'Special One-Time Vehicle Leases' - Your Opinion.

[iFlyKid]

In my personal opinion its unneeded paperwork and more work for admins/PM to have people apply for said lease request. Why not just have them in-game and price them at a ridiculously stupid high price. 5M for this vehicle, 10M for that. If a player can afford a 5M$ car then why does that person need to write a 2 page essay on how he put the vehicle into good use. Plus as a starting player you can only make 225,000$ of free money so you can start your roleplay adventure and earn more. If a player has 5+ million dollars in the bank, don't you think that player already deserved that hard earned cash? He probably found a lucrative way to make more money and why should we limit that person with a 2 page essay on why he's worthy of said vehicle. It's not like he didn't sit there for 20 minutes making up some bullshit story just so an admin can approve his lease request lol. We already have RPQM that combs through players with unrealistic assets anyway. The whole aspect of micromanaging everything will get notoriously annoying and can demotivated people at the masses. You don't go to Ferrari's Dealership and the salesman asks you "Hey can you write me a good reason why you want this car?" If you have the dough you come out driving a Ferrari or whatever your heart makes you happy. 

 

If anything, Nervous can add a limit to the vehicles that are sold from the script dealership. Same as the component system for business. I.E. 10X of idk Ferrari. Once its gone, its GONE. You can't buy anymore until 6 months from now that a magical shipment comes with more fancy cars. That would essentially make the vehicle extremely luxurious and you won't have everyone in the server grabbing a car. 

 

 

If you have millions of dollars in the bank, god bless you, really. Enjoy your earnings. 

 

I do believe the more restrictions we apply as a community to players, the more they'll be demotivated and therefore people will just end up being so demotivating they'll stop donating and they'll find something else to play (Which btw, already happened to one of my good friends and consistent donator and she won't come back because of the sheer amount of paperwork and dedication needed on a game). For one I personally don't want to use my day off to write an essay after an essay to explain how and why I want to use up my money. We all forget at times this is a game, and yes we try to emulate real life. But there should always be a balance and for one I am heavily opposed on anything that is time consuming and not efficient even for the most veteran admin. 

 

 

That's just my two cents on this. 

Edited May 19, 2022 by iFlyKid

[Kowboy]

14 hours ago, Junx said:

Only super rich and well known people should be able to obtain such cars. For example Anna Rex, Hendricks, Casino owners etc

That's some 18th French Royalty aristocracy if I've ever seen one.

 

No, I never liked these apps from the start, simply make all cars available to everybody, locking it behind 500 walls of essays and a pitch perfect immaculate admin record is just doing this server many wrongs, what's the use of $$$ if everything is paid in essays and OOC favors? 

[Alyssa McCarthy]

I kind of agree, make super rare cars cost 3-5M or more.

 

Only the very top 1% of players will be able to afford them.

 

That solves your problem.

 

 

 

[Slou]

1 hour ago, iFlyKid said:

If a player can afford a 5M$ car then why does that person need to write a 2 page essay on how he put the vehicle into good use. Plus as a starting player you can only make 225,000$ of free money so you can start your roleplay adventure and earn more. If a player has 5+ million dollars in the bank, don't you think that player already deserved that hard earned cash? He probably found a lucrative way to make more money and why should we limit that person with a 2 page essay on why he's worthy of said vehicle. It's not like he didn't sit there for 20 minutes making up some bullshit story just so an admin can approve his lease request lol.

Pretty much this. The amount of OOC bureaucracy that goes into decisions like these is just over the top. No dealership IRL is asking anybody about their background or whether or not it makes sense for them to own the vehicle. If you have the money for it, you can just walk in and make the purchase with nothing more than some signed over paperwork. This is really a case scenario where the staff being reactive instead of proactive is the better route IMO. Instead of preventing players from accessing assets they can rightfully purchase with a wall of OOC paperwork that they'll most likely bullshit half of anyway, why not just find and punish the players who unrealistically portray their character instead? It's not like they don't make themselves glaring obvious. Like others have said, all this system really does is make it so there's even more work on the hands of the staff.

Obviously there should still be some exceptions such as certain rare super cars etc. but for the most part, anyone should be able to just buy any vehicle they want aside from any restricted/weaponized vehicles if they have the money for it without having to explain why they want it. If they can afford it, that should be more than enough reasoning to own it.

[joshua]

2 hours ago, iFlyKid said:

In my personal opinion its unneeded paperwork and more work for admins/PM to have people apply for said lease request. Why not just have them in-game and price them at a ridiculously stupid high price. 5M for this vehicle, 10M for that. If a player can afford a 5M$ car then why does that person need to write a 2 page essay on how he put the vehicle into good use. Plus as a starting player you can only make 225,000$ of free money so you can start your roleplay adventure and earn more. If a player has 5+ million dollars in the bank, don't you think that player already deserved that hard earned cash? He probably found a lucrative way to make more money and why should we limit that person with a 2 page essay on why he's worthy of said vehicle. It's not like he didn't sit there for 20 minutes making up some bullshit story just so an admin can approve his lease request lol. We already have RPQM that combs through players with unrealistic assets anyway. The whole aspect of micromanaging everything will get notoriously annoying and can demotivated people at the masses. You don't go to Ferrari's Dealership and the salesman asks you "Hey can you write me a good reason why you want this car?" If you have the dough you come out driving a Ferrari or whatever your heart makes you happy. 

