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Creating a Department Of Corrections legal faction and a USP (United States Penitentiary) a.k.a. Federal Prison.

 

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There is a real need to have a Federal Prison or a Federal Inmate Section within Twin Towers at least and a whole Department Of Corrections faction.

 

https://gta.fandom.com/wiki/Bolingbroke_Penitentiary

 

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If Bolingbroke was used for this, it would be immersive and completely amazing and probably motivating for people to create a new Department Of Corrections faction.

 

A lot of the committed crimes performed by organized crime factions could be considered to be Federal, that's why it's not realistic to have for example international smugglers or nationwide mobsters mixed with County Jail inmates.

 

Also, females should really have their own section, and if they already do, stick to it both in County Jail and Federal Prison (if added).

 

I know the admins may not want to script a whole new thing (which is sad in my personal opinion) but at least the Twin Towers county jail should really be improved and add the divisions stated above.

 

I'm also aware that Bolingbroke is RP'ed as a State Pen on many character stories, so it could also be a mixed prison if scripted (State and Federal penitentiary). And leave County Jail for minor crimes.

 

Commands to add: None.

 

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How would your suggestion improve the server?

 

Criminal immersion, realism, high quality roleplay in general.

 

Additional information:

 

U.S. Federal Gun Law

 

Anyone who has been convicted of a felony is banned by federal law from ever possessing “any firearm or ammunition.” Specifically a person “convicted in any court of a crime punishable by imprisonment for a term exceeding one year” cannot possess any firearm in any location. 18 U.S.C. 922(g) is the federal law that prohibits anyone ever convicted of any felony to ever possess any firearm either inside or outside of his home. The federal punishment for firearm possession by a felon is up to 10 years in prison.

 

But as happened in Selma, local police in California have increasingly been turning to federal authorities for help prosecuting gun crimes. The reason? Adkins and people like him face far more time behind federal bars than they would if they were prosecuted under state law.

 

The program under which his case is being handled, Project Safe Neighborhoods, got its start in 2001 under President George W. Bush. It fell out of favor during the Obama administration, but the Justice Department under then-Attorney General Jeff Sessions reinstated it.

 

The idea is to seek out suspects considered to be especially dangerous and maximize their prison time by prosecuting them through the federal system. Under California law, felons caught in possession of a firearm could face up to three years in prison. That sentence could be reduced by half for good behavior. Some felons caught with guns end up doing time in county jails.

 

Under federal law, however, they face 10 years in prison, and must serve at least 85% of that sentence. Since 2018, 175 individuals have been indicted on federal charges of being a felon in possession of a firearm in the Eastern District, and 161 have been sentenced to prison.

 

Some of the more common federal charges include but are not limited to:

 

21 USC Sec. 841 – Drug Offenses/Trafficking
8 USC Sec. 1324 – Illegal Alien Smuggling or Border Crossing
18 USC Sec. 2113 – Bank Robbery
18 USC Sec. 2251 – Child Pornography
18 USC Sec. 1030 – Internet Fraud
18 USC Sec. 1341 – Mail Fraud
18 USC Sec. 1348/1349 – Securities Fraud
18 USC Sec. 21 – Counterfeiting and Forgery
18 USC Sec. 1956 – Money Laundering
18 USC Sec. 1961 – Organized Crime
26 USC Sec. 7201 – Tax violations

 

DIFFERENCES BETWEEN FEDERAL AND STATE DRUG OFFENSES

 

Manufacturing, trafficking, and possessing controlled substances like marijuana, cocaine, heroin, methamphetamines, and opiates are illegal under state and federal law. However, you cannot be charged with a drug offense under both. You are either charged with a state drug crime or a federal drug offense. In some cases, your charges may start in state court but as an investigation unfolds, the federal government may take over the prosecution, leading to the potential exposure to much more severe punishment for the same crime.

 

You are likely to be charged with a federal drug crime if your alleged criminal activity:

 

- Took place on federal property.
- Crossed state lines or involved importing drugs into the country.
- Was investigated by a federal law enforcement agency, such as the Drug - Enforcement Administration (DEA).
- Involved other offenses such as firearm possession to further the drug activity and/or money laundering related to the drug proceeds.
- Was related to organized crime or a continuing criminal enterprise.
- Involved the sale of large drug quantities.
- Involved transporting drugs through mail couriers like USPS, UPS, FedEx, etc.
- Was discovered through a federal informant.

 

Also, the quantity of the drug also influences whether you face state or federal charges. Small amounts of drugs are often handled by local and state officials. However, if you are allegedly involved with large quantities of drugs, such as importing cocaine or growing acres of marijuana, then your case is more likely to be handled by federal authorities.

