Edelweiss206 Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 (edited) So, just to be in the clear, I've never met the people in this report, not interacted with them. I'm a returning player and the most I've done is go to a coffee shop and a bar just to get reacquainted and meet people. I like to lurk the forums a lot and read up on player reports, so when this one caught my eye it kinda...confused me. If anyone's not bothered to read it, someone got into some 'kinky' stuff and was reported for 'public explicit RP' where someone emoted being walked by a leash. Which...okay, sure it's fetishistic and can be argued on those grounds, but is it 'explicit'? I personally think this sets a bad precedent because what is to stop someone from being reported to turning tricks in a less well off neighborhood, or the times I've seen thinly veiled adverts for escorts and prostitutes. What's to stop me reporting someone for trying to proposition me for a good time because it's explicit? Or say a mugging goes bad (or is just a thinly veiled murder) and someone shoots me in the face at point blank, are they going to report me for RPing those two bullets to the face opening the back of my head like a flower, and hitting the floor in a gory mess because that's the realistic thing to do? The report made a comment about 'children on the server' as well and I feel that's a bit...unfair? I'm not going to go on about policing that sorta thing because it's impossible, but come on, some under-aged kid is still gonna go "Huehuehue tiddy bar" and visit the Vanilla Unicorn. With separation between character and player how can you effectively police this unless there is proof that one player told them they were underage and then that sort of RP didn't immediately stop. I just want other peoples thoughts on the matter, this doesn't effect me. I personally read the report and it seemed a little heavy handed and fairly tame but I can understand why it was reported but: "We are in an enclosed environment with anywhere from 300-650+ players and we have to make sure the content on the server is suitable and enjoyable for all audiences that might come across your roleplay, a large number of which is going to be teenagers who may not fully understand these niche concepts of society." Is it alright for a teenage player to get into the server's 'gang culture' and run drugs, shoot rivals or take part in muggings? Or go to a Casino, go broke and deal with the less than savory politics that's always at the heart of them? I'm not saying 'fuck it let the kids do depraved stuff'. But can you really shield them from everything? Edited January 22, 2021 by Edelweiss206 1 Link to comment
Moonsong Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 General discussion is not the place to discuss specific reports on someone but for your benefit I'm going to quote the following rules; Quote 9) Offensive Roleplay The purpose of this rule is to find a balance between allowing players to be comfortable when playing while still allowing some freedom during roleplay. The roleplay that is restricted under this rule falls under the broad term of "Offensive Roleplay", but it does not mean that any roleplay that offends a player is not allowed. Offensive Roleplay includes the following; torture; dismemberment; other roleplay that may disgust another player, for example a graphic description of an injury. To do any of the roleplay listed above, it must be done with the OOC consent of all players involved prior to the roleplay being started. Offensive roleplay must be conducted away from other players and areas where players are likely to stumble across it. If an admin deems a location too public, it can be considered a breach of the rule. It is the responsibility of the players participating in the offensive roleplay to try to keep it away from players that may be uncomfortable with witnessing it. Players knowingly entering an area where offensive roleplay is occurring are assumed to have consented for the purposes of this rule. An example would be entering a strip club or a location where they know a character is being tortured. If a player is uncomfortable with the roleplay and they are a participant, they may request that it stops at any time. If a player witnesses offensive roleplay and they do not wish to see it, they may remove themselves from the scene. Examples: torturing a player without making sure they are fine with participating in that kind of roleplay; describing a gruesome injury in detail when someone arrives at a scene. The following types of roleplay are not allowed to happen on the server at all: cannibalism; bestiality; necrophilia; paedophilia. Sexual roleplay is covered in Rule 19. Creation of notes are under your responsability : if sexual or offensive notes that you created are found by other players, this will be considered as offensive roleplay without permission given. Quote 19) Sexual Roleplay Rules The purpose of this rule is to restrict predatory behaviour and reduce sexualization within the community. "Player" refers to the person behind the screen. "Character" refers to the character created by the player that exists in-game. Character descriptions must describe the character's general demeanour and appearance for players involved with roleplay. Character descriptions should not intentionally sexualize the character and should be rather neutral in describing the character. For clarification, this covers the character description script that a player can set using /attributes and another player can view using /examine. Sexual roleplay is defined as any roleplay that can be considered to be sexual activity or can lead up to sexual activity. This includes sexual touching. Fade to Black is defined as choosing to skip a roleplay scene as opposed to roleplaying it out in detail. Typically, the involved parties agree on what would have happened between the involved characters and simply move on. Players who are under the age of 18 cannot participate in any form of sexual roleplay. If any characters or players under the age of 18 are involved in any form of sexual roleplay, they are required to fade to black. Characters under 16 may NOT fade to black and may NOT participate in sexual roleplay whatsoever. Characters that exist only for the purposes of engaging in sexual roleplay are forbidden. Every character needs to participate in roleplay outside of sexual activity in order to not be in breach of this rule. Sexual roleplay may only happen if every player that can see the roleplay consents to it. Players who do not want to participate in sexual roleplay may freely remove themselves from the location where it is occurring. Sexual roleplay must occur in a private setting to minimize the chances of other players stumbling across the roleplay. Players may be punished if they are discovered engaging in sexual acts in public if they are unable to prove they did their best to not be discovered. In summary, the following must all apply before sexual roleplay can occur: all involved players are 18 years old or older; all involved characters are 18 years old or older; each player has agreed to participate and understands that the roleplay must immediately stop if an involved player gets uncomfortable; all involved players are responsible for making sure players that have not consented cannot stumble across the roleplay (eg. roleplaying in a locked interior); players may not encourage other players to participate in sexual roleplay using OOC means. This may also extend to trying to convince a player to engage in sexual acts of any kind when the character is clearly unwilling to participate. Players are strongly encouraged to report any sexual roleplay that involves characters or players under the age of 18. Additional Notes: Sexual roleplay in a public location can be defined as anything from engaging in sexual activity in anywhere that isn't in an interior to engaging in sexual activity in an interior that is easily accessed by several other players (such as a business or property with lots of players renting). Businesses that have sexual roleplay occurring inside (such as a sex shop or a club with exotic dancers) should be clearly advertised as such in order to warn players of that type of roleplay occurring. If that doesn't make the ruling painfully obvious, I'm not sure what will. Locked Link to comment
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