only illegal with intent to break-in.

@Björk @Nervous Can we get a little in sight? It seems that Bjork has been the only admin to find lock pick ads unacceptable. Any insight would be nice to clear things up for all players.

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Thats a good point @ArminHammer831 Also, from what I’ve seen, I’d have to agree with you on not all admins enforcing it equally. @Westen@Nervous @Björk looking for some clarification on this, before making any more advertisements. Are they legal to sell? Illegal to sell?

IG there is no script for locksmiths. Not to mention there is no need for a locksmith as you never lose your car/house keys. So how would one know if I was a locksmith or not? What I’m gathering is it’s only legal for pawn shops to sell them? I believe that they should be fully illegal, meaning completely black market (so no individual or pawn shop/business can post lock pick ads for sale/buying) or completely legal. No In-between.

So in this scenario I did not have my license. I don’t think that should constitute for me getting kicked. If anything an RP situation should of happened like a police investigation to see if I had one. This is where I don’t understand the rules, and it seems to be a fine line of “maybe I’ll kick them if I feel like it” situation. As Zaxer. Just stated he makes these ads constantly as an illegal pawn shop. And I assume he hasn’t been kicked because of it? Zaxer., do you advertise as a pawn shop? Maybe that’s the way around it? As under 307. At the end I read “with intent to breach a lock without possession of proper licensing” So I ask if there’s no intent to breach a lock and they are just posted for sale are you breaking code 307?

Another example is Capital Pawn shop. They have in there advertisements that they buy and sell lock picks.

I have a question regarding in-game lock pick ads. First, I fully understand that lockpicks picks are illegal in game. Edit: *To use for stealing* Though I’ve seen several in game ads selling lock picks and have been able to buy from those ads without the seller being kicked. I’ve also seen multiple buying lock pick ads, as well as posting those buying ads myself with no problems. But I ran into another player on discord who was kicked for posting a buying lock pick ad. Earlier I posted my first for sale lock pick ad and was immediately kicked by Bjork. I haven’t been able to get an admin to clarify the rules behind advertising lock picks for sale/buying. Again, understanding lock picks are illegal in-game (*To use with intent of stealing*) but ads with lockpicks seem to be walking a fine line of sometimes okay and sometimes not. The only thing I’ve heard is that is at Admin discretion.