 

 

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Couldn't agree more. It's quite immersion breaking when you're locked up in there and you start seeing girls walking around the male block freely and vice versa. Things such as females AND males being in the same cell at times just really breaks all immersion of being inside an actual prison. Alongside that, there does need to be a clear difference where someone goes when committing a misdemeanor and a felony. That doesn't exist right now, it seems. 

 

Fully support this.

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Two problems though.

 

If we have a prison, that takes away from LSSD's purpose of existing. I have one solution for this though — people who have plead not guilty or have a required case go to the county jail, which LSSD governs, as the real life system. If they are convicted, they're then transferred to the prison. 

 

With a county jail, it makes no sense for prison gangs such as The Mexican Mafia to be operating there. So, a prison would add roleplay to factions like this — yet, as I said, it takes away the purpose of LSSD.

  

Also.. are you suggesting a federal prison or state level prison?

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4 minutes ago, Sacred said:

Two problems though.

 

If we have a prison, that takes away from LSSD's purpose of existing. I have one solution for this though — people who have plead not guilty or have a required case go to the county jail, which LSSD governs, as the real life system. If they are convicted, they're then transferred to the prison. 

 

With a county jail, it makes no sense for prison gangs such as The Mexican Mafia to be operating there. So, a prison would add roleplay to factions like this — yet, as I said, it takes away the purpose of LSSD.

  

You're a cop right? How many people do you arrest for misdemeanors and how many do you arrest for felonies (aka how many would you send to County Jail or Prison on average)?

I ask cause I think LSSD would still have a decent amount of roleplay in the county jail with the people arrested for misdemeanors or the ones awaiting trial. Aside from this anyways, I don't think the LSSD likes the prison too much. From my personal experiences and when talking to others, the guards are not that active and much rather be patrolling then being locked away in the jail.

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I was against this for awhile but the reality of the server is we have SHU level characters chilling in county jail. Creating a long term facility, be it a state or federal prison would tremendously add to prison RP. Another factor is it doesn't seem like LSSD wants to be sitting on the cell block all day, I assume it's boring for the majority of them. 

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6 minutes ago, joaoivis said:

You also need a federal buerau of investigtion. I still don't know the reason we don't have a branch of FBI around here. It's necessary for people that roleplay money laundry and other stuff.

Well, the closest thing to that which exists currently is the San Andreas Bureau of Investigation.

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Just now, Naeno said:

You're a cop right? How many people do you arrest for misdemeanors and how many do you arrest for felonies (aka how many would you send to County Jail or Prison on average)?

I think LSSD would still have a decent amount of roleplay in the county jail with the people arrested for misdemeanors or the ones awaiting trial. Aside from this anyways, I don't think the LSSD likes the prison too much. From my personal experiences and when talking to others, the guards are not as active.

Misdemeanors (VERY MINOR, such as driving on a suspended license) are sent to the small jail cells inside of the Mission Row station, or any other station. I don't log every single person I arrest and if they committed a felony or a misdemeanor. But yes, that was my suggestion, to have people awaiting trial to be in the county jail.

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22 minutes ago, Sacred said:

Two problems though.

 

If we have a prison, that takes away from LSSD's purpose of existing. I have one solution for this though — people who have plead not guilty or have a required case go to the county jail, which LSSD governs, as the real life system. If they are convicted, they're then transferred to the prison. 

 

With a county jail, it makes no sense for prison gangs such as The Mexican Mafia to be operating there. So, a prison would add roleplay to factions like this — yet, as I said, it takes away the purpose of LSSD.

  

Also.. are you suggesting a federal prison or state level prison?

As I described; "I'm also aware that Bolingbroke is RP'ed as a State Pen on many character stories, so it could also be a mixed prison if scripted (State and Federal penitentiary). And leave County Jail for minor crimes."

 

So to answer the question, I think that it could be RP'ed as both a State Pen and Fed Pen, like divided. And County Jail would be used for the things you say; people awaiting trial and misdemeanors.

 

It's worth saying that a misdemeanor can be related to gun possession too, not only driving through a red light.

 

The most common firearms charge in California is possession of a gun without a permit. This is usually a misdemeanor charge. It is quite common because the issuance of concealed carry permits in this state is quite limited, and is up to the discretion of a local judge and sheriff.

 

 

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, ElDiablo said:

Short description:

 

Creating a Department Of Corrections legal faction and a USP (United States Penitentiary) a.k.a. Federal Prison.

 

Detailed description:

 

There is a real need to have a Federal Prison or a Federal Inmate Section within Twin Towers at least and a whole Department Of Corrections faction.

