Trupiano Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 2 hours ago, Pathway said: I'd agree with this, if other game mechanics were changed along with it. For example if I rob a car at gunpoint and chop said car, the person gets their car back 7 hours later, loses LITERALLY nothing, but I get a prison sentences of a month. Or what if someone provokes me, I end up shooting them, all they have to do is rp injuries for 30 seconds at a hospital, or just respawn at the hospital if they accept death, meanwhile I get months on end of prison time while this person is still casually walking around not affected in any way? If you think that's fair you're insane. The only way I'd agree with you is if everything else on the server was adjusted to make the lengthened jailtimes fair, because it seems you're cherry picking what you want to be accurate to irl. This. We're all in agreement that jail sentencing needs to be changed, but this suggestion ain't it. Link to comment
DLimit Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 Supported, a million percent. Link to comment
hipsxn Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 No, it's still a game at the end of the day. SD have done the sentences decent and it should stay the way it is, the prison is already inactive through the day until late hours, making the sentences longer is never going to fix that. Link to comment
Guest Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 Agreed. Even my car got a lengthier sentence then most criminals get now. Link to comment
Cypher Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 (edited) Lengthening prison times will do nothing under the current system. People can still log out and then just play on another character until their prison time is finished. Better suggestion is to force a certain % of their jail time to be carried out in-game without offline ticking taking it away. The reason prisons are empty is because they aren't required to do so. Everyone except for prison lifers or devoted criminal RP'ers generally log out until their time is up. Edited January 16, 2021 by Cypher Link to comment
Matthew Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 The sentences are long enough, we don't need to discourage people from engaging in criminal RP and force them to RP in jail or not use that character when they don't enjoy it. Link to comment
Triple Seven Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 21 minutes ago, Matthew said: The sentences are long enough, we don't need to discourage people from engaging in criminal RP and force them to RP in jail or not use that character when they don't enjoy it. It's part of roleplaying a criminal, so unpopular opinion? Yes we do. It's called consequences. Link to comment
Juicebox. Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 42 minutes ago, Triple Seven said: It's part of roleplaying a criminal, so unpopular opinion? Yes we do. It's called consequences. OOC punishment for an IC decision. It's kind of tough to be able to punish some1 ICly and not OOCly but I mean longer sentences will just lead to people not palying for a period of time. Link to comment
Cypher Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Juicebox. said: OOC punishment for an IC decision. It's kind of tough to be able to punish some1 ICly and not OOCly but I mean longer sentences will just lead to people not palying for a period of time. Same could be said for anyone that gets robbed, but doesn't enjoy robbery role play. Same could be said for anyone that gets extorted, but doesn't enjoy extortion role play. Same could be said for anyone that doesn't enjoy role play involving interaction with PD/SD/FD/EMS. I could go on. It's part of the game. You don't get to cherry pick what you should and shouldn't role play in these instances. You have to deal with it. If you're a criminal? You go to jail. It's part of the role play. Sorry, but that's how it should be. Instead of longer sentences, just have people serve a portion of their sentence IC. It puts more people in the jail to make it more engaging. EDIT: Better yet make them serve the entire sentence IC with no offline ticking but make the sentences shorter. Revamp the CK rules for jail where a CK is only approved on a very good RP build-up and justification/reason, so people just don't CK to get out of the sentence. Then everyone would be in jail lol. Activity problem solved. Just an outside-the-box thought. We can't get around the OOC/IC punishment ordeal, but using that to justify not having to serve a sentence is just complete crap for reasons stated above. Edited January 16, 2021 by Cypher 2 Link to comment
Juicebox. Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Cypher said: Same could be said for anyone that gets robbed, but doesn't enjoy robbery role play. Same could be said for anyone that gets extorted, but doesn't enjoy extortion role play. Same could be said for anyone that doesn't enjoy role play involving interaction with PD/SD/FD/EMS. I could go on. It's part of the game. You don't get to cherry pick what you should and shouldn't role play in these instances. You have to deal with it. If you're a criminal? You go to jail. It's part of the role play. Sorry, but that's how it should be. Instead of longer sentences, just have people serve a portion of their sentence IC. It puts more people in the jail to make it more engaging. I agree with making it so you have to serve a % of the sentence ingame, but making a ridiculously long sentence instead would just lead to people straight up abandoning characters and even leaving the game. As for everything else I mostly agree but those situations are entirely different to a degree. Although I think a lot of robberies on the server are sub-par, you can do more things after you get robbed. Once your extorter is gone, there's more to do after being extorted. You get where I'm going. In prison it seems like pretty one-dimensional most of the time it's a bunch of groups against another bunch of groups and then u got the guys who mind their business. That can get boring after a time now imagine doing that type of roleplay for hours for like 2 months for example. That's ridiculous. But a little off topic I agree extortion and robbery RP is extremely lackluster on this server extortion in general feel like I live in the 1940's. BTW I hope that made sense im tired as shit and winding down for bed lol Edited January 16, 2021 by Juicebox. Link to comment
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