 

If anything, Nervous can add a limit to the vehicles that are sold from the script dealership. Same as the component system for business. I.E. 10X of idk Ferrari. Once its gone, its GONE. You can't buy anymore until 6 months from now that a magical shipment comes with more fancy cars. That would essentially make the vehicle extremely luxurious and you won't have everyone in the server grabbing a car. 

 

 

If you have millions of dollars in the bank, god bless you, really. Enjoy your earnings. 

 

I do believe the more restrictions we apply as a community to players, the more they'll be demotivated and therefore people will just end up being so demotivating they'll stop donating and they'll find something else to play (Which btw, already happened to one of my good friends and consistent donator and she won't come back because of the sheer amount of paperwork and dedication needed on a game). For one I personally don't want to use my day off to write an essay after an essay to explain how and why I want to use up my money. We all forget at times this is a game, and yes we try to emulate real life. But there should always be a balance and for one I am heavily opposed on anything that is time consuming and not efficient even for the most veteran admin. 

 

 

That's just my two cents on this. 

absolutely awful suggestion. script cash should mean nothing as there is no sense to the pricing of things or the structure of earnings. the only people with millions are people in server facs (LEOs, GOV, JSA) that are awfully overpaid script-wise, mallrat business owners that care about nothing other than the amount of 0s in their bank, or illegal kingpins that i doubt would want to attract the kind of attention that would be attracted via buying something so valuable.

 

people should be given these vehicles if their RP shows they deserve it and it makes sense, not just because they've grinded hard enough scriptwise.

[Slou]

5 minutes ago, joshua said:

the only people with millions are people in server facs (LEOs, GOV, JSA) that are awfully overpaid script-wise, mallrat business owners that care about nothing other than the amount of 0s in their bank, or illegal kingpins that i doubt would want to attract the kind of attention that would be attracted via buying something so valuable.

So.. the people that would realistically be making salaries high enough to afford such vehicles in the first place, you mean? Sorry I don't mean to seem rude but barring the professions you just listed, really the only other people that would be able to afford assets like super cars would be famous people or people in professions like doctors, lawyers etc. anyway. You're right that script money isn't the end all be all for determining a characters value but it's still a good rough indicator of their contribution to the economy of the server both ICly and OOCly. If someone is broke scriptly but claiming to be rich, are they really? I mean I guess you could pose to be and pretend for the sake of building a story, but without cash to spend what type of RP could a "rich" person be doing? Having a script cash barrier to purchasing these types of vehicles ensures that the people getting their hands on them are people that are actively roleplaying and contributing to the server in one way or another, instead of just sitting around making OOC applications getting hand outs based on some story they pulled out of their ass 30 seconds ago that never actually happened IC.

[iFlyKid]

Honestly without derailing too much the subject of the topic here. But its a server wide issue with how the economy is handled. None of us have a business degree in economics I assume and this is something that’s relatively too familiar to what occurred on past communities like LSRP. The notion of having government agencies making a flat 40K a week or more in paychecks throws off the economy because people will naturally grind. However back to the subject of this topic however, people do make up a quick fictitious story that never really occurred in their character just so they can get granted a special vehicle. That’s not efficient and all you are really telling the player is if you write me a cute pretty story I can approve the request. 

Just make these cars super expensive and have a low count i.e 5-10 in the whole server and problem solved. 

 

Edited May 19, 2022 by iFlyKid

[Frezemis]

45 minutes ago, Alyssa McCarthy said:

I kind of agree, make super rare cars cost 3-5M or more.

 

Only the very top 1% of players will be able to afford them.

 

That solves your problem.

 

 

 

Makes people want to grind more for those cars and suddenly become homeless to just buy that one Supercar. Doesn’t solve a problem it’s creates one.

[Timzii]

5 minutes ago, Frezemis said:

Makes people want to grind more for those cars and suddenly become homeless to just buy that one Supercar. Doesn’t solve a problem it’s creates one.

You're saying as if people already aren't doing that, but instead with existing cars.

[Slou]

9 minutes ago, Frezemis said:

Makes people want to grind more for those cars and suddenly become homeless to just buy that one Supercar. Doesn’t solve a problem it’s creates one.

 

51 minutes ago, Slou said:

This is really a case scenario where the staff being reactive instead of proactive is the better route IMO. Instead of preventing players from accessing assets they can rightfully purchase with a wall of OOC paperwork that they'll most likely bullshit half of anyway, why not just find and punish the players who unrealistically portray their character instead? It's not like they don't make themselves glaring obvious.

Super cars should be uncommon enough especially with such a high script $$$ barrier that surely anyone owning one, staff would be able to keep an eye on? Surely there's a way for y'all to see on your end if someone owns a super high value asset like a super car but no property or business etc. and that would raise red flags on unrealistic character development.

Edited May 19, 2022 by Slou