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I would also like to ask you, what did your character went through to be a device seller ready to catch 6 bodies because his chain got snatched?
What's even crazier to me is that you shot him down a block away from where two units of the LSPD were at, and if like that wasn't bad ass enough you wanted to pick up Theodore's phone and call his gang saying that he was dead? All of that a block away from the police?
Your attitude and your standards are poor.
I provided you nothing but quality roleplay, everything we did had a meaning and a context behind, everything was kept IC, your chain getting snatched was Cody's initiation into Theodore's gang. We just wanted to have and provide fun but you clearly can't take a loss, that by the way we shouldn't even call a loss since his chain was not even an item, just roleplay.
Over a stolen chain you was down and ready to kill 6 people, three of them being teenagers. All of that knowing that the police was around the same neighborhood you murdered Theodore. Crazy.
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Hello, I was browsing through the forum and I seen that my name is being mentioned here. I'll get a few things clear right away so the admin doesn't waste any time handling this situation.
Slim, I understand that you might be new to the server but guilty of association isn't enough reason to go and try to kill two guys just because one of them was chatting and being cocky with the female you was sitting next to.
I would also like to add that your character never seen me or Theodore even talking to the guys that robbed your chain. Now, about the pictures you sent of us in the Cavalcade claiming that we were trying to pit you, I was parking over because I wanted to see what was going on, you were literally chasing them down the street with your SUV, hence why your vehicle is where it is in your pictures. Do I have to mention that the place we were in was a safezone? Why would you try to run them over in a safe zone?
About me quitting the game, I'll say it right now, the handling admin can check the logs and see what's up, I was roleplaying for a couple hours and I wanted to have a 30 minutes rest to eat something, smoke, go back.
@Cheeezy If I knew a shootout was about to take place I would simply never quit, we just didn't expect him to be so insane to start something in Mirror Park knowing that he just been past two cruisers minutes ago. I had a gun on me, Theodore did too, these guys took Theodore by surprise, I was not expecting this to escalate to murder at all. His reason behind this killing is guilty of association and we weren't even the ones that robbed him. We weren't even close to them, Slim just metagamed his way about thinking we knew each other, and his predictions were right, however, his character would never know since Dean haven't seen we speak with them.
The video shows that even though I was disconnecting for an OOC reason, Theodore still didn't take that as an excuse to metagame with his friends for them to pick him up, he did a phone call and communicated strictly IC.
Your poor roleplay while killing Theodore really makes me sad, "smoking on Theodore and his gang's pack". We never at any moment gave you a reason to act like a dickhead, at all. We kept our measures IC at all times, apparently you just let your feelings take place I guess, beginner's mistake.
I'll be available if the handling admin has any further questions.
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the ones against this suggestion are the ones worried about what the "inexperienced" players will do with it. Although I agree that the inexperienced players from this community will abuse it to some extent, I don't agree that we should restrict these guns. The answer is in the punishment when it comes to rulebreaking, it is not severe, therefore these inexperienced players don't respect it.
The only counter argument to this suggestion is that rulebreakers won't put their hands on them, restricting rulebreakers won't help with the issue, I agree with your suggestion and rifles should be sold in stores.
A rule breaker will break rules whether it's with a knife, pistol, or fully automatic rifle. It doesn't matter, if you wanna handle the issue properly be harsher with your punishments.
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9 hours ago, HerpToTheDerp said:
Not all of the money some receives will go back to the government but it would eventually. Things like a character wipe, CK, player getting banned all puts money back into the city bank.
You can believe that there is no government bank but Nervous has mentioned in the past this is how the server is set up.
I read what he said and I would like to quote something that I found interesting.
"Closed circle economy
We have achieved after 2 years all the changes we wanted to put in place on the gamemode to work in a closed circle economy, what does this mean? Every $1 you're receiving or giving ingame is going to another player:
Your taxes are going up to the government, your purchases are going into businesses' banks which are then paying their employees, expenses, etc."
So, as Nervous himself said, any kind of money you receive or give will go to another player, so money stays between players, fine. But as I said before, every player has the opportunity of racking up $600,000 throughout the 3 characters he can have. That's $600,000 per player, We have on average a good 600-700 players, don't we? If we were to estimate how much money we have going back and forth between players it would be something around 300-350M.
