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1 minute ago, Pillsbury said:

Appreciate it! We love working with yall in SD. All of you have been nothing but amazing to us, and our working relationships both on an IC and OOC note are amazing. Thank you 🙂

You just wait once I'm out of my probationary period, those forests are mine fool. I need some solid body finds and dope stashes, trying to get into that detectives path 😄  

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On 6/11/2021 at 1:30 PM, balenciaga said:

Where was I hostile? I simply said it is retarded in my opinion. And that this server needs DoC more than Park Rangers since prisons are more active and LSSD is not around there a lot. I’ve been there many times and there is only 1 faction operating in that area and some hunters aka it is quite dead area. It is under discussions for a reason, no?

The Park Rangers are unique in the fact that they offer the incentive of more people going out to State Parks and Forests, and being able to interact with LEOs that for the most part (if you aren't doing anything weird) are just going to stop and have a chat with you. There's been a definite increase in outdoors activities going on in recent weeks since SAPR has been more active, with people going on hikes on Chilliad, County residents calling the SAPR landline to deal with boar and coyotes that walk into residential areas, campers that go to pitch up tents in the wild to spend the night...

 

SAPR has its place in encouraging and reminding the server about other avenues of RP beyond civilization. In fact, I've seen a lot more hikers and campers than hunters lately, and people are reaching out to the Park Rangers and seem to be developing a fondness for them because they're mostly non-threatening officers that are there to help color their RP and their little adventures out in State Parks. It's not about the people the faction serves, it's about the RP it encourages. And so far, it's working as far as I can see.

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Hi I didn't want to scan nine pages so I was just wondering if someone from the faction, either low ranking or high ranking could answer a single, pretty basic question for me 🙂

 

Why do SAPR agents/members/troopers try to conduct traffic stops for people breaking minor/major traffic laws?

 

If someone could @ me and I don't mean any disrespect to the faction, just genuinely curious.

 

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12 minutes ago, Yoak said:

Hi I didn't want to scan nine pages so I was just wondering if someone from the faction, either low ranking or high ranking could answer a single, pretty basic question for me 🙂

 

Why do SAPR agents/members/troopers try to conduct traffic stops for people breaking minor/major traffic laws?

 

If someone could @ me and I don't mean any disrespect to the faction, just genuinely curious.

 

That's not disrespectful at all, we all are happy to answer any questions and concerns!
First of, we are to be addressed as Ranger.

SAPR, like the irl counterpart of California State Parks Peace Officer, is a Law Enforcement Agency where members hold full LEO powers. You could, probably, picture them like the LSSD/LSPD but in parks and forests (albeit with some restrictions as they can't conduct criminal investigations like Detectives do, no SWAT-type stuff, etc afaik). Within the jurisdiction, the SAPR can do pretty much what SD/PD does to full extend, this includes performing traffic stops, pursuing, investigating, etc.
Outside of the jurisdiction, they hold limited LEO powers but are peace officers regardless and we can and will react to crimes if absolutely necessary (someone poses a threat to public, someone drives dangerously, etc etc) provided that the LSSD is informed and called to.

I hope this answers your questions. 🙂

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2 minutes ago, thekillergreece said:

First of, we are to be addressed as Ranger.

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3 minutes ago, thekillergreece said:

SAPR, like the irl counterpart of California State Parks Peace Officer, is a Law Enforcement Agency where members hold full LEO powers. You could, probably, picture them like the LSSD/LSPD but in parks and forests (albeit with some restrictions as they can't conduct criminal investigations like Detectives do, no SWAT-type stuff, etc afaik). Within the jurisdiction, the SAPR can do pretty much what SD/PD does to full extend, this includes performing traffic stops, pursuing, investigating, etc.
Outside of the jurisdiction, they hold limited LEO powers but are peace officers regardless and we can and will react to crimes if absolutely necessary (someone poses a threat to public, someone drives dangerously, etc etc) provided that the LSSD is informed and called to.

The only issue I see here is that there was no need for a third LEO faction to go around doing traffic stops, I thought this was purely & strictly for the addition of hunting? I'm sure if it was suggested to the server as another LEO faction doing T stops and what not, it'd have not made it by LFM since LSPD & LSSD handle that, no?

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2 minutes ago, Yoak said:

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The only issue I see here is that there was no need for a third LEO faction to go around doing traffic stops, I thought this was purely & strictly for the addition of hunting? I'm sure if it was suggested to the server as another LEO faction doing T stops and what not, it'd have not made it by LFM since LSPD & LSSD handle that, no?

