Looting essentially being removed

[Koko]

To be honest, as a first responder, working on scene in South Central with a body and having people just constantly run up next to me with a mask, spam loot with no RP and run off to see if they get lucky is just not it. Now everyone will say "just report it", like it isn't an endemic problem and every other person out there isn't trying to do it when given the chance, to then say "my character has really good reasons to try and loot" when the reasons usually amount to "I'd love some free stuff" with some vague backstory behind it.

 

6 hours to loot a body is excessive, but unless you have some kind of oversight or it's a planned hit (which I guess would give you access to the items if you talked to an admin), I don't care how good the good RPers are, the amount of loot goblins out there is just too high right now to cater to the small handful that actually RP things properly, and there should still be a 10-20 minute window where you can't loot a random body because it's assumed you're having to leave an active murder scene.

[Diogo]

Hella mixed feelings cus looting was something that happened often and was something that was exploited without people caring much on how they'd feel being around a dead body / how realistic it would be, even though it'd keep (mostly) the gun economy going due to a lot of people struggling to find a good supply line within but combating it with cooldowns isn't realistic either because as we've seen people are gonna go out their ways to stack up bodies somewhere just to loot which is even less realistic.

I've argued with a few cops that say it's a good measure because of the gun problem but wouldn't that be their IC job? Fight said gun problem.

Hard to find a good in between since there'll always be some trying to get an upper hand due to it being a game.

[Timzii]

1 hour ago, Alys said:

I'm sorry, but having to wait up to 6 hours to loot a corpse is absolutely ridiculous.

 It is, but stupid measures have to be taken to counter stupid situations that people make when they turn into loot goblins and forget the fact it's a roleplay server. People going as far as transporting injured bodies in cars to dump them somewhere just to loot them after or running into police scenes just to loot a damn body. It's stupid, it's unrealistic and people have unfortunately shown themselves as uncapable of treating a corpse riddled with bullets properly, all because there's a possibility they have a gun or drugs on them. What else could be put in place to counter the looting issue?

[Engelbert]

Looting is purely OOC based and that's what they are trying to combat with this decision. It's not roleplay and never will be. The only instance of looting, that should be allowed is passing incriminating items from a wounded individual to a friend or another gang member before LEOs arrive on the scene. Because honestly, saving up a gun from a PK'd char...it comes and goes with what you do. You win some you lose some. With the abundance of guns in projects, there shouldn't be an issue of getting a new one. Looting never been about anything, but about guns.

[Caddy]

12 minutes ago, Engelbert said:

Looting is purely OOC based and that's what they are trying to combat with this decision. It's not roleplay and never will be. The only instance of looting, that should be allowed is passing incriminating items from a wounded individual to a friend or another gang member before LEOs arrive on the scene. Because honestly, saving up a gun from a PK'd char...it comes and goes with what you do. You win some you lose some. With the abundance of guns in projects, there shouldn't be an issue of getting a new one. Looting never been about anything, but about guns.

Then they should entirely remove it, which is what they've essentialy done, without actually doing it.

Everyone knows that coroners and cops come quickly if a body is laying out in the middle of the street, and they scoop it up. The argument that people are waiting around to scoop up bodies doesn't hold up. The new update fixed those who mashed Y to loot, but bodies disappearing after every restart while at the same time needing 6 hours to pass before they can be looted is in fact, ridiculous.

Edited August 6, 2023 by Caddy

[Thekillergreece]

Certain agencies will still need to loot items for their investigations or evidence logging such as DMEC, PD, etc. Players can still loot them after a period of time.

I believe the measure imposed in place will slowly change the habit of players as it was very unhealthy since players used to prioritize looting over making sure their characters were safe after a shootout. They would even loot right in front of the police.

 

The looting epidemic was a problem for a couple of years if not more.  It'll take time to get used to it. 🙂

[Barbary]

4 minutes ago, Caddy said:

Everyone knows that coroners and cops come quickly if a body is laying out in the middle of the street, and they scoop it up.

Funny, seeing as this time last week people were saying we're a bunch of lazy fucks who don't bother with the bodies at all. Which is it?

[Caddy]

1 minute ago, Barbary said:

Funny, seeing as this time last week people were saying we're a bunch of lazy fucks who don't bother with the bodies at all. Which is it?

 

1 minute ago, Thekillergreece said:

Certain agencies will still need to loot items for their investigations or evidence logging such as DMEC, PD, etc. Players can still loot them after a period of time.

I believe the measure imposed in place will slowly change the habit of players as it was very unhealthy since players used to prioritize looting over making sure their characters were safe after a shootout. They would even loot right in front of the police.

 

The looting epidemic was a problem for a couple of years if not more.  It'll take time to get used to it. 🙂

It certainly wasn't illegal RPers that were saying it, I guarantee you that.

Ah, because these certain agencies apparently can do no wrong, but illegal roleplayers need to have their roleplay even more restricted than it already is. Every second or third major update hinders illegal roleplayers even more. What's next? 

[Engelbert]

1 minute ago, Caddy said:

Then they should entirely remove it, which is what they've essentialy done, without actually doing it.

Everyone knows that coroners and cops come quickly if a body is laying out in the middle of the street, and they scoop it up. The argument that people are waiting around to scoop up bodies doesn't hold up. The new updated fixed those who mashed Y to loot, but bodies disappearing after every restart while at the same time needing 6 hours to pass before they can be looted is in fact, ridiculous.

Actually, no they don't come quickly. Because of the amount of daily shootings and whatever, they grew tired of being called to every dead body on the server. And the argument DOES hold up. Lemme tell you why. Late morning I was parking at the city hall. There was a dead body laying on the ground, which I ignored. Moments later someone on a nice professional bicycle comes around and loots the body with words "Nice one, we eating like kings today." So here's the premise. IF people were wrongfully killed, they can ask for refund. If not, sorry items are lost. If there is a dead body and no one available to roleplay around it. Let's assumed it was NPC'd cause people do that, it happens often etc etc. This is an American city, not an Apocalyptic wasteland. If it's robbery gone wrong, robbers can ask for items, if the victim broke the rules. This is roleplay. Expect it being bit more complex, than simply playing a game.

[kristofer]

looting should've never been a thing in the first place, only promotes shit tier rp and rat mentality