What are your thoughts on the servers casino/gambling roleplay?

[Yoak]

6 minutes ago, MartosG said:

think you guys are making it seem far worse than it actually is.

not at all, people drink, intereact with others, its not silent

7 minutes ago, MartosG said:

The truth is, the scripts for the games are so automatic that no interactions are even necessary.

exactly, thats the issue

[tadopkok]

I don't see any sense in creating a GTA online server where players can play only casino games. Why would anyone play on those servers if you can play casinos on any other server in the game. It seems to me like creating two different websites for betting. One for betting on NFL and one for betting on NBA. It is absurd, you can easily do both things on the same website, and it has numerous disadvantages to using this method. But I am just a regular player of the game, and maybe the game creators have another opinion about this.

[shaobadman]

On 6/1/2021 at 10:17 PM, Power said:

Going to be honest just spent 2-3 days at an IRL Casino/Resort last week for an event its not that much different. Was like only my second time at a Casino and I notice people seem like drones. Just sitting infront of the slots or poker table barely any emotion almost autonomous. People don't go to Casino for the riveting company.

yeah, in game i've only been to rockford casino and it feels immersive enough

 

i was at a table with several other people playing blackjack, everyone cheered each other on and had some chatter, overall a good time

On 6/3/2021 at 5:04 PM, Trupiano said:

Jokes on you, my retarded ass made $500 on the islanders the other night. Stay mad.

9/10 times the people who criticise any kind of betting/gambling are the ones who lose at it or are too afraid to have fun with it but that's another subject

On 6/4/2021 at 6:26 PM, MartosG said:

Reading all these comments, I'm not sure how many of you have been to an actual casino to feel the atmosphere. It's quiet, calm, and everyone focuses on their game, not a lot of interactions going on. Sure, I agree, it could always be improved but I think you guys are making it seem far worse than it actually is. 

 

The truth is, the scripts for the games are so automatic that no interactions are even necessary. A step towards improvement of the RP in casinos would be to re-master the game scripts, especially for poker since there is no dealer necessary, which I think is an important thing to have.

i'm not really sure what most of these people expect from a casino, this is pretty much how it goes

 

bar the improvements you mentioned, or requiring the dealer to speak more before starting the next game, i can't see much that can be done about it, some people are here with actual improvements for casinos and others seem to be complaining about it like it shouldn't exist on the server at all

[Aquila]

Card games need /ame's for the audience.

[Narco]

On 6/1/2021 at 1:53 AM, Koko said:

I think they're an entire OOC parallel system to the server and they encourage throwaway characters to abuse the starter 200k to try their luck at making money before they even begin to RP. At best they are a minigame, at worst they're damaging to the server.

 

Whatever RP they may generate once in a full moon is completely overshadowed by the system itself.

Pretty much this, I feel as if you should be required to have x amount of playing hours before able to enter a casino. There's a few players that are constantly in casino's gambling hundreds and thousands of dollars, meanwhile outside of the casino? they roleplay a davis gangbanger that somehow has over 400 grand not even from drug dealing. I feel as if there needs to be stricter rules on portayal in casino's as well as casino characters being banned. I've constantly encountered a few individuals which will join a table together as friends, they join in with over 400-500k, and they constantly just raise before the flop every single time, knowing that most people aren't rich and will fold, giving them 1k each time. Another trick they use is going all in when they have something, knowing their friend has nothing because they're most likely on discord, sharing screens / cards, so they'll tell each other when to go all in, when to fold, or when to "troll" the game basically by being the last two in due to the fact everyone folded and just check instead of raising because they're friends, or eventually give each other the cash back at the end of the game. Poker is very flawed and is VERY easy to be metagamed. I've seen multiple players sneakily metagaming over discord just by their actions which is very hard to prove although very easy to spot if you're a seasoned poker player. The poker system needs redoing and definitely needs preventative measures towards metagaming. I'm not sure how this could be done but it's very needed that poker is put to a stop until these issues are fixed. I personally have won over $500,000 by figuring out individuals patterns that cheat and have used it against them.

 

Your average joe isn't going to go in a casino, pay a five thousand dollar fee just to gamble in a tournament, which most casinos charge a fee just to play poker which is only accurate for tournaments. No casino charges solely to "play poker" it's a unrealistic and a sham that a lot of management use. There's many issues which are partially portrayal issues that come into play here. 

 

Fix le poker. 

 

 

 

 

wanted to add some of my screenshots of my winnings just to show how broken poker can be by manipulating other individuals by learning their playing patterns due to the fact that the probabilities of suits are way too high for some reason in the poker script.