Our purpose isn't primarily to do traffic stops (unless it's directly within our jurisdiction), but we have authority to do them. You're right that our main purpose is Hunting & Fishing, but we are meant to stop flagrant offenses.

 

Like all LEOs, you'll find individual members who are more likely than others to light you up. I have yet to conduct a single traffic stop after a month in the faction 

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Just now, Koko said:

Our purpose isn't primarily to do traffic stops (unless it's directly within our jurisdiction), but we have authority to do them. You're right that our main purpose is Hunting & Fishing, but we are meant to stop flagrant offenses.

 

Like all LEOs, you'll find individual members who are more likely than others to light you up. I have yet to conduct a single traffic stop after a month in the faction 

That's my only issue is why is there ANOTHER LEO faction that can conduct stops, the server doesn't need it and would it not be easier for that power to be removed? You've got people who go through LSPD/LSSD training to conduct patrols etc, just seems odd to me why you have SAPR people doing t stops fullstop when there a place for them to do so.

 

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4 minutes ago, Yoak said:

That's my only issue is why is there ANOTHER LEO faction that can conduct stops, the server doesn't need it and would it not be easier for that power to be removed? You've got people who go through LSPD/LSSD training to conduct patrols etc, just seems odd to me why you have SAPR people doing t stops fullstop when there a place for them to do so.

 

If you see any of us going out of our way to enforce traffic laws & other minor law enforcement duties outside of the state parks, please take screenshots and forward it to the leader of the faction as that is heavily frowned upon. We're only supposed to be enforcing those inside our own parks, which is perfectly reasonable and understandable. However, if we see someone that's putting other peoples lives at risk outside of the parks, we're gonna stop them, however we are required to get SD to take over if we stop anyone outside of the parks. SAPR isn't taking any LEO RP away from any of the other departments.

 

There's no negative side to having SAPR around, plus, it's no secret that the county has been lacking on LEO presence for the last few months to begin with. I'm sorry, and I mean no disrespect, but I just don't see the logic behind removing all of SAPR's LEO powers just because "there's already 2 LEO factions". SAPR is good for the server, I don't see how it "isn't needed". If you're racing around and breaking the law in the state parks, you're going to be pulled over by a Park Ranger. Just like you would IRL. Don't break the law, and you won't be pulled over.

 

The fact that there are two main LEO factions as is holds no play, to be perfectly frank with you. 

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1 minute ago, PeopleKind said:

If you're racing around and breaking the law in the state parks, you're going to be pulled over by a Park Ranger. Just like you would IRL. Don't break the law, and you won't be pulled over.

Yeah so stay there and enforce the traffic laws there? not on the highways? Also I'd love to add I haven't been pulled from you guys, just saw a clip and it sparked curiosity! Keep it up tho fellas 🙂

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15 minutes ago, Yoak said:

That's my only issue is why is there ANOTHER LEO faction that can conduct stops, the server doesn't need it and would it not be easier for that power to be removed? You've got people who go through LSPD/LSSD training to conduct patrols etc, just seems odd to me why you have SAPR people doing t stops fullstop when there a place for them to do so.

 

Of a whole month, I only conducted 2-3 traffic stops over traffic infractions (excluding misdemeanor/felony crimes) within the jurisdiction. Of course, if we compare our traffic stop rate vs PD/SD, the difference would be huge.

 

Moving on, one thing you need to know is, we are peace officers just like the SD and PD. We get trained exactly the same stuff PD/SD trains you during academies, which includes traffic stops, felony stops, pursuits, EVOC, shooting range and so many more. During the FTP, we get trained about law knowledge (there are so many caselaws we learn that are mindblowing), departmental procedures, radio protocols, pursuits, traffic stops, patrols and many more.

Yes, our main focus is hunting and fishing laws but, if someone commits a crime (ie. reckless driving, etc) within our jurisdiction, what do you propose? Ignore them and hope they will not run someone over within our jurisdiction? Call SD and hope they will respond within 2 mins (half of our calls are ignored/disregarded or take 5+ minutes for a single unit to respond)?

I'm not sure why it's a sudden problem for the SAPR, a full LEO agency, to perform basic LEO duties. In fact, the SAPR has received nothing but positive feedback on their duties. The LFM, including Nervous (afaik) is aware that the SAPR is a LEO faction, albeit taking on a more auxiliary role (specialised police).
 

  

Just now, Yoak said:

Yeah so stay there and enforce the traffic laws there? not on the highways? Also I'd love to add I haven't been pulled from you guys, just saw a clip and it sparked curiosity! Keep it up tho fellas 🙂

Nah, we don't monitor highways unless someone poses an active threat to public like, running someone over, driving dangerously, etc. 

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