MasterChief Posted July 3, 2019 Share Posted July 3, 2019 (edited) https://imgur.com/5bI05rL 238 players online, 2 player owned business open, serious lack of role play opportunities. I understand there are illegal factions and people who role play inside, but this is crazy. My questions is to Gold/Platinum donators get 1 month of property inactivity in regards to their businesses as well? I've come across plenty of businesses that I never see open and I think the current system is potentially taking away from people who want to run active businesses. I get that we all have real lives too, but there needs to be a compromise between that and having business owners who never open their business or have gone AFK/inactive and log-in once a month to skirt around the inactivity rules (I'm not even sure what these are, to be honest). These are just ones I've come across recently that I never see open. Tequi-La-La's door is unlocked and wide open for anyone to go in, like the bar owner just left it there and said screw it. I bet there are plenty more out there that never open, but somehow still retain their business rights. I don't get it. - Del Perro Pizza - Dune-O-Beach Cafe - Eclipse Lounge (not the nightclub) - Hit'N'Run Coffee House - Last Train Diner - Tequi-La-La Bar - Ring of Fire Chili House (saw someone using Ads to try and find the owner for like 2 weeks and I either found them or simply gave up lol) Something needs to change with how business property inactivity works. I'm sure there are other people who want to run businesses and current owners should be held to a higher standard. A requirement of hours each week, each month, something. If that's already in place, then it's not being watched or the numbers need to change. Still 238 people online as I've written this, 10-15 minutes later. One cafe as opened up. There should be plenty of things open for people to do right now. Something has to change. Clarification of my point. It seems after re-reading the point of my post was misunderstood. Look here: Edited July 4, 2019 by Kestalas Link to comment
Robyn Posted July 3, 2019 Share Posted July 3, 2019 3 1 hour ago, Kestalas said: Tequi-La-La's door is unlocked and wide open for anyone to go in, like the bar owner just left it there and said screw it. I bet there are plenty more out there that never open, but somehow still retain their business rights. I don't get it. - Del Perro Pizza - Dune-O-Beach Cafe - Eclipse Lounge (not the nightclub) - Hit'N'Run Coffee House - Last Train Diner - Tequi-La-La Bar - Ring of Fire Chili House (saw someone using Ads to try and find the owner for like 2 weeks and I either found them or simply gave up lol) Just to break these down for you Tequi-La-La is a lease, not sure what's happening there Del Perro Pizza I don't know about Eclipse Lounge is on the property account waiting for some mapping before going to the lease list Hit'N'Run I'm not sure about Last Train is undergoing renovations Ring of Fire was moved and is being furnished last I heard If you think a property is not opening enough then feel free to send in a report using the below format to Atiku, Pascal and Thirteen Link to comment
M52B28 Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 (edited) I believe we could strongly improve the situation by limiting the businesses that are given out, basically encourage people to join existing ones instead of creating their own, just like it is with factions. Businesses are being handed out too easily to people who lack the will and actual motivation to run them, thus creating a cemetery. But hey, at least they opened once or twice and had that specific niche vibe to it so everyone praised it to heaven even though it barely provided any actual roleplay. ? Edited July 4, 2019 by M52B28 1 Link to comment
MasterChief Posted July 4, 2019 Author Share Posted July 4, 2019 (edited) I agree. I honestly don’t mind if business are handed out, so long as there are more strict requirements to acquire and keep them. Problem is now that people are getting businesses, losing the will 2 weeks later as you said, and somehow still keep their business even though they don’t open it but once a month or even at all. The parameters and requirements surrounding keeping their business should be looked at. I personally wouldn’t mind tons of open businesses, provided they stay active. If they don’t, they should be surrendered/refunded so the next person can have a go at it. Edited July 4, 2019 by Kestalas Link to comment