Thing is, every new player that joins will pump AT LEAST another 200K in the server, as the years go by a lot of people will come and will also leave, but the money will stay. That's my point, you're constantly pumping from 200 to 600K per player while all the money that goes around and comes around stays between the players.
It is no secret that in a while money will not hold any sort of value because everyone will have so much that it doesn't even matter. We seen it before buddy, this already happened. I believe I am doing something good just for pointing this out to whoever's reading, including staff. It's a matter of time before money loses value. If money loses value then something will replace it, as I said, drugs and guns. That will be the new currency. There is time to make a change.
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4 hours ago, HerpToTheDerp said:
This is wrong. There is an AFK system but only under 40 hours. The money does not come from the server itself either, it's all taken from the government bank. Consider it a stimulus check for moving to the city. Maybe some parts of the economy are higher than others but I think there's a bit of players in each class category.
Elaborate why I didn't get kicked by AFKing the first 40 hours of my character then, please. Also, do the test yourself and see what's what.
Government bank? So you assume that players spend that money gambling, buying guns, drugs, whatever it is... And it comes back to the government?
Whoever told you that is just bullshitting you, I'm sorry. There is no way even half of that money will go back to the server itself, even if they buy cars, they'll buy from players because at this point is nonsense buying from a dealership, maybe when you buy an apartment that isn't being used, then yes, that money does go back to the server, other than that? No.
I'm not saying the economy is fucked right now, quite the opposite it is going strong, but this is not an economy meant to last 5 to 10 years. If every new player has the "power" of pumping $600,000 into the server, the server is constantly growing with new players, how many players we need for the "government bank" run out of money and new players stop receiving money? That won't happen buddy, there is no bank. This money comes from the server itself.
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Caught me by surprise that this is already an issue, but it will be way more common as the years go by, the economy this server built is not meant to last five to ten years, because people get too much money. As soon as you create an account here you instantly have the opportunity of having $600,000 split between all three characters, just by staying online, which is not even a big deal considering there's no AFK system.
That's $600,000 per player, all that money comes from the server itself, not the players, while yes indeed a good amount of players will spend that money, at the end of the day is $600,000 per player.
As more players join more money is pumped into the server, if everyone got money then money loses its value, something will replace that value, whether is drugs, guns or even both.
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Nervous is not a creep
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On 10/7/2020 at 12:05 AM, St3fan[NL] said:
Reports take a while to process. Several factors come into play. It's not like an instant removal if you send something in. It's going to be investigated by IA or Command/Staff officers and then discussed for an appropriate punishment.
This is still a game and not real life, people here come to play and relax not to discuss 24/7 when they're around. Cut them some slack.
Very good point, just would like to remind you that in every single server the police department is the faction that represents the server as a whole. Why?
Because if I feel like a faction is shit, I can simply avoid it... I don't need to roleplay with a shit faction, and if even though they still force shit roleplay upon me I am allowed to post a report against the same faction and that will at least stop them from interacting with me at all.
That's not the case with the PD, the whole server HAS TO ROLEPLAY WITH THEM, regardless if they're in the legal or illegal side of things. There is no such thing against posting a forum report against the PD itself, there is no such thing as avoiding roleplay with them.
So when I come home to relax and I am forced to roleplay with someone who joined the PD but is not even able to roleplay a human being it jumps from a relaxing experience to a stressful one, sure, it's only a few bad apples like everyone says. But when the bad apples ONLY RECEIVE A WARNING for something ridiculous such as failing to roleplay injuries and failing to roleplay a gun on them, it makes you feel hopeless. I totally understand what the guy above said because it's frustrating, even with proper evidence screaming at your face that the guy is blatantly powergaming he still leaves with a warning.
And to top everything off, they will still take 3-5 weeks (minimum) to look at your evidence. It's a joke buddy, I'm not even ranting because these things happened and turned into forum reports. It's all there for you to look, got to a point where nowadays I don't even bother sending them anything, what a warning will do? Nothing, it's that simple.
