Why (or should) can the death penalty be handed to a character that PLAYER-KILLED Officers?

[Koko]

10 hours ago, Xantholic said:

If you're going to CK someone for a murder, the victim should have been CKed first, otherwise it's just unfair in my opinion.

 

quoted for truth

[Pistachio]

3 hours ago, perico princess said:

Cops should also face the death penalty. I've been pulled over because I had 3 other passengers before. Should've been an easy traffic stop and everyone should go their own way. Instead you have a female cop beating up a minor, flashing her gun and getting it admin voided because she was shot for abusing her power instead of fearing  the other occupants.  @SweetDaffodil

Not to mention said female cop using her canine to intimidate and threaten our characters 🥴

[perico princess]

Just now, SweetDaffodil said:

Not to mention said female cop using her canine to intimidate and threaten our characters 🥴

Thats why Taylor Morales got shot in the cock 

[PeopleKind]

As an LEO main, I disagree with the death penalty being a default judgement for non CKs to an extent. However I'm also unaware of the specifics of this entire fiasco so I'm going off my own personal opinion here. I feel like if the person facing the death penalty is okay with it on an OOC basis, then by all means proceed. But if the LEO is not CKed, then a CK should not be given in return UNLESS the suspect absolutely deserves it & it's fair or they agree with it. From what I understand, someone killed 4 cops & got the death sentence. I don't see an issue with it on that front. But if they got the death sentence for killing a single cop? That'd be a different story all together.

 

Life Imprisonment is 100% acceptable for the type of crime, but to forcefully CK someone via death sentence when the victim didn't CK as well? That doesn't really sit right with me. The death penalty for Capital Murder if the government employee CKs is 100% fair, CK for a CK, I don't think anyone thinks that would be a bad move. But a CK for a single PK is just... a bit much in my opinion. CK's for PK's should only be given on extremely rare and specific situations. Which I'm sure is what the goal is with these rulings. But again, I'm not sure.

 

It's easy to forget that this is a game, and we're all here to have fun. I'd much rather criminals & legal RPers get along & work together on an OOC level instead of this constant OOC battle between the two sides of RP, that does nothing but tear a community apart.

 

Once again, let me stress that I have absolutely zero idea of the specifics of any of the death sentence rulings or any situations currently on going, this is just my own opinion as an LEO main.

Edited November 23, 2023 by PeopleKind

[Naryu]

Life in prison and the death penalty,  in our little universe here on GTA World , is effectively the same thing.

 

That character is being removed from the public open world permanently,  and there's a whole another world in prison,  but someone with life in prison will never become part of the streets of GTA World again.

 

The only difference is that the character will be allowed to take part in prison RP, forever, basically instead of not being able to do anything at all.

 

I think life in prison should be the maximum punishment, and let CKs stay as they are.

[joshua]

question for illegal faction players, if someone from another set PKs a few people in your set, would you/could you file a CK app on that person? (& is that likely to be approved?). just want to know how "equal" this situation is

[Xantholic]

4 minutes ago, joshua said:

question for illegal faction players, if someone from another set PKs a few people in your set, would you/could you file a CK app on that person?

No, we'd simply roleplay that a group of individuals from our specific gang were gunned down, eventually PK that person, and move on.

[joshua]

1 minute ago, Xantholic said:

No, we'd simply roleplay that a group of individuals from our specific gang were gunned down, eventually PK that person, and move on.

 

assuming that this is the standard, I don't see why the death penalty is being used to CK characters that PKd cops. seems unfair!

[soudiere]

4 hours ago, gang enthusiast said:

With that being said, I would much rather an IC solution such as more police presence in areas targeting gangs that are shooting cops but as a result you're going to get more general discussion threads; "Why are cops camping Davis?" "Why aren't these cops RPing fear?". 

I can't think of many illegal RP'ers, especially gang RP'ers, that would mind this if the amount of K-9's got toned down and LEO characters actually got CK'd for lack of fear.

 

 

Edited November 23, 2023 by soudiere

[jromjeksin]

1 hour ago, PeopleKind said:

As an LEO main, I disagree with the death penalty being a default judgement for non CKs to an extent. However I'm also unaware of the specifics of this entire fiasco so I'm going off my own personal opinion here. I feel like if the person facing the death penalty is okay with it on an OOC basis, then by all means proceed. But if the LEO is not CKed, then a CK should not be given in return UNLESS the suspect absolutely deserves it & it's fair or they agree with it. From what I understand, someone killed 4 cops & got the death sentence. I don't see an issue with it on that front. But if they got the death sentence for killing a single cop? That'd be a different story all together.

 

Life Imprisonment is 100% acceptable for the type of crime, but to forcefully CK someone via death sentence when the victim didn't CK as well? That doesn't really sit right with me. The death penalty for Capital Murder if the government employee CKs is 100% fair, CK for a CK, I don't think anyone thinks that would be a bad move. But a CK for a single PK is just... a bit much in my opinion. CK's for PK's should only be given on extremely rare and specific situations. Which I'm sure is what the goal is with these rulings. But again, I'm not sure.

 

It's easy to forget that this is a game, and we're all here to have fun. I'd much rather criminals & legal RPers get along & work together on an OOC level instead of this constant OOC battle between the two sides of RP, that does nothing but tear a community apart.

 

Once again, let me stress that I have absolutely zero idea of the specifics of any of the death sentence rulings or any situations currently on going, this is just my own opinion as an LEO main.

I agree. If you PK a cop it should just be a PK. Depending on your record, if you get a lengthy sentence or even life, I can live with that. If you decide you're gonna commit multiple counts of capital murder over a petty gun charge and they catch you, you deserve to be sentenced to death/CKed. I think killing a bunch of cops instead of spending an hour in jail for an illegal gun is a bit much if you're doing it pretty often. Again, while I'm not a part of LFM/DAO, I think they reserve the death penalty for special cases and pretty rare occasions. I can see the incident being highlighted as one of them. It's kinda the same treatment you get when you shoot your way out of a situation to avoid the consequences of your actions or even as a cop if you decide to do some super-cop style shit and get killed. Both instances should result in a CK imo.

Edited November 23, 2023 by jromjeksin