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Updates to the last suggestions from Community Meeting February 2024!
- Property requests businesses being available to be on a spreadsheet for players to easily see what businesses are available (no pictures yet, no locations yet) ETA: Either this upcoming property cycle, or next one for sure moving forward
- House requests spreadsheet being done with a list of available houses w/ pictures and locations available (will be given out the week prior to houses opening up)
- Working on a way to let players know what types of businesses were not accepting NEW ones (easier to know) such as mechanic, pawnshops, airsofts (all I can think of right now)
- 24/7s getting monthly related new items from PM (starting in April), to make them more livelier and selling unique items that hopefully will attract more customers / roleplay to them
- Mechanic NPC (where it's being closed when players don't know where the open garage is) still being discussed on how to improve this, but NickM may have a GOOD solution, we're still working out the kinks / needs to be talked about amongst the PM leads
- No update on lease-to-buy in game, I think this is more of a developer thing to work on anyway
- Small updates on adding the high-end vehicles back to the leasing list, however, still no ETA - if anyone has any ideas tell them to hit me up (on how to make it a better selective process) (word this better)
- The #new-vehicles was updated with a spreadsheet, please check the spreadsheet prior to posting a vehicle - if the vehicle is not on the spreadsheet, definitely post it in there and it'll get reviewed! Wuhtah plans on going through the rest of them in the 2 week break we get with no requests flowing in
- Reminder if they want modding for their businesses, they need to wait 6 months and then approach a PM lead FIRST - do not go directly to a modder
- We've made SERVER-OWNED stores that will come out in an announcement after the meeting (no one can apply to them, but people can /bjoin for IC experience) https://discord.com/channels/467725891779428352/612583030439018497/1221200188652126280
Mapping updates!
- Can apply to become a mapper on the UCP. Same thing on the forums of how you apply now, just on the UCP now!
- Working on an alt-to-alt mapping request (especially for the mappers). Simple assigning it from our end type of request so it's more automated and you don't need to wait so long.
Item schemes & budgets are now out -- we're working on making it better.
Landlords
- Everything for Landlords is done! No reason for why it's not opened.. other than Selena is mapping one of the smaller complexes. Once that's done, we are going to open it up!
- Selena suggested a landlord panel in game - a lot of functionality to it and she has given it to a developer that she said she was going to name drop.... BUT SHE DIDN'T?
Rule Changes
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We are doing an overhaul - a majority have been done. Just mapping rules to be finished now. Are there any rules you want some clarity on? Changes?
- Issue with property rules of selling properties for whichever after 6+ months, Selena & Nervous have been speaking on it, but it's currently staying.
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What rules are we getting rid of?
- We're condensing the rules, and rules we haven't really upheld.
- Breakin system rule, that's just under the basic server rules so we removed it. Same wish stash notes.
- All lease rules (businesses/vehicles) have been combined into one.
- Compiled property/business requests into another rule.
- Faction rules are being merged, etc.
- We had something about free items that we got out of here because ... yeah..
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Lore rules being worked on, they are going to be finalized soon!
- Not to be mistaken for law rules. British accents amirite?
- Casino Rules! Update to them - they are being implemented soon, but Nervous is attempting to play/fix with the Casino script in game. So, that needs to happen first prior to pushing the rules live. Once this is done, we'll open the casino floodgates for applying for them via LEASES.
UCP Changes/Additions/Questions
- Property transfers are done on the UCP - we're just troubleshooting ATM for bugs!
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Do we want a more tailored application for requests? Instead of a whole backstory - would it be easier for the last 3 months of development of your character.
- We're tired of reading ... the fluff. We don't like the fluff, we know you guys don't want to write the same thing.
- We want to have more direct questions perhaps. We're still looking at improvements for this for more streamline processes to make it easier on us and you guys.
Suggestions:
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Erase D10
- Would love to! But cannot.
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Are we going to be able to purchase more than 2 residential properties in future?
- Currently no, we want to put forth the landlord scheme and work on that prior to doing actual apartments where it would be harder to monitor
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Niche, I know but improvement to the professional brewing script to not require using the starting tools and equipment? If that is in the wheelhouse of PM.
- If you have suggestions to make the brewery script better, forward it to Selena to forward to the devs!
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How would you like to see legal and illegal factions using properties? Are you happy with what you see or is there things that could be better as a whole(obviously some facs will be bozos)
- We're okay with it! We liase with LFM/IFM constantly for illegals and legals getting businesses if needed.
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I think if someone is to be denied, they could get a step by step guide on how they could achieve it in the future
- We're working on this, we do touch up on how to improve your character in the denial, but we can absolutely look into this as well!
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3D Cef - movies, Tv's all that. do we have ETA..?
- Gibbz is working on it, no update yet!
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The Rockford Mall is a bit hard to navigate as to find businesses inside it's a pain. Would you ever consider putting some businesses outside of the mall in the /availableleases? Like small shops / cafe and stuff like that?
- This is something we can discuss amongst ourselves and see if we can do something like this, sure!
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So less extortion; What is the current process in which a faction can extort a business? Do they have to put in an IG report? Forum request?
- If the roleplay quality is shit, please make a forum report or IG report - we cannot add extortion rules if there's no reports.