If you wanna make things better and stop players from posting what I did out here, just fix your faction man. Stop giving warnings and start giving examples. Got to the point where I can't even bother sending y'all evidence.
A month of wait to read "Thanks for your report X guy has received a warning", stop fucking around.
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6 hours ago, Gargam3i said:
It was sent to Charles Hughes he replied once with: "Hello,
My sincere apologies for the late response, I have been on absence for the past week. I'll review your report and forward it to the staff office post haste."
This was on the 8th of September, my reminders were sent on the following dates:
Sept 17Oct 02
Both are read but no replies.
Now I'm not trying to bash but when people complain about the roleplaying standard about LSPD they say to report it through the proper channels because it's taken extremely serious by leadership, this whole scenario doesn't really leave the feeling of a genuine quality roleplay report is even being taken care off. In fact, it gives the vibes that it's hopeless even bothering reporting quality rolepaly reports.
I did a report against a police officer for powergaming, took something like 3 weeks to get him gone from the PD but that's only because the evidence was clear as fucking daylight, if you think that's long wait until you decide to report a staff member, shit, I'm waiting for the past two months homie. Good luck.
Oh, I forgot, he didn't get removed, he chose to leave, they only gave him a warning.
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5 minutes ago, downasshyna said:
u go hard dog, kinda remind me of vertido... wonder wheres that creep nowadays
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HAHAHAHAHAHA this dude
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15 hours ago, Sacred said:
I don't think a past-time roleplay server is viable. If possible, I'd like to see all three maps — Los Santos, Vice City, and Liberty City.
you don't think roleplaying in the past is viable but you think it's okay to leave 3 huge cities for 500 players? hahahahahaha buddy what you smoking on?
with 500 players online you can barely catch people in the streets because of how big los santos is
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47 minutes ago, Seanny said:
I don't know if this has been mentioned already, but I would like to see more corrupt/dirty cops, of course nothing too crazy. Like, being allowed to be brutal, demanding (or accepting) a bribe, releasing MDC info, etc. Of course, this should (if not already) be regulated as I don't want every Tom, Dick and Harry officer to be corrupt.
But being able to see more corrupt cops (even if not much) would be quite nice.
this is something rare in every roleplay server i've ever been up to, mostly because of rule restrictions and moaning from players that can't really take a loss.
im all up to seeing some of that in here, for some reason people that join PD try to be some fucking superheros or some shit
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1 hour ago, Engelbert said:
A good roleplayer should never consider their characters being themselves. Cause that's where line between IC and OOC gets blurry, which shouldn't happen. I'd word it like this. A good roleplayer plays realistically according to their character. And takes every factor into consideration. Which is not so common. It's all about details rather than the whole picture.
you got this shit twisted buddy, i never said that you should act like your character OOCly, it's the other way around. If you act like that character is you, while ingame of course, your roleplay is way better, the decisions you make are way more realistic, everything becomes better, you bring more immersion not only to the people around you but to yourself, it's just more fun all around, for everyone involved.
hence why Valenti smashes the same key for over a decade, you must roleplay like that character is you, this made their faction the greatest ever, they're still up and running after a decade, well respected not only in LSRP but in any community you'll ever come across. they provide the greatest sort of roleplay, simply because they bring immersion to the fullest when you're around them. it's just a good time no matter what.
this is the most basic rule a good roleplayer should follow, act like that character is you
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A good roleplayer is someone that plays like the game is real life, like the character he's playing is him, a good roleplayer is someone that takes everything around his environment into consideration, fear, addiction, hunger, weather, everything.
A properly roleplayed character is that character that makes you feel like that's a real person.
It's as simple as that, really. If the community was composed by the kind of player I just told y'all about, we simply wouldn't have forum reports, none of that. Play to win is inexistent when you play with AND against this kind of player.
What I realized over the years is that the good roleplayer is the one that always gets what he wants, because he's welcome anywhere, either as a friend or enemy. You want to play with and against this kind of player regardless of his position.
Good screenshots never made someone less of a shitty player or more of a good player, they're just screenshots.
