Are Police/SD/Judicial becoming power drunk?

[Price]

Just now, liq said:

So you have a character that's a judge and you're also apart of the LSSD but you approved LSSD warrants... while being the DA faction leader.

 

Thought that "Judges that are in SD can not accept SD warrants, same with PD, that's how it is right now." though?

 

 

Compare the dates.

[pateuvasiliu]

5 minutes ago, Muerta said:

get pulled over 9/10 for having MASK seen above my character's head. 

Wearing a mask while driving is incredibly suspicious, what? 

[MY H85D]

Just because something happens IRL doesn't mean it's enjoyable to RP. 

[Thekillergreece]

Just wanted to say that from a brief testing that;

Handguns got around 90 ammo max.

Rifles around 250 ammo max.

 

I could be wrong!

 

As for driving, a handful of PD members have been punished ICly when they were found in the wrong over a crash or other violations.

[liq]

Just now, BjornV said:

Again an issue which stems from mindset, not corruption. Get rid of corruption, and you punish the base of officers that have a good minset which doesn't help anyone, it'll only lead to more bad interactions accross the board as people to back to being robotic. (And still misunderstanding the law on an IC + OOC level so they still do illegal stuff cuz they dont know they cant)

 

Nobody advocates for a perfect world where there's no consequences on either side. Corruption role-play isn't just a cool outlet, it's a necessity. The truth is that a vast majority of illegal role-players (faction or factionless, mostly factionless though) have a very skewed way of interacting with the police. When you're a cop role-player, you can't let what a specific person or group does influence how you treat everyone else. Because when you start generalizing the server's population, you end up in the juxtaposition of not wanting to role-play with other people anymore because of perceived preconceptions. It's about live & let live and it always has been.

 

2 minutes ago, Price said:

 

 

Compare the dates.

I'm glad that you identified the problem and fixed it, that's cool. I just find it funny that you were personally one of the people doing exactly what I said you were doing & this was only sorted out 48-72 hours ago. Just because you made a ruling 2 days ago doesn't mean the problem is fixed, just that you've identified it & are working towards a potential resolution.

[Soyuz]

1 minute ago, liq said:

When you're a cop role-player, you can't let what a specific person or group does influence how you treat everyone else. Because when you start generalizing the server's population, you end up in the juxtaposition of not wanting to role-play with other people anymore because of perceived preconceptions

 

This sounds pretty analogous to law enforcement in real life. Over time, you start generalizing the population and treating people like potential suspects or criminals and interact with people based on preconceptions. 

[Deqavious]

12 minutes ago, BjornV said:

If you want to hold this to one person you should hold it to all. Tons of people fool around and type stuff in-character before putting )) in front of it. If it happens in confined places or however, what can you really do to stop it? Nothing. Here's a few years old video:

 

Should that detective have been admin jailed over that?

Heck, it can go worse. I've had admins shoot RPGs or assault rifles at me in dim0 for no other reason than "memes", should all these admins and players who joke around a little sometimes swiftly get removed from staff (if they are staff) and punished administratively? You'd be left without a playerbase.

 

If 'tons of people' were going around VDMing or doxxing people would that make it OK? 

Just because more than one person violates the rules doesn't mean that the server rules should be scrapped and not enforced.

 

We shall make GTA:W a better place, one rulebreaker at a time!

 

#MakeGTAWGreatAgain

[pateuvasiliu]

1 hour ago, Tmthn678 said:

The sad reality is, many players would rather not play at this point than roleplay with many of these police officers as the experience with them has been that bad

If LEOs felt the same about criminals this server would be 100 players lighter. If you think you have it bad, try roleplaying with the average Davis criminal who runs off when he's tazed twice and keeps shouting " FUCK THEM PIGS " while 10 people beat him into submission.

[JulieArt]

1 hour ago, Tmthn678 said:

 

What about the secret SAPR gangs?

[liq]

2 minutes ago, Soyuz said:

 

This sounds pretty analogous to law enforcement in real life. Over time, you start generalizing the population and treating people like potential suspects or criminals and interact with people based on preconceptions. 

Because it is. You aren't law enforcement in real life. You're someone playing a cop. Your OOC behavior doesn't need to scream superiority and edginess. What you role-play as an individual character & is IC is no one's business for as long as you do it fairly.

 

That's the issue.