 

 

Here you can see how broken the flop of the cards are

 

 

 

 

Edited August 8, 2021 by LoLo.Jpg

[shaobadman]

3 minutes ago, LoLo.Jpg said:

Pretty much this, I feel as if you should be required to have x amount of playing hours before able to enter a casino. There's a few players that are constantly in casino's gambling hundreds and thousands of dollars, meanwhile outside of the casino? they roleplay a davis gangbanger that somehow has over 400 grand not even from drug dealing. I feel as if there needs to be stricter rules on portayal in casino's as well as casino characters being banned. I've constantly encountered a few individuals which will join a table together as friends, they join in with over 400-500k, and they constantly just raise before the flop every single time, knowing that most people aren't rich and will fold, giving them 1k each time. Another trick they use is going all in when they have something, knowing their friend has nothing because they're most likely on discord, sharing screens / cards, so they'll tell each other when to go all in, when to fold, or when to "troll" the game basically by being the last two in due to the fact everyone folded and just check instead of raising because they're friends, or eventually give each other the cash back at the end of the game. Poker is very flawed and is VERY easy to be metagamed. I've seen multiple players sneakily metagaming over discord just by their actions which is very hard to prove although very easy to spot if you're a seasoned poker player. The poker system needs redoing and definitely needs preventative measures towards metagaming. I'm not sure how this could be done but it's very needed that poker is put to a stop until these issues are fixed. I personally have won over $500,000 by figuring out individuals patterns that cheat and have used it against them.

 

Your average joe isn't going to go in a casino, pay a five thousand dollar fee just to gamble in a tournament, which most casinos charge a fee just to play poker which is only accurate for tournaments. No casino charges solely to "play poker" it's a unrealistic and a sham that a lot of management use. There's many issues which are partially portrayal issues that come into play here. 

 

Fix le poker. 

do you have any opinions on blackjack? i've only played it once in the server and had a good time

[Narco]

1 minute ago, shaobadman said:

do you have any opinions on blackjack? i've only played it once in the server and had a good time

I haven't played enough blackjack to have an opinion on it although I do know from experience I've lost a lot more on it than I've gained. 

[Aquila]

6 minutes ago, LoLo.Jpg said:

Pretty much this, I feel as if you should be required to have x amount of playing hours before able to enter a casino. There's a few players that are constantly in casino's gambling hundreds and thousands of dollars, meanwhile outside of the casino? they roleplay a davis gangbanger that somehow has over 400 grand not even from drug dealing. I feel as if there needs to be stricter rules on portayal in casino's as well as casino characters being banned. I've constantly encountered a few individuals which will join a table together as friends, they join in with over 400-500k, and they constantly just raise before the flop every single time, knowing that most people aren't rich and will fold, giving them 1k each time. Another trick they use is going all in when they have something, knowing their friend has nothing because they're most likely on discord, sharing screens / cards, so they'll tell each other when to go all in, when to fold, or when to "troll" the game basically by being the last two in due to the fact everyone folded and just check instead of raising because they're friends, or eventually give each other the cash back at the end of the game. Poker is very flawed and is VERY easy to be metagamed. I've seen multiple players sneakily metagaming over discord just by their actions which is very hard to prove although very easy to spot if you're a seasoned poker player. The poker system needs redoing and definitely needs preventative measures towards metagaming. I'm not sure how this could be done but it's very needed that poker is put to a stop until these issues are fixed. I personally have won over $500,000 by figuring out individuals patterns that cheat and have used it against them.

 

Your average joe isn't going to go in a casino, pay a five thousand dollar fee just to gamble in a tournament, which most casinos charge a fee just to play poker which is only accurate for tournaments. No casino charges solely to "play poker" it's a unrealistic and a sham that a lot of management use. There's many issues which are partially portrayal issues that come into play here. 

 

Fix le poker. 

 

I feel like there's only a handful of people who would go to casinos for the RP and character building experience, while the remainder (vast majority) care only about money. Obviously people enter casinos in real life to get money, and in this server it's supposed to be like that IC too, but OOC needs and desires seem to fuel people's choices.

 

Blackjack, as @shaobadman mentioned, is pretty cool. Haven't tried poker yet. I'd like to be like the famous Greek-American, the Great Dandolos, one day with gambling.

[TinPan]

Casino’s are great spots for unique roleplay. They offer a lot to the server in terms of job opportunities and general interactions.

 

Currently though, the fucked stare of the economy just doesn’t make it fun. One man with 500k in his bank account can bankrupt other players and dealers in under one game. Alternatively, even the worst and most scummy of roleplayers can earn 500k overnight if they know what they’re doing.

 

For roleplay, it’s great; but the current state of the servers economy has fucked casinos for new players & characters on the server.

[Aquila]

On 6/4/2021 at 5:43 PM, Tony White said:

What roleplay? 

 

Most people sit there, gamble and not say a word. 

 

This needs to change. I played blackjack on one of my characters with a couple other people, and all of us talked and roleplayed during each and every game. It isn't that hard, but it's clear that some people want to just rush their games for that cash flow.