Why (or should) can the death penalty be handed to a character that PLAYER-KILLED Officers?

[pateuvasiliu]

12 minutes ago, Quincy said:

lower the punishments given to the criminals.

 

How much lower should those punishments be exactly? You already get out after 2 weeks of prison, to the point where we have 20something characters with multiple murder charges under their belt. What do you want exactly, zero jail time? The crime on this server is a joke difficulty wise, considering there are barely any cameras in Los Santos and we're not allowed to use technology that helps identify suspects.

If someone murders 4 people in broad daylight and does so in a way which can be proven in court even with our incredibly nerfed investigative tools, they should absolutely get clapped by the law.

[Airwalk]

24 minutes ago, Quincy said:

my character (unknown to me at that time) was being investigated by cops.

 

24 minutes ago, Quincy said:

Knowing if I get tased it's game over

 

[brimifulweather]

2 hours ago, taytay said:

Why did the LEO hit the panic button after he died?

 

[brimifulweather]

Just now, Airwalk said:

 

has nothing to do with "comprehending basic english" but since you wanna be cute about it

 

i was commenting on your ability to communicate in english, or lack thereof by stating that you "were unaware of the investigation" but "knew it was over" if you got tased

 

3 minutes ago, Quincy said:

Let me put this into perspective so you can comprehend basic english.

 

I did not know they were after me, hence why I came to check in what's up. When they told me to "come over there" while pulling out tasers, I instantly ran away.

 

The shootout was initiated because had I been tased? I would've either got put in cuffs, or another person from my faction would've shot at them (starting the same type of big shootout) considering the power dynamic we had over them in certain situation.

Can we please keep it civil?

[AnthonyCourtney]

Just noticed that Wilsan Booker literally shouted he was going to get his gun at the cops before they went in too.

 

https://imgur.com/a/ZF6xMbY

 

He then walked inside the project.

 

https://imgur.com/a/AXTsKP3

 

I don't know if he's with the faction or just some crackhead but that's yet another thing that should have been taken into account when deciding to bumrush the projects.

Edited November 23, 2023 by AnthonyCourtney

[FatBoyTrell]

5 minutes ago, AnthonyCourtney said:

Just noticed that Wilsan Booker literally shouted he was going to get his gun at the cops before they went in too.

 

https://imgur.com/a/ZF6xMbY

 

He then walked inside the project.

 

https://imgur.com/a/AXTsKP3

 

I don't know if he's with the faction or just some crackhead but that's yet another thing that should have been taken into account when deciding to bumrush the projects.

Edited 2 minutes ago by AnthonyCourtney

Willsan Booker is indeed with the faction, and you can even see a cop say "Got a group of about six". So they KNEW how many people were there, but still decided to take the risk. 

[Nastas]

Fact of the matter is, the law enforcement (a fair portion of it anyway) is lacking common sense when dealing with situations that would compromise the well being of their characters. Atop of that, they hinder the development of others and act richeous all the way through afterwards. If they do that then they should be subject to the same treatment, if not worse.

 

Quote

And the people wanting cops to get CKed are insane. Nobody should get CKed for doing their job. The criminal chooses to murder cops, cops have no control over whether they are murdered.

 

Stating that LEO's are just doing their job is a bad and quite frankly awful argument. The same way that LEO's earn their bread by doing their job, criminals earn it by doing illegal shit. If we go by that logic, then you should be much more prone to a CK if your character just wings an arrest and does things like wandering around Death Valley without any significant planning prior.

 

But what more do you expect from them? Some of these people failed at being a criminal ICly so they gotta play on Easy mode.

Edited November 23, 2023 by Nastas

[Red Chucks]

no cops in bhamberlain

[LeNova]

4 hours ago, pateuvasiliu said:

He's given Death Penalty because he hit the Criminal Points treshold of 25  ( and this is how it should be, else you can murder people every week and keep getting out of prison after a short prison stay which is stupid )  not because he PKed 4 cops. 

And the people wanting cops to get CKed are insane. Nobody should get CKed for doing their job. The criminal chooses to murder cops, cops have no control over whether they are murdered.

They've chosen to roleplay a criminal character*

A criminal char also befriends a lot of people, make connections, create stories and spend time in various activities without resorting to constantly illegal activities. And this also depends on what type of criminal you're portraying, the area, how smart they are, list goes on, so many factors. It's not about "It's their job or not". That's not relevant, you just portray a character whether it be a criminal, civilian or LEO...

This is not real life but roleplay. Keep it fair and square for everyone. CK for CK. Just like CK wars between rival criminal factions happen if desired.
if a criminal character is CKed, they can't simply change their name and reclaim their original rank. Instead, they must start from scratch, all the way from the bottom, investing countless hours to rebuild their reputation and work their way back up. This makes criminal roleplay more challenging, as they can lose a significant amount of stuff when CKed, unlike LEO characters who, afaik, can simply apply to regain their ranks and other attributes with a name change and they're set again. They at least have that. Sure they need to build on their relations with other characters again but that's the same for everyone.

I roleplay as a civilian but I find this stuff here really absurd. Keep it fair and square for everyone?

[soudiere]

It's absolutely insane to me that a non-insignificant portion of LEO RP'ers say that illegal RP'ers are incapable of taking L's when it you have far more one-life characters in the illegal RP scene, and I can think of like two times tops that an LEO char got CK'd for an egregious lack of fear RP juxtaposed to the numerous amount of CK's that get handed out to illegal characters due to less egregious instances of lack of fear RP. It's not just a matter of doing their jobs, its the fact that LEO RP'ers should be held up to the same standards of illegal RP'ers.

 

And let's be completely honest, a CK for an illegal char is far more damaging than it is for an LEO RP'er. I don't know if it's still the case, but when a LEO char is CK'd, they take a few rank hits and they're still a cop.

 

Conversely, an illegal char loses any supplier roles individually tied to them, any illegal connections, are forced to start from the ground up with a given faction, lose any potential schemes and so on.

 

Honestly, I really don't mind if LEO RP'ers don't like taking L's and don't want to take them. Many illegal RP'ers are of the same mind. I just find it a little facetious that a decent chunk of LEO RP'ers continue to stand on this high ground acting as if they aren't basically illegal RP'ers with less script consequences, considering the grand majority of us end up roleplaying traumatized and desensitized characters, with roleplay that's more reactive rather than proactive and with our own fair share of individuals that engage in absurdly poor portrayal that ruin our respective RP scene's reputations (Robo-cops and low-effort DM'er characters).

Edited November 23, 2023 by soudiere