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It’s not a new meta, it’s been going on for a while. Ever since they banned robberies via dirt bike and all that. But yeah, it’s ridiculous.

What amazes me the most is that we have an extraordinary amount of people who all agree there is a problem. That has to be the single most telling thing in this thread. We’ve made it past the usual issue and reached a tipping point where people are just tired of this situation. 20 pages. TWENTY and we’re still discussing this in a civil manner. Id say if that’s not a cry for change that signals something is really wrong, I don’t know what is. Thanks 🙏

Big time agree. It’s the QUALITY of the RP that’s the issue. That and I’m convinced that a majority of robberies are OOC’ly motivated. There are some great illegal RP’ers out there but they are overshadowed by the script item hunters hiding behind their wall of “it’s for the RP”. No it’s not. Trucking makes this glaringly obvious. It is known that truckers don’t have to carry cash anymore but they are frequently targeted anyways because why? People assume they are carrying guns and/or drugs. This isn’t an IC motivation in most cases. Going on convoys to rob truckers is ridiculous. Sure it may happen, but not DAILY. This isn’t the 50’s where you’re robbing bootleggers for their stash. I’m not sure there is a fix to this either. You can’t change a mentality that’s far too gone at this point without some major and potentially upsetting changes. IFM won’t do it. That’s apparent already because we’ve arrived at this point.

LOL 60 minute ajail. Wtf 😳 dude should’ve gotten banned straight up.

Good starting point.

Priceless lol. 👏👏👏

Property inflation is already happening and it's going to get worse. Nothing is going to stop that.

Problem is that garages need a shit ton of components because their parts use twice as many components now. Garages have a hard time staying open because even with the open trucking order, they still can't get enough components to stay open more than an hour or so. They aren't exploiting anything, they are desperate to get enough crates to stay open on a consistent basis. It's not their fault that there simply aren't enough truckers to keep their components stocked. Revert the change to mechanic shops first and you'll see those orders come down because they won't need restocks so desperately.

How dare you suggest something logical that makes sense. I am offended. Support ++++

1) Tier the alarms to alert security companies first (if there is one or someone online from that security company), police second. Get rid of this "reliability" crap based on how much the alarm costs. 2) Introduce false positives. 3) Increase timers on the alarms before anyone is alerted, so that the criminals have more time to play it out. The admin can always choose to take a different direction at their own discretion based on the quality of RP being presented during the break-in. Boom. All this other stuff is just way over complicated.

This is definitely one of the core issues. The change that mechanic shops have with parts using twice as many components has created the issue of garages always needing massive amounts of components. As a result, they take precedence over any other store or business, especially with three of them in the city so close to the supply points at the docks. Why take longer deliveries for the same price when you don’t have to? That’s the trucker logic. Hell, I’ve even seen stores with bonuses get ignored because truckers can still make more money completing more deliveries to the closest mechanic shops in the same amount of time. Other issue is that the trucking script is just plain boring. Whether or not companies create the occasional RP drivers, it’s mainly a very repetitive job with little to no interaction when you’re out on the road. You repeat the same pick up and drop off /me lines, just reworded each time to avoid going insane. People only last so long before moving on to better things.

It's this right here. It's a race to get as many deliveries as possible so they can make more money. Most places that offer the base 250 or are too far away from the supply points won't get any deliveries unless they increase their crate prices. Places that are really far from the supply points sometimes have a hard time getting crates even with a higher crate price. People just don't want to drive that far when they can deliver to businesses right around the corner from the supply points, especially when a few of those are mechanic shops and always in need of component crates.

It would take a bit of time to gain traction, but the creativity aspect will take over and then I think it would take off faster than lightning. This has far reaching benefits for all facets of role play. Legal, illegal and everything in between. Totally support this idea. Just keep it simple as this suggestion lays it out, no need to make a complicated system.

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It's unsurprising considering FM officially ruled that the IC population is to be RP'd as whoever is physically online. If no one is around, we are told to RP that no one is around. So in fact, the current meta is that when we log off, no one exists. Apparently if it were done any other way, it would be detrimental to criminal RP (FM's words, not mine). So it's not a surprise this is not considered under the current suggestion. In no way do I agree with this stance, but it is what it is.

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100% hit the nail on the head. Glad someone gets it.

This all seems overly complicated. All this is going to do is turn the alarm system into another thing to grind and further encourage a grinding mentality just so people can keep a decent alarm in their house. Completely disagree with this. I'm all for revamping the system to allow for criminals who break in to have more time to enjoy the RP, but this isn't it. Reform the break-in system and hire a sub-team that's solely dedicated to spectating break-ins in order to improve response time on break-in requests. Reform the system to allow for people to RP'ly install security systems and alarms through IC pricing dictated by IC security companies, then add this information to the /stashinfo or /pinfo for the spectating Admin to use discretion as required. Reform police response so that an army doesn't have to show up every time some small-time house robber wants to steal a few things. Add in personal items that can be stolen from a property for people to be able to turn around and sell, either script wise or to other players (TV's, stereo, jewelry, etc). This can help take the focus off of targeting houses solely for drugs or guns. Give them something else to focus on. I think this whole thing can be approached a different way without all the proposed changes that I feel are just far too complicated and unnecessary.

I can only imagine with everything else that Admins are busy with, making time to be present during a robbery is probably not on the top of their to-do list unfortunately. It's not just to be around, but they need to be focused and paying attention to make sure RP is up to standard and verify where things may be hidden (especially when 9/10 properties have no stash info). The only two things I could come up with is one, require a /stashinfo for properties that have items hidden. Not just a guideline, but make it something that is punishable if it's not there. Put it in the rules so an Admin doesn't have to try and sort that out via their own discretion during a robbery. The other is sort of what you already suggested. Attempt to hire a sub-team and train them with the sole purpose of overseeing break-ins. This is probably the least complicated solution as it doesn't require anything besides more staff and training.

Warzone or not --- in the interests of everyone's RP experience don't inject yourself into a situation, such as a shooting, that has nothing to do with you. To me, it's common courtesy. More than likely that is multiple character's stories that have been building up for quite some time that we know nothing about. If it's two rival gangs shooting at each other, let them shoot at each other and take cover like a normal human being rather than being Rambo. Plus, why would you want to get in the middle of gangs shooting at each other? Just butt out and let it be.

It literally says that in the main suggestion lol In any case, prices are ridiculous. Id have to sell my property to afford a semi-decent alarm. Doesn’t sound very productive.

It's also not hard to add this in, I'd imagine. What would it harm? It's not like some massive development is needed for this to work. Plus, it will free up the queue much faster than waiting for a PM member to clear it. Work smarter, not harder.

Did you see @Keane’s post? Definitely need to consider those pointe as well.