shiroq Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 The problem with businesses not opening is not always "i bought it had fun for 2 weeks and done" Sometimes businesses close due to roleplay reasons. For example Del Perro Pizza, i used to run the place for the previous owner and it was a "mob" owned business. It fit the roleplay and was used a lot, few months back it would open 2-3 times a week. The owner of the place was cked and he sold it to someone the new owner opened it but I guess he also changed his character and it was put up for sale. There is now a new Pizza place in Vinewood that is pretty nice and was open not too long ago. One of the biggest issues for business being inactive is the fact that only the owner can access the cash box. For example If i'm the business owner I can't hire a manager to run the business for a week or two while I might be away or focusing on another character, burn out or whatever the reason. Because without me they cannot get paid. Introducing some kind of feature that there could be a designated person that can access the cash box would help this a lot and would revive many businesses in my opinion as many people have limited time to be online so they might want to focus on roleplaying their other activities besides opening a business. I personally know quite a few people that are business owners but they are unable to open up due to ooc reasons and without giving the ability for someone to pay the employee's and all of that it's really difficult. Sadly not many people trust to come to spend 2 hours an opening three times a week and have no idea if they will get paid at the end of the week or no. 1 Link to comment
MasterChief Posted July 4, 2019 Author Share Posted July 4, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, shiroq said: One of the biggest issues for business being inactive is the fact that only the owner can access the cash box. For example If i'm the business owner I can't hire a manager to run the business for a week or two while I might be away or focusing on another character, burn out or whatever the reason. Because without me they cannot get paid. Introducing some kind of feature that there could be a designated person that can access the cash box would help this a lot and would revive many businesses in my opinion as many people have limited time to be online so they might want to focus on roleplaying their other activities besides opening a business. I personally know quite a few people that are business owners but they are unable to open up due to ooc reasons and without giving the ability for someone to pay the employee's and all of that it's really difficult. Sadly not many people trust to come to spend 2 hours an opening three times a week and have no idea if they will get paid at the end of the week or no. @Rybyn @Pascal @Atiku @Thirteen Potentially something to explore? Edited July 4, 2019 by Kestalas Link to comment
Cara Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 From 8pm last night to now the following businesses used the /bad command to advertise that they were open: Squeeze0ne0ut Lounge Les Bianco Out of Towners La Mesa Foul Mouthed La Puerta Del Sol Casino El Cafe Rojo De Madera Los Santos Meteor (midnight opening) Singletons Star Light Vinewood Community Centre Pitchers Autohaven Tudor Autos Glass Heroes Auto Exotic Pacific Bluffs Pool Party There are definitely owned businesses that never open, I can think of quite a few off the top of my head, BUT that isn’t contributing to ‘a lack of roleplay opportunities’ as you say. I’m not trying to be flippant but if there was nothing open when you checked, why didn’t you start something yourself? It’s almost a lack of imagination to say well, there’s nothing open, guess I’m getting no roleplay. Go somewhere and advertise an impromptu party. Grab some leisure vehicle and start setting up activities, (I’m sure I saw a scuba diving group advertising that they were putting something together quite late last night. Maybe even grab a job in one of the script businesses and advertise. Saying that, I do think there should be some way to set a manager in a business so people can be hired / fired and the business looked after by others too. Link to comment
DLimit Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 Why does one require a business to roleplay, in the first place? Host an open party at the beach.... block party in your neighborhood... organize a protest etc... Your imagination is LIMITED if you're solely dependent on roleplaying within nightclubs. Link to comment
LookAtMyRight Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, DLimit said: Why does one require a business to roleplay, in the first place? Host an open party at the beach.... block party in your neighborhood... organize a protest etc... Your imagination is LIMITED if you're solely dependent on roleplaying within nightclubs. True and agreed, but we still can't just ignore inactive businesses like that as well. Sidetracked a bit, you mentioned about "protest", it'd be great if we got like Election or something, no need to be scripted, just something to argue about In-character. scratch that, I forgot there's literally GOV in this server, sorry I was drunk. Edited July 4, 2019 by LookAtMyRight 1 Link to comment
Cascade Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 (edited) Dune-O-Beach Cafe is a PD bar owned by me and is literally getting used tonight ? We use it for events and stuff for the server. Edited July 4, 2019 by Cascade 1 Link to comment
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