Revisiting murder police rules

[Xantholic]

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[SilentOG]

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[vally]

51 minutes ago, slump said:

Probably shouldn’t be a cop if your enjoyment on the server is constant shootouts, same goes for illegal fac member. 

 

Rule is fine as is, prevents ridiculously stupid shootings that are an excuse to get into a gunfight and not good roleplay.

Generally speaking gta rp since samp days is known to be a type of game where you can have (and players enjoy) some conflict scenes with a built up story that leads to it, only shootouts would be a deathmatch game, only a stale storyline with no conflicts would be taking away part of the game core.

It's a bit like watching a good action movie, some people prefer action in it, some not. Why they don't just go on youtube and search for action scenes? Because what's fun is having some sort of storyline that makes you want end up to that, not just watching that part. Roleplay is a bit similar. Some people prefer some built up conflicts as a side dish, some prefer other.

[heartbeat81]

Kill a cop trying to seize your asset and someone else will replace him, but now you added a Capital Murder charge to your file. You'll kill a cop over and over again? Doesn't make sense.

 

 

[sensual]

On 10/22/2024 at 1:39 PM, vally said:

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many cops complain that shifts are getting too stale and poor of any action event

not quite sure what cops you hang around but you should probably take initiative and tell them that theres more to leo rp than “action events,” whatever that even means. 

 

id argue that the sudden downturn in cops getting mass murdered is due to the recent changes in the ban rules. its a good change and its healthy to not get shot in the head immediately when you turn your lights on to pull a car over. 

[vally]

9 hours ago, sensual said:

not quite sure what cops you hang around but you should probably take initiative and tell them that theres more to leo rp than “action events,” whatever that even means. 

It's a simple concept, and I could drop names left and right but that's not me. Nothing private in that but if they don't often publicly say it then I won't. Just hang around them more often maybe you'll get to get a conversation or two.

And trust me, they do know there is more leo rp than ""action events"", we're discussing about what's lacking here.

Edited October 31 by vally

[Anubis]

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It'll promote deathmatch, players will kill cops because they will think "hmm I did X and I was sure my Blista is about the get seized".

If you  drive without a plate for no reason and get pulled over, you'd probably end up with 420. Vehicle Registration Violation. Only if you'll evade you'll have your vehicle seized. 

I don't think it'll do any good to end up every pursuit with a shootout so the suspects will escape jail because they'll lose their guns anyway...  

[Soraya]

On 10/18/2024 at 8:48 AM, niggavelious said:

As @jromjeksin said in their first reply: Think cops that are knowingly pulling over 4 deep cars of gang members repeatedly with no real reason other than to ask to search or get a K9 should be killed.

 

Only point that I agree with in this whole thread.

We've gotten away from the origin of the thread. This is the only point to agree with. 

[AkaTenshi]

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I've been playing a criminal character for the last year and I've never had any of these issues with cops, mostly because whenever my character is carrying something illegal, He does not do stupid shit that would bring attention to himself. Instead, he just drives normally, a registered vehicle with everything perfectly legal. 

This is how my character was able to commit hundreds of crimes without ever being caught for any of them. 
If your character is moving recklessly, doing dumb stuff without thinking about it (which happens very often in the server), they deserve to be arrested and thrown into jail because that's how the cookie crumbles. After having supplier status, and being involved in various schemes from chop-shop to drug production, I must say that being caught by the police is very much a consequence of the actions of the character or those surrounding them. 
But what I see most of the time is a bunch of people stacked in an STX, full-on tinted windows, speeding around, and with a bunch of people masked inside of it. What do the typists of these characters expect? To not be stopped? For cops to see something as suspicious as that and simply shrug their shoulders, look at "the camera" and say "Just another fun day in LS! Let them have their fun terrorizing and murdering people! Boys will be boys"? 
We are in a heavy roleplay server, if you do not want to get caught doing illegal shit, then chose which battles you fight, and when you do them, no rule is forcing you to be an obvious criminal or a dumb one. As it's your choice to play that character, it's also the cop's choice to stop and interrogate your character about why they are doing what they are doing.
However, some people are on this server specifically to play conflict which is bound to attract some attention (as it should) and have consequences for your characters. If you do not want your character to be arrested, have an intelligent character who thinks about what he's doing before doing it.  
Being able to shoot yourself out of a tough situation that you've placed yourself in is not a really good standard for the server and it's a harsh interruption of RP. 

P.S: Without counting all the sour interactions that criminal characters have with said cops which will just raise their suspicions and just like in RL, will make the authority agent difficult the interaction on purpose since the character is making a fit like a toddler. For some reason, a large chunk of the characters in the server thinks it's cool to act like a spoiled child and insult others without any sort of reason except "You're a cop, bad guy, we hate you!". Instead of acting realistically (Fear RP) and behave like a normal civilian would in order to not bring more attention to themselves and what they have in the trunk/waistline/wtv. There's this idea that if you hate cops, you gotta tell them straight to their face in the most inopportune times just to make a stand, while that couldn't be less further away from the truth.

Edited October 31 by AkaTenshi
Added the Post Scriptum

[Soraya]

39 minutes ago, AkaTenshi said:

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I've been playing a criminal character for the last year and I've never had any of these issues with cops, mostly because whenever my character is carrying something illegal, He does not do stupid shit that would bring attention to himself. Instead, he just drives normally, a registered vehicle with everything perfectly legal. 

This is how my character was able to commit hundreds of crimes without ever being caught for any of them. 
If your character is moving recklessly, doing dumb stuff without thinking about it (which happens very often in the server), they deserve to be arrested and thrown into jail because that's how the cookie crumbles. After having supplier status, and being involved in various schemes from chop-shop to drug production, I must say that being caught by the police is very much a consequence of the actions of the character or those surrounding them. 
But what I see most of the time is a bunch of people stacked in an STX, full-on tinted windows, speeding around, and with a bunch of people masked inside of it. What do the typists of these characters expect? To not be stopped? For cops to see something as suspicious as that and simply shrug their shoulders, look at "the camera" and say "Just another fun day in LS! Let them have their fun terrorizing and murdering people! Boys will be boys"? 
We are in a heavy roleplay server, if you do not want to get caught doing illegal shit, then chose which battles you fight, and when you do them, no rule is forcing you to be an obvious criminal or a dumb one. As it's your choice to play that character, it's also the cop's choice to stop and interrogate your character about why they are doing what they are doing.
However, some people are on this server specifically to play conflict which is bound to attract some attention (as it should) and have consequences for your characters. If you do not want your character to be arrested, have an intelligent character who thinks about what he's doing before doing it.  
Being able to shoot yourself out of a tough situation that you've placed yourself in is not a really good standard for the server and it's a harsh interruption of RP. 

P.S: Without counting all the sour interactions that criminal characters have with said cops which will just raise their suspicions and just like in RL, will make the authority agent difficult the interaction on purpose since the character is making a fit like a toddler. For some reason, a large chunk of the characters in the server thinks it's cool to act like a spoiled child and insult others without any sort of reason except "You're a cop, bad guy, we hate you!". Instead of acting realistically (Fear RP) and behave like a normal civilian would in order to not bring more attention to themselves and what they have in the trunk/waistline/wtv. There's this idea that if you hate cops, you gotta tell them straight to their face in the most inopportune times just to make a stand, while that couldn't be less further away from the truth.

 Finally, someone makes some sense and understands that doing crime has consequences.