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it’s too much saying that most wars are over women, some sets are fighting for so long that even them don’t know the reason, it became pure hate.
wars happen literally over anything, you can say something started because of a women, sure, that happens, saying that these sets are banging against each other for so long over a women is wrong.
its usually a chain of actions, sometimes shit dies down and then something silly happens, boom, back at it
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10 minutes ago, Ears Up said:
Gang wars get intense over an array of things bro. Especially with Hispanic gangs, most gangs are at war irl over women bro.
no? who told you that? seriously buddy you gotta stop believing everything you see on the internet, yeah there might have a set beefing with another set because someone fucked a women from that other side but it’s ridiculous for you as a faction leader to come out here and say that MOST GANGS are in war just because of women. quit the bullshit, this even makes your faction look bad
if you wanna talk about this gang shit as a whole at least speak facts and not the bullshit you see on the internet, MOST gangs are beefing for decades, their newer generations were taught to hate that other set growing up, most of them are beefing and don’t even know why, it’s pure hate
dont come up with “oh it’s mostly because of women” cause u talking shit buddy
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16 minutes ago, Ears Up said:
What other methods do you recommend when a gang dispute is intense? Because if I'm being real with you, there's only so long that the whole brawl thing can be done before knives or guns are drawn regardless.
this is what you and most faction leaders don’t seem to understand buddy, we are not saying people shouldn’t pull out guns, what we are saying is that it’s utterly retarded to go 4deep ready to wipe out their sisters and aunties and anyone else who’s on the way just because you lost a brawl
and to answer your question, there’s numerous things you can do, rob a rival gang member, expose him on social media, force him to diss his own set, when you role play with and against decent players this kind of thing happens on daily basis, it’s not all about beating someone up and getting gunned down, if it is, i’m sorry but the faction management should have a firm grip upon it.
ill never forget the beef our faction had with sunnyside crips back in lsrp, the way they handled themselves and the beef was just so good that we would log in hoping that we would have at least one interaction with them, took almost 5 weeks to have guns out, before that it was all about death threats and catching someone slipping, pretty much what i said above. more of this should happen in here
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30 minutes ago, DeadPlaya said:
I completely agree w the last few posts on this thread. I've been goin on n on about the gang scene on here for years but nobody wants to listen. It feels like people want to differentiate themselves from LS:RP so bad they'll refuse to learn how to rp whatever they're portraying. From basic shit like what it means to be a gang banger as opposed to a gang member n how they act and operate to just speech and slang. GTA:W street gangs are the only place I've seen people drop apostrophes after every word since 2013. Not only that, I've seen people talk as if this was World of Worldcraft RP server, completely n utterly disconnected from reality. It's jarring to RP with someone n they talk like no human being would ever talk. I've seen good instances of slang being used but more often than not people go way too overboard n overuse Caló or just straight up spanish as if they got something to prove.
I feel like the gta:w gang scene needs to realize that they're doing something wrong n start accepting help, cause there's plenty of people out there willing to help em.
i wish i could express myself like you do, took the words out of my mouth
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6 minutes ago, yerro said:
I'm not familiar with gangs on this server, just to clarify that. I was addressing your pursuit of "original and unique experiences". While that does sound good, above you're coming across like you'd choose something for the sake of being original over realism and immersion. If that's not the case, sorry.
that's not the case, read my shit again and you'll understand.
we're not going back and forth and im sorry if i offended you that's just the way i speak in person.
you're clearly not familiar with gangs in this server, neither with gangs in LSRP, because if you was, you would understand that everything here is played out, just like i mentioned, there's lack of creativity here, the goal of a serious/respectable faction is not to be 1:1 with reality, the goal is to provide realism and immersion while being something unique.
what i said applies to everybody? of course not, for you that don't really have any experience with gangs everything is new and unique, for the majority of us it is not. and trust me there's nothing wrong with just being an average faction that is 1:1 with reality but even this is lacking here.
the major issue is that when i browse thru the faction threads it almost makes me laugh because the knowledge we all earned from lsrp is not being applied here, these guys dont know what they're doing at all.
once again buddy it wasn't my intention to offend you and im sorry if i did, i hope you have a great day!
