Drugs and Los Santos

[Jeroen]

3 hours ago, Local Head said:

Guys, almost everything you said on here is very true and you're right, but I don't get why so many people are advocating for the removal of drug HP?  It would be the last nail in the coffin for illegal drug trade. Yes, ideally players should be roleplaying around drugs for the RP over the HP it gives you, but unfortunately you can't expect that from people, so why take the usefulness out of drugs? 

The illegal drug trade existed before drug HP and it will exist after drug HP.

What removing drug HP does is remove a meta that people use to win fights, as many who use it for this purpose don't RP the effects or consequences of drugs anyways.

[Airwalk]

2 hours ago, Jeroen said:

The illegal drug trade existed before drug HP and it will exist after drug HP.

 

Sure it will, but it'll also take a huge hit because the amount of people roleplaying around drugs for the sake of roleplaying around drugs and not some kind of advantage is very small.

[noel]

+1 on defining the property quantities of ‘1pc’ of liquid codeine (and other drugs). 

 

This whole ‘piece’ system seems dumb anyway, I don’t know why everything can’t just be in grams/floz/no. of pills based on the drug. It would certainly prevent confusion where people are rping 1pc of liquid codeine as a whole pint.

Edited September 4 by noel

[nwiomii]

4 minutes ago, noel said:

+1 on defining the property quantities of ‘1pc’ of liquid codeine (and other drugs). 

 

This whole ‘piece’ system seems dumb anyway, I don’t know why everything can’t just be in grams/floz/no. of pills based on the drug. It would certainly prevent confusion where people are rping 1pc of liquid codeine as a whole pint.

so true

[_187]

not enough people consume drugs. At times it's drug dealers trading guns and drugs with other drug dealers...

[Mecovy]

4 hours ago, _187 said:

not enough people consume drugs. At times it's drug dealers trading guns and drugs with other drug dealers...

yup, because steps were taken to "protect" illegal RP and the drug market, but since the community wasn't entirely involved in the discussion and decision, those steps cratered any hope for a demand to begun to take root. 

 

i'll keep saying it until I'm banned, legalize marijuana and create a system that benefits illegal groups whilst also allowing legal groups to get involved in the RP, think big industrial grows getting infiltrated by illegal groups to skim product for 1/4 the price of the legal shit, think restaurants that could RP around marijuana like restaurants interact with marijuana in the real world. Whilst its not a gateway drug irl, you can very easily build a system that makes marijuana a gateway to creating a wider demand. But the wrong people occupy the right positions with the wrong mentality; the community should ALWAYS be involved in major discussions and their experience and opinions should genuinely be held up and valued to bring about meaningful change. Not their opinions being taken at lesser value in order for considerably less people with varied degree's of experience to decide how it should be shaped.

 

 

[Koko]

Repeat after me:

 

Loads of legal/"mallrat" RPers are game to consume weed, coke and things like oxy 100% for the RP, but plugs are fickle and the drug market is unreasonably aggressive towards non-hood chars.

 

Hood youths should be discouraged by their OGs from trying to scam upper middle class recreational users at the faction level.

 

The problem is drug plugs generally dont care about the roleplay, they care about gamifying the process.

 

A savvy, straight plug that knows how to approach the nightclub market beyond whispering randoms in a club would easily make a serious killing if they moved drugs to rich areas for wannabe tough DJs and club owners to resell to their bimbo friends who dont feel safe buying drugs from an unknown banger. 

Edited September 4 by Koko

[mj2002]

I have characters that use drugs, but its difficult to find people who sell them. FB has a lot of offers, but these characters don't stay in the game for very long.

[Juggin]

6 minutes ago, Koko said:

Repeat after me:

 

Loads of legal/"mallrat" RPers are game to consume weed, coke and things like oxy 100% for the RP, but plugs are fickle and the drug market is unreasonably aggressive towards non-hood chars.

 

Hood youths should be discouraged by their OGs from trying to scam upper middle class recreational users at the faction level.

 

The problem is drug plugs generally dont care about the roleplay, they care about gamifying the process.

 

A savvy, straight plug that knows how to approach the nightclub market beyond whispering randoms in a club would easily make a serious killing if they moved drugs to rich areas for wannabe tough DJs and club owners to resell to their bimbo friends. 

literally fam i did this once this is where da real money at, trynna resell to the hood n find junkies in the hood of LS is harder.

the legal rpers like consuming drugs way more then youd think and thats bc they actually like to RP,

hood dudes will not RP consuming hard drugs like coke, meth, etc cuz it is frowned upon OOC/in the real world but it is way more common than you think for people to have little secrets here n there

[Koko]

2 minutes ago, Juggin said:

literally fam i did this once this is where da real money at, trynna resell to the hood n find junkies in the hood of LS is harder.

the legal rpers like consuming drugs way more then youd think and thats bc they actually like to RP,

hood dudes will not RP consuming hard drugs like coke, meth, etc cuz it is frowned upon OOC/in the real world but it is way more common than you think for people to have little secrets here n there

 

100%, also legal RPers generally have high paying jobs or fat bank accounts and feel nothing spending 1000s at a time for portrayal.

 

Your average soldier is clinging to their one gun or its game over.