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A Public Church(es) for Roleplay


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4 hours ago, JoeSlice said:

I wouldn't support this idea beacause of the cultural/religious diversity that's on the server.

You build a church. The muslims get mad.

You build a mosque. The jews get mad.

You build a synagogue. The alien spagetti monster people get mad.

And so on..

In my opinion this matter should be handled ICly, like the way I promised to build churches on NGG as the president.

this reply has to be a joke right lmao

 

this dude's tryna get a church to rp epsilonism do you really think muslims and jews, of which there are very few on this server, are gonna get offended

 

sounds to me like you're just makin up a situation that has very little chance of occurring, when the server gets like 45 max at most given times and most people are busy rping in interiors

 

1 hour ago, Orcaninja said:

Ya'll are overexaggerating how much people care about their real-life religion being represented on a roleplay server. A good portion of us come from communities on SAMP that already had churches that functioned perfectly fine and only declined because of the clergy RPers going inactive. No one got butthurt, salty or anything else. People who wanted to do a mosque designed their own mosques. Catholic churches existed on their own and it didn't piss off any other denomination, In fact, other denominations grouped in with it because it was generally accepted that splitting up into a million churches unlike IRL means a drastically smaller attendance. 

 

I support the suggestion.  If someone wants to pay for the construction of a church business then they should be able to go ahead and get it going.  With all that being said, it's also possible to do church roleplay outside so a church isn't necessary for all religions. It may even be better to start off that way and use the donations from attendees and fundraising to start the church. The only thing that makes that hard is just the fact that compared to what people will likely give, the cost of having it made is significantly higher. 

well said, also "church business" is a pretty key point in your reply because you could get the greedy folk exploiting religion for profit that you'd see irl, that's basically what the epsilon program is and i'd like to see it have an actual place in the server in a central area, because the epsilon hq r* put in is a little far out

 

also people are missing the fact that rog is rping an epsilonist and his primary aim for use of the church is furthering his epsilon rp, he's just throwing in the mention of other religions in an attempt to sell the suggestion a little better

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On 1/9/2018 at 6:37 PM, MalteseWolf said:

One thing you can do is contact a realtor ICly and use the property system introduced by Missi to buy and furnish a church for your (and your movement's) use.

 

In particular with the Epsilon movement which I believe centers around the idea of stealing money from suckers who buy into the religion, running it as a business through this system would make much more sense than having it owned by nobody and used freely by everybody as this suggestions seems to indicate. If you do decide to go down this route, I wish you the best of luck as it would also have the potential to be an epic RP storyline.

 

Kifflom, brother-brother.

i've actually been trying to get to dynasty8 recently but since missi's been inactive and i haven't seen many ads, the section doesn't have much info either, it's pretty difficult to reach out to them to plan a custom business

 

i hope they add proposals on forums that you can outline your plan on, because it's not always guaranteed that you'll find them in game

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7 hours ago, JoeSlice said:

I wouldn't support this idea beacause of the cultural/religious diversity that's on the server.

You build a church. The muslims get mad.

You build a mosque. The jews get mad.

You build a synagogue. The alien spagetti monster people get mad.

And so on..

In my opinion this matter should be handled ICly, like the way I promised to build churches on NGG as the president.

idk if you're joking right now

 

Churches already exist in the game, why should this be handled IC? You can't really expect people to handle something so simple like mapping an interior for an already-existing building through IC means?

5 hours ago, GummyBear said:

This is true and this is the reason I’m not going to support this suggestion.

Pretty stupid reason to not support this suggestion. If that's the case, we shouldn't have casinos, convenience stores, liquor stores, bars, or even clubs mapped/scripted. They exist in the game but for some completely irrelevant reason, we shouldn't have them because their OOC developments should be handled IC!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

p.s. I support this. Add more interiors and make it public without entrance fees. Getting sick of seeing the same old interiors with the same old RP situations that nobody can bother to endure.

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11 hours ago, shaobadman said:

this reply has to be a joke right lmao

 

this dude's tryna get a church to rp epsilonism do you really think muslims and jews, of which there are very few on this server, are gonna get offended

 

sounds to me like you're just makin up a situation that has very little chance of occurring, when the server gets like 45 max at most given times and most people are busy rping in interiors

It's the general idea of religion, there are boundaries for it and surely if this thread was something being supported by a IC movement then fine.

But you're trying to get a church interior added so you(rog) can roleplay there. I had to grind a shittonne of time and presuade a lot of people to work with me before I even began dreaming about having a roleplay interior for my needs.

