Why (or should) can the death penalty be handed to a character that PLAYER-KILLED Officers?

[prison isnt bad]

not to be an asshole but he got charged for four different capital murders...  he deserved the death penalty. 

 

i just believe that it should be a voluntary thing, people shouldnt be forced off to ck as some may want to keep the character to roleplay in prison. but yes, if you want to take the death penalty, you should be able to do so - and in this case, makes sense. 

 

55 minutes ago, Sanctus said:

DONT DO THE CRIME IF YOU CANT TAKE THE TIME, EN SERIO

 

[Smurf]

Now I do agree with 90% of people in this thread, I will be pointing out a similar case but it doesn't pertain to LEO being slain but four gang affiliated kids being killed by an individual during an attack. He was charged with 4 counts of first degree murder. But death penalty.
 

He accepted his fate and plead guilty the moment it happened and continued to RP on the character serving a 9999 day sentence indefinitely. What's the difference here? Just because 4 LEOs were killed, whats the difference from them getting killed vs 4 kids? It's just salt of a cop char's player losing so horribly bad. If anything, start charging TGS chars with the death penalty because that's a gang notorious for shooting LEO chars. It's not even me poking fun at it, as cop players should know you fuck around you'll find out.

[munnezza]

30 minutes ago, pateuvasiliu said:

He's given Death Penalty because he hit the Criminal Points treshold of 25  ( and this is how it should be, else you can murder people every week and keep getting out of prison after a short prison stay which is stupid )  not because he PKed 4 cops. 

And the people wanting cops to get CKed are insane. Nobody should get CKed for doing their job. The criminal chooses to murder cops, cops have no control over whether they are murdered.

The very realistic risks of being a cop. You're acting like cops didn't sign up to fucking shootouts when they went through the academy. Your "job" is to engage violent, and often armed, criminals. 

 

Again, I reiterate what I've said previously in another thread. Cops are not more important, and they're not doing anyone a service just for being LEOs, you're doing it for fun (i hope) like anyone else. I don't mean to accuse anyone of anything, but the server is not catered to be somebody's personal LSPDFR experience, other players are not NPCs and their characters, no matter what you believe, are as important as any other one.

 

 

 

Edited November 22, 2023 by munnezza

[waterwings]

Just now, Smurf said:

Now I do agree with 90% of people in this thread, I will be pointing out a similar case but it doesn't pertain to LEO being slain but four gang affiliated kids being killed by an individual during an attack. He was charged with 4 counts of first degree murder. But death penalty.
 

He accepted his fate and plead guilty the moment it happened and continued to RP on the character serving a 9999 day sentence indefinitely. What's the difference here? Just because 4 LEOs were killed, whats the difference from them getting killed vs 4 kids? It's just salt of a cop char's player losing so horribly bad. If anything, start charging TGS chars with the death penalty because that's a gang notorious for shooting LEO chars. It's not even me poking fun at it, as cop players should know you fuck around you'll find out.

Death penalty was removed by SAGOV for 2 years. In that time, it wouldn't of applied. It was recently reinstated.

[Xantholic]

2 minutes ago, munnezza said:

The very realistic risks of being a cop. You're acting like cops didn't sign up to fucking shootouts when they went through the academy. Your "job" is to engage violent, and often armed, criminals. 

facts lol

[Xantholic]

32 minutes ago, pateuvasiliu said:

And the people wanting cops to get CKed are insane. Nobody should get CKed for doing their job. The criminal chooses to murder cops, cops have no control over whether they are murdered.

Cops do have control over whether they are murdered. They have the self control to recognize that a situation might not go their way and back off to call backup. If they fail to rp fear, they should be cked.

[pateuvasiliu]

11 minutes ago, munnezza said:

The very realistic risks of being a cop. You're acting like cops didn't sign up to fucking shootouts when they went through the academy. Your "job" is to engage violent, and often armed, criminals. 

 

Actually my job is to roleplay a character who happens to be a cop, and getting CKed because someone decided to shoot up 4 cops at a traffic stop would result in the server having 0 cops ( because who in their right mind would invest time and effort in a character that can be killed at someone else's whim ) and being a 24/7 "The Purge" real quick. Now maybe you can't comprehend why that is bad, but it would kill the server real quick.

As a criminal, shooting a cop is a choice. As a cop, getting shot at is not. If you can't tell the difference and why those two situations are not treated equally by the rules of the server, that's not my problem.

Edited November 22, 2023 by pateuvasiliu

[ZaE]

11 minutes ago, prison isnt bad said:

not to be an asshole but he got charged for four different capital murders...  he deserved the death penalty. 

 

i just believe that it should be a voluntary thing, people shouldnt be forced off to ck as some may want to keep the character to roleplay in prison. but yes, if you want to take the death penalty, you should be able to do so - and in this case, makes sense. 

 

 

He isn't mad at the death penalty he's mad that the cops aren't held at CKs too.

[FatBoyTrell]

10 minutes ago, Smurf said:

He accepted his fate and plead guilty the moment it happened and continued to RP on the character serving a 9999 day sentence indefinitely. What's the difference here? Just because 4 LEOs were killed, whats the difference from them getting killed vs 4 kids? It's just salt of a cop char's player losing so horribly bad. If anything, start charging TGS chars with the death penalty because that's a gang notorious for shooting LEO chars. It's not even me poking fun at it, as cop players should know you fuck around you'll find out.

 

9 minutes ago, munnezza said:

The very realistic risks of being a cop. You're acting like cops didn't sign up to fucking shootouts when they went through the academy. Your "job" is to engage violent, and often armed, criminals. 

 

Again, I reiterate what I've said previously in another thread. Cops are not more important, and they're not doing anyone a service just for being LEOs, you're doing it for fun (i hope) like anyone else. I don't mean to accuse anyone of anything, but the server is not catered to be somebody's personal LSPDFR experience, other players are not NPCs and their characters, no matter what you believe, are as important as any other one.

Very great takes. Cops aren't special just because they are Cops. 
 

[taytay]

17 minutes ago, prison isnt bad said:

not to be an asshole but he got charged for four different capital murders...  he deserved the death penalty. 

 

i just believe that it should be a voluntary thing, people shouldnt be forced off to ck as some may want to keep the character to roleplay in prison. but yes, if you want to take the death penalty, you should be able to do so - and in this case, makes sense. 

 

 

Not to be an asshole but considering the way this was handled If It depended on me? Situation would be voided and the LEO's handling the situation would be warned for no fear rp or CK'ed


"

- Cops pull up on wanted criminal

- In the backstreet of a gang-infested project building

- Jorge Nava enters said project building after wanted criminal retreats inside, the entrance is guarded by two presumably well known affiliates of said gang and there are several other shady people running around

- Project building may as well be a fortress, two exits, one on either side, elevated positions all around

- Cops all get killed, one of them stops running to press his panic button and fails, but does it anyway after being dead

- 4 dead cops after they predictably get annihilated by an inferior force because they tried to force the issue of the arrest somewhere that didn't favor them at all

"

Edited November 22, 2023 by taytay