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55 minutes ago, maramizo said:

No Escape: Male Rape in U.S. Prisons - Wikipedia

 

I don't really buy into this narrative of "everyone's homophobic in jail". Everyone acts homophobic in jail. No one wants to ever even be looked at as a homosexual, or they'll immediately be objectified; that doesn't mean they don't engage in homosexual activities in jail themselves.

 

I mean, guys stay in there for ages... what do you think they do, surrounded by dudes, for ages?

 

In that sense, I agree with this post. Homophobia on this server is always almost consistently demonstrated in a trollish fashion, where people just want to sound edgy out of boredom rather than interesting out of insight. Then again, you can't really be a homophobe without being an actual troll in the first place, unless if you're roleplaying a religious character.

Men that rape other men, within prison, are heavily shunned on by general population. They usually don't roll with a Car and are isolated from every one else. At least for the Black and Hispanic cars. If you're caught SITTING with a homosexual? You're perceived to be "their bitch"... simple as that... they consider it questionable and perceive you to be both weak and an easy target.

What does the average person do, in prison? They purchase overpriced porn magazines and masturbate in the showers or by the toilet.

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1 hour ago, DavideMac said:

Basic female characters who all have big boobs and big butts and they're super fit and just idk, apparently super hot girls, see them way too much that it breaks the immersion occasionally or is just LS a city of busty women? Reading some /ex is just so cringy sometimes

What's wrong with this:
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48 minutes ago, DLimit said:

Men that rape other men, within prison, are heavily shunned on by general population. They usually don't roll with a Car and are isolated from every one else. At least for the Black and Hispanic cars. If you're caught SITTING with a homosexual? You're perceived to be "their bitch"... simple as that... they consider it questionable and perceive you to be both weak and an easy target.

What does the average person do, in prison? They purchase overpriced porn magazines and masturbate in the showers or by the toilet.

What's your source? 

 

"In a survey of 1,788 male inmates in Midwestern prisons by Prison Journal, about 21% claimed they had been coerced or pressured into sexual activity during their incarceration, and 7% claimed that they had been raped in their current facility." — Struckman-Johnson, Cindy; Struckman-Johnson, David (2016). "Sexual Coercion Rates in Seven Midwestern Prison Facilities for Men"

 

"Between 2011 and 2015, the increase in allegations and substantiated incidents of sexual victimization occurred across all types of correctional facilities. The number of allegations in prisons increased 180 percent (from 6,660 to 18,666), and the number in jails increased 184 percent (from 2,047 to 5,809). The number of substantiated incidents in jails more than doubled, from 284 in 2011 to 576 in 2015, while the number of substantiated incidents in prisons rose 44 percent, from 605 to 873." — Bureau of Justice Statistics

 

I think most people on this server have a childish view of what actually goes down in prison.

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7 minutes ago, maramizo said:

What's your source? 

 

"In a survey of 1,788 male inmates in Midwestern prisons by Prison Journal, about 21% claimed they had been coerced or pressured into sexual activity during their incarceration, and 7% claimed that they had been raped in their current facility." — Struckman-Johnson, Cindy; Struckman-Johnson, David (2016). "Sexual Coercion Rates in Seven Midwestern Prison Facilities for Men"

 

"Between 2011 and 2015, the increase in allegations and substantiated incidents of sexual victimization occurred across all types of correctional facilities. The number of allegations in prisons increased 180 percent (from 6,660 to 18,666), and the number in jails increased 184 percent (from 2,047 to 5,809). The number of substantiated incidents in jails more than doubled, from 284 in 2011 to 576 in 2015, while the number of substantiated incidents in prisons rose 44 percent, from 605 to 873." — Bureau of Justice Statistics

 

I think most people on this server have a childish view of what actually goes down in prison.

Sex crimes in general are heavily frowned upon by the inmate populations of many states, but this disdain for sex crimes is magnified in California. Not only that, but the Mexican Mafia (Along with the white prison gangs) have rules that strictly prohibit homosexuality / rape.

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Just now, Garras Up said:

Sex crimes in general are heavily frowned upon by the inmate populations of many states, but this disdain for sex crimes is magnified in California. Not only that, but the Mexican Mafia (Along with the white prison gangs) have rules that strictly prohibit homosexuality / rape.

