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1 minute ago, i dont wanna od in LA said:

Has anybody tried it tho? Get a m4 carbine from a weapon supplier, get arrested with it and go contest it in court. It's compliant with NFA most likely, so one way or another they're in reality legal. I realize that this is some kinda backward logic here but has anybody done that? Like, you simply can't complain about it if you haven't done anything. 

It'll have nothing to do with it being NFA or not.

 

It's got everything to do with Nervous saying that they wouldn't put semi auto rifles in because he basically didn't trust the server to not fuck it up.

 

Thus, no matter what you do IC, it'll never be justified.

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3 minutes ago, SaintBatemanofWallStreet said:

It'll have nothing to do with it being NFA or not.

 

It's got everything to do with Nervous saying that they wouldn't put semi auto rifles in because he basically didn't trust the server to not fuck it up.

 

Thus, no matter what you do IC, it'll never be justified.

I mean honestly since we're portraying California it does kinda make sense. ARs are more or less banned in Cali (https://giffords.org/lawcenter/state-laws/assault-weapons-in-california/), unless you wanna roll around with a 10 round mag lol 

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Just now, i dont wanna od in LA said:

Has anybody tried it tho? Get a m4 carbine from a weapon supplier, get arrested with it and go contest it in court. It's compliant with NFA most likely, so one way or another they're in reality legal. I realize that this is some kinda backward logic here but has anybody done that? Like, you simply can't complain about it if you haven't done anything. 

the problem with this is that there are no mechanisms on the server referencing or utilizing the NFA.  those firearms require registration through the federal government, which this server doesn't regulate, the FLD doesn't accommodate, and the additions to the SHAFT act don't cover.

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nothing in the legislation requires FLD to coordinate issuance of prohibited firearms, either.

from what I've been told from the few senators i've spoken to about the issue, the actual problem is overbearing management, which has to be addressed oocly by the community.  all ic efforts to make change have been oocly suppressed.

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3 minutes ago, Sentryzu said:

the problem with this is that there are no mechanisms on the server referencing or utilizing the NFA.  those firearms require registration through the federal government, which this server doesn't regulate, the FLD doesn't accommodate, and the additions to the SHAFT act don't cover.

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nothing in the legislation requires FLD to coordinate issuance of prohibited firearms, either.

from what I've been told from the few senators i've spoken to about the issue, the actual problem is overbearing management, which has to be addressed oocly by the community.  all ic efforts to make change have been oocly suppressed.

to touch up on this, no. NFA as a federal act is generally a tier above state law (there's no laws nullifying it on the server) so if you brought it up in court upon being arrested with an AR you could easily dispute that. whereas yes what the management does heavily influence the gun laws theres still plenty that can be done via ic means. once again i'd like to refer you to those two cases 
https://forum.gta.world/en/topic/60025-gregory-walker-v-los-santos-police-department-los-santos-city-government-chief-of-los-santos-police-mayor-of-los-santos-et-al/
https://forum.gta.world/en/topic/58847-petition-for-review-gregory-walker-v-state-of-san-andreas-and-governor-of-san-andreas/

 

 

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11 minutes ago, i dont wanna od in LA said:

I mean honestly since we're portraying California it does kinda make sense. ARs are more or less banned in Cali (https://giffords.org/lawcenter/state-laws/assault-weapons-in-california/), unless you wanna roll around with a 10 round mag lol 

So I worked in the gun business for a while. 

 

On paper, it's illegal. But there are copious loopholes. Not to mention that you can buy rifles in states contiguous to your own. So a quick trip over the border to another state, and you can buy them. And then there's the whole bullet button set of guns.

 

Also, I didn't keep up with it, but I know their mag ban got struck down in the Supreme Court some time last year, or maybe the year before.

 

  

5 minutes ago, i dont wanna od in LA said:

to touch up on this, no. NFA as a federal act is generally a tier above state law (there's no laws nullifying it on the server) so if you brought it up in court upon being arrested with an AR you could easily dispute that. whereas yes what the management does heavily influence the gun laws theres still plenty that can be done via ic means. once again i'd like to refer you to those two cases 

 

Also if a state outlaws a certain weapon, then NFA doesn't apply. The states have the ability to govern themselves. Banning a certain gun has been basically in some liberal states been ruled not a violation of the 2A.

 

And while it is, the lawmakers in those backwards states have agreed it's not. And it's very expensive to take that litigation all the way to the USSC.

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10 hours ago, SaintBatemanofWallStreet said:

So I worked in the gun business for a while. 

 

On paper, it's illegal. But there are copious loopholes. Not to mention that you can buy rifles in states contiguous to your own. So a quick trip over the border to another state, and you can buy them. And then there's the whole bullet button set of guns.

 

Also, I didn't keep up with it, but I know their mag ban got struck down in the Supreme Court some time last year, or maybe the year before.

 

  

 

Also if a state outlaws a certain weapon, then NFA doesn't apply. The states have the ability to govern themselves. Banning a certain gun has been basically in some liberal states been ruled not a violation of the 2A.

 

And while it is, the lawmakers in those backwards states have agreed it's not. And it's very expensive to take that litigation all the way to the USSC.

this. there are loopholes to everything the ATF governs plus state mandates. that's why gun stores sell california and new york legal semi automatic rifles for purchase. although the state does ban certain weapons, it can be seen as an infringement of federal rights and the supreme court can strike it down see: https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/06/05/california-assault-weapons-ban-overturned/ all it really takes is for a team of legal experts to challenge it.

 

but at the end of a day, its a game and you have to have a certain restriction which I understand, with the ATFs new online forms I can manufacture me own suppressor from a catch can for two hundred bucks. obviously, you can't do that on this server for oblivious reasons.

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