 

7 hours ago, Rahikeru said:

idk if you're joking right now

 

Churches already exist in the game, why should this be handled IC? You can't really expect people to handle something so simple like mapping an interior for an already-existing building through IC means?

Pretty stupid reason to not support this suggestion. If that's the case, we shouldn't have casinos, convenience stores, liquor stores, bars, or even clubs mapped/scripted. They exist in the game but for some completely irrelevant reason, we shouldn't have them because their OOC developments should be handled IC!

 

Most of the stuff you see added in-game "mapped" has been paid for with in-game money, so if the money is ic then so is the interior.

This server is intending to have people "create" and "structure" things via roleplay means, I can map a church interior for you no problem, I'd actually be grateful if you asked me.. however I'd much prefer to get an IC call and get told something like "I love your architecture skills, come design my church!"

 

 

What I was trying to say in my initial post is that:

- You want something strictly IC added in OOCly

- You want it added oocly though you can get it added ICly

- If you add a church OOC for IC purposes, people will get butthurt ooc and be like "epilepson progrem iz fejk end main religian is reel end ju ad fejk religiaens ooc?!??!?!?!?"


 

10 hours ago, shaobadman said:

i've actually been trying to get to dynasty8 recently but since missi's been inactive and i haven't seen many ads, the section doesn't have much info either, it's pretty difficult to reach out to them to plan a custom business

 

i hope they add proposals on forums that you can outline your plan on, because it's not always guaranteed that you'll find them in game

 

Apparently now Snowflakes deals with Dynasty8 and you need to spam her on discord to get her to help you IG ^_^

That's the same in majority of other cases where you need help: Spam admins on discord.

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2 hours ago, JoeSlice said:

It's the general idea of religion, there are boundaries for it and surely if this thread was something being supported by a IC movement then fine.

But you're trying to get a church interior added so you(rog) can roleplay there. I had to grind a shittonne of time and presuade a lot of people to work with me before I even began dreaming about having a roleplay interior for my needs.

 

 

Most of the stuff you see added in-game "mapped" has been paid for with in-game money, so if the money is ic then so is the interior.

This server is intending to have people "create" and "structure" things via roleplay means, I can map a church interior for you no problem, I'd actually be grateful if you asked me.. however I'd much prefer to get an IC call and get told something like "I love your architecture skills, come design my church!"

 

 

What I was trying to say in my initial post is that:

- You want something strictly IC added in OOCly

- You want it added oocly though you can get it added ICly

- If you add a church OOC for IC purposes, people will get butthurt ooc and be like "epilepson progrem iz fejk end main religian is reel end ju ad fejk religiaens ooc?!??!?!?!?"


 

 

Apparently now Snowflakes deals with Dynasty8 and you need to spam her on discord to get her to help you IG ^_^

That's the same in majority of other cases where you need help: Spam admins on discord.

You don't understand a single bit of what we're saying. The Epsilon HQ and various churches exist on the game. No churches, synagogues, or temples (that I know of) exist in the game so why would anyone wanna try and map it? It's already unrealistic how a lot of buildings are inaccessible on a roleplay server. Just because you think people are gonna be upset doesn't mean we should restrict roleplay and just stop development entirely. 

 

Also Shao and I are banned from discord for unknown reasons. We can't ask anyone for anything. 

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7 hours ago, JoeSlice said:

people will get butthurt ooc and be like "epilepson progrem iz fejk end main religian is reel end ju ad fejk religiaens ooc?!??!?!?!?"

seems like you're just making wild assumptions about the player base instead of posing it as an unlikely possibility (which is what it actually is)

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3 hours ago, Clutch said:

I actually like the idea of churches holding funerals perhaps or wakes adds more to the immersion and roleplay for the handfull of people that'll roleplay a priest or something alike.

man i rp'd with a priest today

 

he had a weird interpretation of christianity where apparently he's been told to sin, so i watched him rob a store and beg people for money, he called his faggio his heavenly steed

 

weirdo rp is fun

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IMO at the moment this suggestion can be solved through the general requests in the property section. The only downside of doing those requests is:

  • The cost comes out of your pocket for the construction and the furnishing. It may be possible to do this through the furniture items available currently. Furnishing is expensive but maybe if a suggestion were done for lowering the furniture item costs that'd make it less of a burden. 
  • The location may not get accepted if it's too far from the "hot spots" sadly.  
 
If there's nothing else to add I'll archive the suggestion. I really feel like making a general request is the solution here. I doubt people would oppose the idea itself of having a religious place. The location used is the issue you'd face if anything if it was too far outside LS sadly. 
https://forum.gta.world/en/index.php?/forum/61-requests/
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