Why (or should) can the death penalty be handed to a character that PLAYER-KILLED Officers?

[ZaE]

3 minutes ago, Airwalk said:

 

dont just edit your post after the fact and try being slick by insulting me, not cool

I didnt edit anything regarding what you call “insults”. I left my impairment comment right there because it could genuinely be the reason you didnt see the 1000 other posts on this thread saying that Demaine likes the RP, liked being caught, has coopertaed and roleplayed with whomever asked and hasnt stalled or stopped not once. I dont understand how its hard for some of yall to understand?

 

it wasnt meant to be rude rather trying to find the answer to why you cant understand a simple point thats been repeated multiple times and would rather jump at any attempt to derail this into talking about his outfit and the gun he had, thats not about this. This is a discussion about whether this is right or not and i would argue the answer has been given and Demaine is working on the proper steps to have this handled behind closed doors, which is how the entire faction has been operating in terms of OOC prescence
 

ill say it again;

 

Demaine Jopp likes this ending to the character. He just wants it to be done fairly. 

Edited November 23, 2023 by ZaE

[SaintBatemanofWallStreet]

Well if he's happy with it, I doubt he needs you making all these excuses on his behalf. Because whether you think you are or aren't - you are.

 

 

And if he's happy with the character getting caught, then he should probably understand that a quadruple murder is more than likely a death sentence in most states.

[ZaE]

4 minutes ago, SaintBatemanofWallStreet said:

Well if he's happy with it, I doubt he needs you making all these excuses on his behalf. Because whether you think you are or aren't - you are.

 

 

And if he's happy with the character getting caught, then he should probably understand that a quadruple murder is more than likely a death sentence in most states.

Just because he’s happy with it doesn’t mean he shouldn’t weed out the wrongs and rights of the scenario. He and the rest of our faction thinks the that if he gets the death penalty itll just be used as a excuse to ck any illegal character police dont like. which this thread has only fueled into with that belief.

 

ill say it again; 

 

Demaine Jopp knows and understands the consequences of his actions, he enjoys them and was looking forward to making his character a black car affiliate, he doesnt even mind being CKed so long as the cops that are the base of the case CK too. Why should the faction have to run into the three cops that got killed by Demaine Jopp again? Thats puts a brick on the roleplay and makes it less tasteful

 

this thread has been made to shed light on something that could be used problematicly against ALL illegal roleplayers.

 

hope that sheds some

light for you all

Edited November 23, 2023 by ZaE

[SaintBatemanofWallStreet]

1 minute ago, ZaE said:

Just because he’s happy with it doesn’t mean he shouldn’t weed out the wrongs and rights of the scenario. He and the rest of our faction thinks the that if he gets the death penalty itll just be used as a excuse to ck any illegal character police dont like. which this thread has only fueled into with that belief 

 

So we're back to the age old argument of not wanting to accept the consequences for our actions, even though guy in this thread clearly wants to. You think it's only fair to get a pound of flesh from the 4 officers he shot.

[Mór-Ríoghain]

Just now, SaintBatemanofWallStreet said:

 

So we're back to the age old argument of not wanting to accept the consequences for our actions, even though guy in this thread clearly wants to. You think it's only fair to get a pound of flesh from the 4 officers he shot.

Consequences for what, though? If I die in the line of duty, granted I'm not being a heroic, suicidal moron, the worst I'm getting is an hour off duty. I respawn. 

[AnthonyCourtney]

3 minutes ago, SaintBatemanofWallStreet said:

 

So we're back to the age old argument of not wanting to accept the consequences for our actions, even though guy in this thread clearly wants to. You think it's only fair to get a pound of flesh from the 4 officers he shot.

But Demaine is accepting the consequences of his actions, the officers aren't, or at least, haven't been forced to like Jopp has. That's the entire point.

 

He shot them, they died, he went to court, he dies. CK for CK? Fine.

He shot them, they died and respawn, he goes to court, he dies and doesn't. PK for CK. Not fine.

 

Edit: Agreed that this thread can go. At this point anybody arguing over such a clear cut issue is just doing it for the sake of argument.

Edited November 23, 2023 by AnthonyCourtney

[ZaE]

1 minute ago, SaintBatemanofWallStreet said:

 

So we're back to the age old argument of not wanting to accept the consequences for our actions, even though guy in this thread clearly wants to. You think it's only fair to get a pound of flesh from the 4 officers he shot.

Im not arguing with you cause you haven’t read a single thing 😂 

 

Somebody lock this thread 💀💀

Edited November 23, 2023 by ZaE

[SaintBatemanofWallStreet]

1 minute ago, AnthonyCourtney said:

But Demaine is accepting the consequences of his actions, the officers aren't, or at least, haven't been forced to like Jopp has. That's the entire point.

 

He shot them, they died, he went to court, he dies. CK for CK? Fine.

He shot them, they died and respawn, he goes to court, he dies and doesn't. PK for CK. Not fine.

 

So it comes to, 4 CK for 1 CK is fine.

 

But 1 CK for 4 PK, hold on that's totally not fair...

 

My point here is you can't sit and preach fairness when you're not sitting on the fairness argument to begin with.

[ZaE]

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2 minutes ago, SaintBatemanofWallStreet said:

 

So it comes to, 4 CK for 1 CK is fine.

 

But 1 CK for 4 PK, hold on that's totally not fair...

 

My point here is you can't sit and preach fairness when you're not sitting on the fairness argument to begin with.

How is that not fair? You want a person to face consequences of CKs when they only preformed PKs. I dont know what fairness argument ur standing on but looking down i see a pretty clear cut box. 
 

If you want somebody to suffer a CK the victims should CK too. If it was 2 victims? 2 CK. 4 victims? They CK. If they dont CK the death penalty shouldnt be pushed, just give him a life sentence. 
 

 

Edited November 23, 2023 by ZaE

[AnthonyCourtney]

4 minutes ago, SaintBatemanofWallStreet said:

 

So it comes to, 4 CK for 1 CK is fine.

 

But 1 CK for 4 PK, hold on that's totally not fair...

 

My point here is you can't sit and preach fairness when you're not sitting on the fairness argument to begin with.

That's the consequences of the officers not exercising any care in how they executed the warrant on Jopp. If only 1 had died, then the argument would be 1:1, since 4 died, it has to be 4:1.

 

The numbers don't really matter, it could be half of the LSPD and half the Brims for all I care. What matters is that PKs cannot be traded for CKs.

Edited November 23, 2023 by AnthonyCourtney