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20 minutes ago, yerro said:
Let me say that I'm not from the States, nor am I familiar with the NA gang scene personally in any way as you may be. But lemme ask you this as well — do you think your examples are single, individual cases or common occurrence? Would you say these people stand out among their peers, or would you say they blend in?
I think it's more the former than the latter. Sure, you can have someone dressing the way they did in the 90s, but it doesn't change the fact that would stand out today. How applicable is that for different neighborhoods in LA? That's my point, I guess.I don't think I agree with that. Pursuing something new is generally a good thing, but pursuing something new for the sake of replacing the authentic old isn't exactly right. I would rather lean towards accurate and/or interesting representation. If you want to portray something and you have the necessary resources—well, people—to do the same, then by all means, feel free.
That being said, your argumentation reminds me of the same trend to pursue original concepts for no other reason than to appear original, rather than put your creative skills to good use in delivering the concept—something that plays a much bigger role.
common occurrence for sure, it's not really easy to speak about it because as i said there's no specific rule about it, but it's 100% common to see a full blown cholo and a "modern" dude banging the same set, it honestly depends on how you grew up, how your cousins dressed, how your idols dressed.
about you disagreeing with my opinion, i don't really care but i'll tell you this, i've just seen it all buddy. to attract someone like me into a faction it has to be something original, unique, if i want more of the same shit there's literally a thousand of factions out there that are doing the same old shit people been doing for years, the same old scripted roleplay, i don't fuck with that
i'm on the market for something i haven't experienced before. a fictional set with realistic rules, whatever, it needs to bring immersion. all that shit they be having out here is played out.17 minutes ago, baby woo said:yea what i was getting at is how corny some of the shit looks compared to what LSRPs been able to achieve across the years. their forums has entire guides on how to portray an archetype properly, just look in player-created guides or faction guides and take pages from long standing factions like sm, wgs, ec, tgp, ptp, pen1 etc.
also shameless diss but la eme here is just weird asl in general but im not getting deeper n2 that cause i'll anger somebody lol
im glad we share the same opinion cause that's exactly my point, looks like dudes left the standards back in LSRP when they came out here, it's almost disrespectful.
i catch myself looking at the faction thread and thinking, wow, theres not a single faction out here that looks good enough for me to join
maybe it's just because the server is still "new" and things will get better, but until then id rather be on my own
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16 minutes ago, baby woo said:
more research into 2020 gang banging so they at least feel more natural and in tune (this is especially towards latino gangs) and how they form/act towards their communities instead of going off shit like 90s TF midget/woodie/chuckie, FOX news la taggers and mainstream movies portraying old era sur gangs cus though they're accurate on some parts a lot of it's changed over the years, stuff like american me & mi vida loca is good for knowing the history of ur sht but the new gen wouldn't gaf about it unless you're playin like a 30-40 yr old OG
i also wanna see people play more civilians in the area that gang members will be acquainted with and not just seen as robbing victims as those civilians may know their families and friends etc.
also quit the shit where you just mix spanish words in sentences for the fk of it or just to be "authentic" lol. might be different in a lot of areas cus i only know what i know, but i know even in the 00s the people who did that shit were paisas who didnt perfect english or the OGs and even then it wasnt as crazy as every other sentence containing "jale" or "cuete" or "carrucha"
alot of this comes from earlier transcripts of what gangs used to be like here on gtaw though and nowadays they're very few n i've recently seen that a lot of this has been meditated by more experienced rpers. IFBG and tongva are a personal favorites
the general mentality of gangs going out their way to go rob ppl out of their hood still appears and really should be seldom. i'd rather see more functional gang rivalries be used as the medium for these kinds of acts rather than civilians being targeted like they ain't gonna call the cops on them asap to get em 18 hrs in jail.
where you from? i've lived in LA for 2 years of my life and came across a bunch of gang members, to this day here in Vegas i still end up talking with one or two every once in a while
you can't generalize like you're doing, it ain't like this in real life but you probably don't know cause you're from europe or some shit
you'll come across dudes that dress like full blown cholos and youll come across dudes that wear skinny pants, there is no main rule about this, it's each to their own.
i can't come up and say that nowadays southsiders allow blacks to get jumped in their gang just because there's a clique or two that do that
the only thing i agree on is mixing spanish words in sentences, that shit is corny as fuck and nobody does that, not even people that come from mexico, just stop with this shit.