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"Government officials state that there are currently 400–500 official members of the Mexican Mafia with around 1,000 associates who also carry out its illegal activities in the hopes of becoming full members."

 

La eMe is irrelevant. Three times as much males alone as the entirety of la eMe get raped in a facility on a yearly basis.

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16 minutes ago, maramizo said:

"Government officials state that there are currently 400–500 official members of the Mexican Mafia with around 1,000 associates who also carry out its illegal activities in the hopes of becoming full members."

 

La eMe is irrelevant. Three times as much males alone as the entirety of la eMe get raped in a facility on a yearly basis.

This is flat out incorrect on many levels. La eMe is still very relevant, if not the most relevant prison gang overall. And second to that, rape in correctional settings has lots of rampant rumors about it in the public which are not true, it does happen everywhere, but it is rather rare. Doesn't matter where you go in the US, unless you're on some sort of PC or SNY yard, there is a very high chance you will be attacked for any sort of sex crime, whether committed inside the facility or outside of it.

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Just now, Midwest said:

This is flat out incorrect on many levels. La eMe is still very relevant, if not the most relevant prison gang overall. And second to that, rape in correctional settings has lots of rampant rumors about it in the public which are not true, it does happen everywhere, but it is rather rare. Doesn't matter where you go in the US, unless you're on some sort of PC or SNY yard, there is a very high chance you will be attacked for any sort of sex crime, whether committed inside the facility or outside of it.

On la eMe: It was not an opinion, it was a statistical fact.

On attacks and various consequences: Irrelevant to the fact that they occur and are a part of prison culture at this point.

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Just a finale and a conclusion to this argument, because I'm not sure where everyone's getting their facts:

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A vibrant mythology of prison sex is part of our cultural landscape. Yet, scant research exists on the prevalence or frequency of consensual sexual behavior among prisoners. Research conducted in the New Jersey State Prison in the 1950s found that guards identified 35 percent of prisoners as having engaged in homosexual acts Controlling Consensual Sex Among Prisoners 597 (Sykes 1958, 72). Consensual sex still occurs in today’s prisons, yet contemporary research is troubled by a lack of conformity in measurement across the few empirical studies focusing on consensual prison sex. Findings reveal a wide range, from 14 percent to 65 percent, of prisoners who have engaged in consensual sex while incarcerated (Hensley and Tewksbury 2002).3 The Bureau of Justice Statistics (2008, 2009) found that 7 percent of inmates sampled classified themselves as homosexual or bisexual. Thus, at a bare minimum, well over 100,000 prisoners are at risk of punishment associated with sexual misconduct rule violations. These estimates are almost certainly biased low.

— 597-598, Borchert-2016-Law_&_Social_Inquiry.pdf (umich.edu)

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11 minutes ago, maramizo said:

On la eMe: It was not an opinion, it was a statistical fact.

On attacks and various consequences: Irrelevant to the fact that they occur and are a part of prison culture at this point.

This is factually incorrect though, as per both. You say eme is irrelevant and thats a "statistical fact", how many members does an organization need in your eyes to be relevant? Cause those few hundred guys have authority of over 100,000 gang members just in California alone https://losangeles.networkofcare.org/pr/library/article.aspx?id=1809.

And, you bring up the statistics argument, but yet you fail to recognize statistics when it comes to matters that would go against your belief. The last update statistics and research in regard to prison rape with specific numbers of corroborated victims put around 252 substantiated cases on the roster, which is absolutely miniscule if you even factor in an increase of 100% (504), and for good graces since shits under-reported for various factors, that is a rate of around 504/2,190,000. Pretty sure most states overall have more reports of that happening outside of correctional facilities. 

I highly implore you to check out the BJS reports and statistics they release on this matter, which speak in %'s, none of which breach 15, and forced sexual contact *of any type* in correctional facilities dips off massively once you become an adult, and is actually more prevalent in juvenile detention facilities (8-13%) 
PREA Data-Collection Activities, 2020 (bjs.gov)

Also you should check out that own report you linked, which states data from the 1950s. And it specifies consensual sexual contact, not forced sexual contact. I really hope you're not equating the two, as there is a very big difference. 

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