Character Design & Hiding behind Offensive Roleplay Rules

[BINGBONGBALONEY]

Just now, NickyW said:

Example A is an offensive word or phrase. Example B is an offensive word or phrase.

 

No one is watching it lmao it's text. They are definitionally the same thing. Vulgar text.

 

1 hour ago, NickyW said:

so rape is banned. Good. That's good. Sure. But as for everything else?

Least keep your drivel constituent buddy, come on.

[moD]

I support this fully. One of my characters was working at a deli and encountered an individual who was apart of FD and had arrested him for 30 minutes over something incredibly petty. As a result, he decided to spit in his sandwich. The dude complained that he felt "extremely uncomfortable" eating a sandwich laced with saliva and decided to report it. The scene was forcefully voided and I missed out on potential roleplay. People hide behind this rule for petty situations and I think it's outrageous considering the type of roleplaying that happens in a public space 24/7. A fight between two individuals would probably be more "offensive" than someone getting their sandwich spat in. 

[Fancy Toothpaste]

5 minutes ago, NickyW said:

 

They literally are.

 

They are both the exact same tier of vulgarity. 

 

Example A is an offensive word or phrase. Example B is an offensive word or phrase.

 

No one is watching it lmao it's text. They are definitionally the same thing. Vulgar text.

 

I have no idea what you were thinking responding like that lol

Holy shit, bro, you're right. There's literally no difference between my character saying fuck and me writing paragraph upon paragraph of flaying the skin from some dudes scrotum. All words are exactly the same and always convey the same meaning. Sticks and stones may break my bones but words can never hurt me.

Edited July 11, 2021 by Fancy Toothpaste
sarcasm.

[jcat]

1 minute ago, moD said:

an individual who was apart of FD and had arrested him for 30 minutes over something incredibly petty.

 

Abuse of govt power rp ftw.

[NickyW]

3 minutes ago, BINGBONGGHOST said:

 

Least keep your drivel constituent buddy, come on.

 

You mean consistent.

 

But while I'm teaching you words, allow me to teach you another one.

 

Nuance.

 

Arguments, discussions, and the rules determined by them are not binary. Exceptions exist. 

 

@Fancy Toothpaste I would be absolutely sickened and traumatized if I were to witness somebody stab someone in the balls with an ice pick. But do you notice how I'm able to reference and discuss it as a theoretical without cringing physically and throwing my keyboard across the screen? This is the whole 'being able to handle mature content' thing I'm talking about. 

 

You're allowed to be sensitive. You're allowed to be disgusted by things. But if you're willingly participating in a world where that sort of thing can happen, you should be expected to be able to handle text-descriptions of those things, especially if you're willing to directly cause the situation.

 

Remember, we're not talking about offensive RP in general in this thread. We're discussing people who routinely kill people, participate in crimes etc, and then get upset when they get their comeuppance. No innocent balls are being flayed, here.

Edited July 11, 2021 by NickyW

[BINGBONGBALONEY]

4 minutes ago, NickyW said:

 

You mean consistent.

 

But while I'm teaching you words, allow me to teach you another one.

 

Nuance.

 

Arguments, discussions, and the rules determined by them are not binary. Exceptions exist. 

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[Petey]

1 hour ago, NickyW said:

So rape is banned. Good. That's good. Sure. But as for everything else?

 

 

All I'm going to say is that the game you're playing is rated M.

 

If you're not mature enough to handle mature content; if it makes you feel "icky" or "triggered", then you shouldn't be here. 

 

That's why games have a rating system. You can always go RP on GMod or Habbo.

 

This 

[Fancy Toothpaste]

52 minutes ago, NickyW said:

@Fancy Toothpaste I would be absolutely sickened and traumatized if I were to witness somebody stab someone in the balls with an ice pick. But do you notice how I'm able to reference and discuss it as a theoretical without cringing physically and throwing my keyboard across the screen?

 

Congratulations? I don't know what to tell you, dude, so I'll just say what I said on page 2 when this discussion really took off and on page 4 where I reiterated in greater detail.

 

Your entire argument boils down to, "It's just words! Words can't hurt me, how could they possibly hurt you?"

 

It's called different strokes for different folks, dude. It's called people having different life expriences, and different levels of what they're comfortable with exploring through roleplay.

 

In real life, I once saw a dude get his arm mangled by the rotor blade of a boat. It was squirting blood and hanging by tendrils of flesh and muscle.

 

I'd be personally fine going through a scene where someone chopped my character's limb off (assuming it was good from a narrative perspective) but I couldn't blame someone for wanting to opt out if they had a similar experience to myself.

 

What you're purposong is to take the breaks off the car because people are engaging in a certain avenue if roleplay? Because the game is rated M and bad things happen in real life so we have to emulate that?

 

The offensive roleplay rules exist for a reason and should be applied equally no matter the "type" of character someone plays. Rules need to be applied equally, else they are easily skirted and abused.

 

To conjur up the examples made in the original post; Just because I play an escort doesn't mean I want to watch my character be raped so someone can fulfill their sexual power fantasy. Just because my character is a criminal, doesn't mean I want to sit through hours upon hours of text in which people do whatever they feel like to my character so the person behind the screen can fulfill their perfect Edgar Allan Poe revenge fantasy.

 

No one is opting out of consequences. Being killed and removed from a roleplay situation either through PK or CK is enough punishment in most situations. If you suddenly give people a license to torture every single criminal character on server because, "They roleplay doing bad things, that means he's fine if I do literally anything and everything to them!" Then you'll just end up with people torturing eachother willy nilly and no way to stop it because you've stripped members of the community of a very vital protection.

 

Removing people's consent and agency in the situation arbitrarily is not the answer to anything. You feel like people are hiding behind the current rules? Report them and share your evidence with the administration. Until then, this thread is just chasing shadows and making mountains out of mole-hills.

 

You've got the right to think of people who can dish it but can't take it as poor roleplayers. That's your right. You don't have the right to assert offensive roleplay onto others no matter how many ways you try to rationalize it.

 

This will probably be my last reply to you, and the thread since I've said the same thing three times over.

[jcat]

22 minutes ago, Petey said:

This 

 

What about the children, waaaaah.  They have every right to be here, waaaaah.  Everyone adapt to them even though they knowingly entered a rated M+ environment, waaaaah.

 

But seriously, let's not force rp on each other.  Only cops and criminals are allowed to do that, waaaaah. Oh, and firefighters, wah.

 

Note: not directed at the Petey, it's criticism of those overused threadbare arguments.

 

54 minutes ago, NickyW said:

We're discussing people who routinely kill people, participate in crimes etc, and then get upset when they get their comeuppance.

 

And these people who misuse the rule protecting the rest us of from some sick shit weaken that rule.  That must never be allowed to happen.

 

55 minutes ago, NickyW said:

No innocent balls are being flayed, here.

 

That's refreshing.  I wish I could fade to black during tough guy cop rp.  It's so boring it feels like innocent balls are being flayed.

[jcat]

4 minutes ago, Fancy Toothpaste said:

Removing people's consent and agency in the situation arbitrarily is not the answer to anything. You feel like people are hiding behind the current rules? Report them and share your evidence with the administration.

 

Pushing staff to consider this as rule abuse covering poor rp might be a good way to curb this behavior.  Another idea is refusing to accept rp unless the inflicting player agrees to accept similar rp in return, and then send a screenshot to faction management so faction management can keep a record.