Keeping evidence private

[Wuhtah]

5 hours ago, i dont wanna od in LA said:

Not really. See: all the 210391293010230 DM reports where people argue whether they could've been seen through tinted windows/walls/whatever else. It's always crucial to see the footage, cause even if you are unaware of doing something and you can't see the footage - how can you possibly own up to it? This entirely gets rid of the entire aspect of being able to notice your own mistakes. It's really just common sense to be able to confront the evidence against you. Especially when reports get dragged on for months, how can you reasonably expect someone to remember what they did on any given day 2+ months ago? It's common sense. 

 

Very true, but usually if anything is sent in private - I get another administrator's opinion JUST to prevent thinking like this. It's sad we have come to this, though. Admins were supposed to have the 'trustworthy' feel when handling wrongdoings.

[Wuhtah]

5 hours ago, joebidensmokesyesca said:

This, you guys are really missing the entire point.

 

The entire arguments provided against this suggestion are "well just trust the admin", why should I have to trust the admin when its been proven countless times over again that several admins are corrupt or commonly overlook rulebreaks that a player can point out. 

 

Its nothing about 'sensitive information' its all about 'I reported someone and broke several rules myself so I'll send the video to the admin in private because its more work for them to point out my rulebreaks as well.'.

 

I'll talk with management and maybe make this a rule for forum reports.

[i dont wanna od in LA]

59 minutes ago, Wuhtah said:

 

Very true, but usually if anything is sent in private - I get another administrator's opinion JUST to prevent thinking like this. It's sad we have come to this, though. Admins were supposed to have the 'trustworthy' feel when handling wrongdoings.

Well, I do not trust admins at all. Time has shown that keeping that kinda stuff behind closed doors leads to nothing good. At that, I also wanna remind you that 90% of those so-called "player reports" turn into a witch hunt as soon as an admin picks them up (because they almost instantly at that point pick a side and dish out accusations). The entire thing with hiding evidence from the accused party just goes to show how the staff-player affairs have gradually degraded. 

Edited November 25, 2022 by i dont wanna od in LA

[Zach..]

26 minutes ago, i dont wanna od in LA said:

Well, I do not trust admins at all. Time has shown that keeping that kinda stuff behind closed doors leads to nothing good. At that, I also wanna remind you that 90% of those so-called "player reports" turn into a witch hunt as soon as an admin picks them up (because they almost instantly at that point pick a side and dish out accusations). The entire thing with hiding evidence from the accused party just goes to show how the staff-player affairs have gradually degraded. 

big agree here. unfortunately thats the state of the server, people dont trust admins.

[displayname]

On 11/24/2022 at 3:35 PM, Miss Femboy said:

Maybe they don't want everyone seeing private messages or phone numbers or even information that can and will me MG'd.

if we go by this logic we should ban character/faction threads cause it might incite MG

[Laird Mayhew]

2 hours ago, displayname said:

if we go by this logic we should ban character/faction threads cause it might incite MG

Big brain comment. If there is no fear of character/faction threads causing MG, this shouldn't be any different unless its admin chat or something like that.

[pateuvasiliu]

On 11/24/2022 at 6:14 PM, joebidensmokesyesca said:

If you're so worried about getting clowned on, just don't post the report?

I consider it my duty towards the community to help stamp out rule breaking. You are most welcome.

 

 

[joebidensmokesyesca]

7 hours ago, pateuvasiliu said:

I consider it my duty towards the community to help stamp out rule breaking. You are most welcome.

 

 

Same here pal, but if evidence isn't visible to me how can I point out rulebreaks? 

[pateuvasiliu]

6 hours ago, joebidensmokesyesca said:

Same here pal, but if evidence isn't visible to me how can I point out rulebreaks? 

Film your own, buddy.

Edited November 26, 2022 by pateuvasiliu

[Jeroen]

2 hours ago, pateuvasiliu said:

Film your own, buddy.

This is what I always tell people: Cover your ass.

 

Hard drives are cheap, get some and dump all the evidence on it.