 

https://gta.fandom.com/wiki/Bolingbroke_Penitentiary

 

eHAarP2.png

 

If Bolingbroke was used for this, it would be immersive and completely amazing and probably motivating for people to create a new Department Of Corrections faction.

 

A lot of the committed crimes performed by organized crime factions could be considered to be Federal, that's why it's not realistic to have for example international smugglers or nationwide mobsters mixed with County Jail inmates.

 

Also, females should really have their own section, and if they already do, stick to it both in County Jail and Federal Prison (if added).

 

I know the admins may not want to script a whole new thing (which is sad in my personal opinion) but at least the Twin Towers county jail should really be improved and add the divisions stated above.

 

I'm also aware that Bolingbroke is RP'ed as a State Pen on many character stories, so it could also be a mixed prison if scripted (State and Federal penitentiary). And leave County Jail for minor crimes.

 

Commands to add: None.

 

Items to add: None.

 

How would your suggestion improve the server?

 

Criminal immersion, realism, high quality roleplay in general.

 

Additional information:

 

U.S. Federal Gun Law

 

Anyone who has been convicted of a felony is banned by federal law from ever possessing “any firearm or ammunition.” Specifically a person “convicted in any court of a crime punishable by imprisonment for a term exceeding one year” cannot possess any firearm in any location. 18 U.S.C. 922(g) is the federal law that prohibits anyone ever convicted of any felony to ever possess any firearm either inside or outside of his home. The federal punishment for firearm possession by a felon is up to 10 years in prison.

 

But as happened in Selma, local police in California have increasingly been turning to federal authorities for help prosecuting gun crimes. The reason? Adkins and people like him face far more time behind federal bars than they would if they were prosecuted under state law.

 

The program under which his case is being handled, Project Safe Neighborhoods, got its start in 2001 under President George W. Bush. It fell out of favor during the Obama administration, but the Justice Department under then-Attorney General Jeff Sessions reinstated it.

 

The idea is to seek out suspects considered to be especially dangerous and maximize their prison time by prosecuting them through the federal system. Under California law, felons caught in possession of a firearm could face up to three years in prison. That sentence could be reduced by half for good behavior. Some felons caught with guns end up doing time in county jails.

 

Under federal law, however, they face 10 years in prison, and must serve at least 85% of that sentence. Since 2018, 175 individuals have been indicted on federal charges of being a felon in possession of a firearm in the Eastern District, and 161 have been sentenced to prison.

 

Some of the more common federal charges include but are not limited to:

 

21 USC Sec. 841 – Drug Offenses/Trafficking
8 USC Sec. 1324 – Illegal Alien Smuggling or Border Crossing
18 USC Sec. 2113 – Bank Robbery
18 USC Sec. 2251 – Child Pornography
18 USC Sec. 1030 – Internet Fraud
18 USC Sec. 1341 – Mail Fraud
18 USC Sec. 1348/1349 – Securities Fraud
18 USC Sec. 21 – Counterfeiting and Forgery
18 USC Sec. 1956 – Money Laundering
18 USC Sec. 1961 – Organized Crime
26 USC Sec. 7201 – Tax violations

 

DIFFERENCES BETWEEN FEDERAL AND STATE DRUG OFFENSES

 

Manufacturing, trafficking, and possessing controlled substances like marijuana, cocaine, heroin, methamphetamines, and opiates are illegal under state and federal law. However, you cannot be charged with a drug offense under both. You are either charged with a state drug crime or a federal drug offense. In some cases, your charges may start in state court but as an investigation unfolds, the federal government may take over the prosecution, leading to the potential exposure to much more severe punishment for the same crime.

 

You are likely to be charged with a federal drug crime if your alleged criminal activity:

 

- Took place on federal property.
- Crossed state lines or involved importing drugs into the country.
- Was investigated by a federal law enforcement agency, such as the Drug - Enforcement Administration (DEA).
- Involved other offenses such as firearm possession to further the drug activity and/or money laundering related to the drug proceeds.
- Was related to organized crime or a continuing criminal enterprise.
- Involved the sale of large drug quantities.
- Involved transporting drugs through mail couriers like USPS, UPS, FedEx, etc.
- Was discovered through a federal informant.

 

Also, the quantity of the drug also influences whether you face state or federal charges. Small amounts of drugs are often handled by local and state officials. However, if you are allegedly involved with large quantities of drugs, such as importing cocaine or growing acres of marijuana, then your case is more likely to be handled by federal authorities.

 

 

Hahaha that's crazy I live literally 45 mins from Victorville and I've driven past the prison several times and come to think of it, it is identical. Anyways. I agree with your points that you made.

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