now, what i wanna see from gang roleplay? something new, ive seen it all already, the rarest thing to come across is a fictional set with fictional rules that will still provide you immersion and look realistic.
and to gang roleplayers, know your shit, specially yall in those white supremacist factions, yall really make it look like a joke (no offense) but i can't take any of yall seriously
most of us came from LSRP, just dont be ashamed of browsing through the old faction/character threads and taking something out of it, there's always people that know what they're doing but for some reason this is lacking here
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Properly roleplayed white supremacist factions, maybe I just miss rolling with PEN1 for all my years in LS:RP but jeez these out here don't come close to what they've offered.
DEFINITELY a better portrayed PD, although I appreciate the effort they have about asking players what's what. I wouldn't mind at all if they just straight up copied LSRP's PD.
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You're right about one thing which I agree 100% with, I should've continued with the RP even though it was one of the most unrealistic and dumbest things I was ever presented to in a heavy roleplay server, two girls driving like crazy on their fancy motorcycles decide to hit a U-turn to chase and attempt to kill a guy because he yelled at them. To me that was so troll and mind blowing that my immediate reaction was "What in the actual fuck" hence why I didn't shoot back, didn't do anything, my immediate reaction was stop and try to realize what in the fuck was going on with you two, well, not you two because you didn't do anything, but Mercedes.
Regarding the waistband, yes, maybe I should understand that some people think a little slower than the others, because from my and mostly everyone's perspective, the line "Robert Bykov is shirtless and the gun is visible would be more than enough to understand that the gun is in his waistband, furthermore the gun was never pulled out, there wasn't even a /DO coming from you two to see where exactly the gun was, but Mercedes' trigger happy mentality follow a simple line as a main rule "Shoot first, ask later", right? Since her intentions were clearly just looting the gun, right?
I'm not mad, quite the opposite I'm a bit surprised, and once again I agree with you, even though that sort of roleplay should be frowned upon at the VERY LEAST in a heavy roleplay server, I should've continued with it, and that was totally my bad.
Denturius is right, if I simply went along with their sub-par roleplay I could later on have enough reason to report and punish them for it, to make her lose her license and still get an admin jail, instead, now they got something against me, I stood against their sub-par roleplay and it was my fault, I agree with whatever punishment you give me but I hope you look at the other side of the coin, because they were the wrong ones in the first place, this kind of roleplay shouldn't be acceptable in a heavy roleplay server.
I broke the rules, Mercedes broke the rules, I believe we should both be punished, Mercedes for providing such a low quality experience for someone who just came back to the server after a year, and me for standing against it.
Drug Market Revamp
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Posted · Edited by Homie
Been reading 15 pages of people talking about it, didn't see nothing that would fix the problem.
"Oh but everyone's using cocaine before shootouts!"
Yes, they are. That's the thing, if you want something like drugs to be consumed in a video game, these drugs need to have advantages and disadvantages.
What we need to do is try to find balance and understand that as much as you and me want this server to be as close as possible to reality you have to understand that a good amount of the playerbase will simply say no to it, because the cons overcome the pros.
I think I've never roleplayed a character that wasn't a drug addict in the past like, five years, but consuming any type of drugs here are simply a pain in the ass. WE DON'T NEED VISUALS. You simply will never come close to mimic what it feels like taking something in real life, so why keep it? I sincerely don't understand why my screen needs to turn green and start shaking just because I want to roleplay smoking a joint.
I only actually consume drugs nowadays for the sake of roleplay, these visuals are out of hand to me.
Is it clear why there's drugs everywhere? Because nobody consumes them.
You don't need to revamp the market, there's drugs for everyone and even if you decide to give them only ounces a week there'll still be a lot, The majority is not consuming at all. Revamp the drugs, find your balance between the pros and cons and think about what you need to do for the players to consume.
Or simply remove these effects, they're just plain stupid.
A server poll would be very useful in this kind of situation, if an admin feels like making it of course. Something that the whole server responds to, understand why drugs are not being consumed by your regular player, not just the ones involved in illegal roleplay.