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  1. Hey I'm Safe & Sound, I've been playing this server over a span of a few months now and I'd just like to spark up the topic on gang factions on the server. I've noticed a lot of MCs and mafia factions on the forums, and they're doing what they do. They're all awesome at what they're doing, honestly, in the most genuine form. I noticed that a lot of those factions that are centralized around motorcycle clubs and crime organizations get accepted more than gang factions. I asked on discord why is that and I was told that faction management really analyzes the gang apps that are sent to them thoroughly. And looking at the faction forums now, I don't doubt that, but I do have questions. Recently, I've had a handful of friends who wanted to gather together and make a faction and it got denied because of the name "Rollin 100s" and there's no 100-199th Street in game. My leader replied to you guys and asked why was there a 20s, 60s and 40s to which Ethanol replied that it was a continuity error that's getting "fixed." Another friend of mine went on to try and make the Normandie clique for the Mara Salvatrucha 13 gang on here and the idea got denied because there isn't a place called "Normandie" in the game. The faction then went on to make their thread after something else "Tiny Winos." Again, this isn't a rant thread, but an assembly of questions with very intricate arguments. All I ask is that you hear me out. Due to administrative replies, we talked over it and decided to settle for something else. I just want my questions and ideals to be addressed before we go ahead and make something and get denied again. I understand that you guys want gangs to be centralized and based on real life LA gangs on here, I get that but what I don't get is why do the names always have to cater to in-game street names. There are countless gangs in real life that are named what they are named based on the gang's historical make up. For example, the Bounty Hunter Bloods are named that not because the Nickerson Garden Projects are named Bounty Hunters, but because the OGs that created liked old western cowboy movies and went on to name their gang "Bounty Hunters" which later went under the Blood identity in the 70s and early 80s. There are numerous Rollin 60s Crip gangs across the US in different cities and states that are located nowhere near a 60th Street, same with Grape Street Watts Crips and so on. The point of me writing all of that down is because I'm not arguing with your take on gangs and how they should be structured on your streets, but I don't believe they should be turned down either. I believe the story behind the gang is most important rather than the name. The street names in game simply don't identify with what some players on the server are trying to create, which is why we take names from real life gangs and use them for our factions. Referring back to what I said about my friend and the "Normandie clique for MS-13," I believe it could've been acceptable if their Normandie clique had a reasonable background as to why it would be called that. Another gang that was propose to your faction management team was 18th Street, it got denied because their is no 18th Street in game, yet in real life the "18" is spread out across different states and cities like the aforementioned gangs. And again, I don't believe it's a matter of location but a matter of thorough research and realistic exhibition of gang roleplay. For instance, the Rollin 100s Crip gang on here could've been could've been called Rollin 100s based on a different reason than that of the real life LA street gang. It'd be spin-off and a recreation at the same time. Not every two things has to match every time, just look at Grand Theft Auto V itself. It's based after LA obviously and parts of the map were manipulated by Rockstar Games to physically identify as LA, but was named something fictional to sell the idea of realism to the player. So why not do the same with the gangs as well? Make it look like the real life gang but with a different reasoning as to why the hood was created in a seemingly realistic faction story. I mean, we already have a Rollin 60s Neighborhood Crip and in the past we've had R20s Bloods and R40s Crips as well. The people I surround myself with actually enjoy playing GTA World, and would like to create an appealing gang roleplay community here. All I ask is for there to be a way for faction apps to be a bit more lenient to those who try to provide effort into creating their own gang on here? Especially if they've created their own story and did their own research on the gang, again referring to my MS-13 friend who has done tons of research on the MS-13 itself because of his intense interest in MS-13, 18th Street and Sureno gangs. It demotivates the likes of those with their own ideas of what they want to create. I mean, if faction management sees no reason to let us create these things, could there at least be some type of trial and error system in faction applications? Like sending the faction thread with a RP screenshot or some type of media to be sent with it to let the faction handlers see what point of view the faction's leader is coming from?
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