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What's the possibility of some gas stations & 24/7's being lease businesses?
- Colorlessrainbow will add 24/7s to the next leasing cycle in April
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There are some businesses up for lease in the mall right now but when you open, people don't find which business is actually open
- make the mall easier to navigate
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Forwarded to the developers to see what we can do!
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Perhaps something at the door that could easily show?
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Maybe allow some county properties to be bought on server without any requests. I know you can say, trailer request is easy and fast (kinda) but still it requires you to go and REQUEST something. Many people just dont want to bother with that waiting and just buy property in the LS and thats it. So yeah, if you allow people to start rping on their own in the country without needing to get any aprooval, it would most likely bring more people to rp there. I think.
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We have to do this due to the limitations of county houses. We hate it ourselves, we wish it could be free to /buyproperty just like in the city, but we need to make sure county roleplayers are getting residentials. We don't require much effort in the trailer requests.
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Alright then another suggestion. What I personally experienced few months ago. I had city character and just really wanted to move to county. At least try and see what does that bring. I have changenamed and requested house in some village. It got denied for - "You just changenamed you have no hours we want to see more". I see that point of view, but I also know I made nice background story that would justify why I requested that property. So only reason I got denied was that I just changenamed. What I got out given as solution was - "request trailer"... so yeah, I just gave up and went to LS. I think it would be nice to check to do something about that.
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County homes are very hard to come by and we try to save them for county roleplayers that have been around for longer than a month. This is due homes going unused because of inactivity, bored of the concept, etc.
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One thing that I realized when I became brown, you don't get UCP notifications for inactivity and such, which would be nice for players to get
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Selena will look into this!
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Lomadias came up with the idea of a custom item script that we can tailor to what your character needs for the business - it's still in the works, but we're still checking it out!
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Will there be more cars added from the lease list into dealerships?
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Maybe, possibly! Never say never!
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(( On hold pending PM investigation, @Dreams & Nightmares - go ahead and send me a forum DM! ))
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Property Management
Cigar Supplier
Tobacco store owners and other related concepts pertaining to tobacco stores are now allowed to get cigars through Property Management via a forum post.
You'll be allowed up to 1,000 cigars per 30 days. Below are the options for cigars for now:
- Estencia (Cigar)
- La Tradicion Cubana (Cigar)
- 69 Brand (Cigar)
- Homies Sharp (Cigar)
If a player is seen to be hoarding the cigars and continually requesting for more once every 30 days, Property Management can deny the player until the first batch of cigars is almost diminished.
Please put realistic prices for the cigars themselves, or this is also subject to Property Management intervention. We are not here to micromanage, you can come up with your own sales, but please make it realistic.
Please use the following format in your request and make a post HERE. (Under MISC requests)
QuoteCharacter Name:
Property Name:
How many/what type of cigars:
ONLY ANSWER IF YOUR BUSINESS IS NOT A TOBACCO-RELATED STORE (I.E. cigar lounge):
What will the cigars be used for in your roleplay/business:
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Landlords
- Promise made for December of 2023 to come out - AHA, you guys thought, that was a "delusion"
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It's finally done - it will be RELEASED SUNDAY - 25/FEB/2024
- Bare minimum of landlording right now - we are releasing 3 landlording complexes for now
- These will be accessible via UCP to request for
- System will gradually improve as the apps come in and as we settle out the kinks, so please be patient
- Landlord app is quite simple, you can check it out in the PM discord template channel, thank Lomadias as she told Selena "bro can we chill on this"
- Only able to do apartments for now - RENTING only, there is a potential for selling in the future as we discuss it and create rules amongst the team
- We may add pictures in the future, as of right now - it's just a list
- There are intentions of developing this further, so we are open to feedback/suggestions/complaints/praises (mainly praises)
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Questions asked:
- Do you HAVE to apply to be a landlord if you rent out individual properties? Or only if you do full buildings? If yes, what about those people who are already renting out properties?
- Is Puerto Del Sol part of the one of those three complexes?
- How would our complex's staff go about being integrated/converted to be part of the script? Can we just message our handler?
- Will landlords need to speak with tenants for payment - or will it be auto payments?
Property Transfer UCP Feature
- If you're inactive and can't dedicate the time to run the property anymore, but it's active by other players that you've hired or even faction members and it's a huge hotspot for that faction
- Currently, it's not as quick as we'd like as we do it through forum DMs and those get lost sometimes
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You have the options of two things:
- Player to player - Selena to Wuhtah
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Internal - from one character to another one of your characters
- This is just a drop down menu, pretty simple
- You're going to write in the character's name, it'll be done automatically, no reporting in game, it'll be done through the request if accepted
- There's other shit, but Selena forgot so we move
Lease Update
- We know you have been deprived from supercars for a hot minute, we're working on it... at a snail's pace. Selena & Nervous are chatting it up currently
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Collectively, we have agreed to push some of these current leased vehicles from the lease list and into dealerships
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- Altogether, 23 lease-only vehicles are now added to the dealership
Cinema Script
- RAGEMP is creating their own thing for this, so with that - 3D browser, physical cinemas or TV, so we're waiting on that
- No ETA for this, it's up to RAGEMP, but they've announced it and are working on it to produce it
PM Rules - Changes, removals, additions, merges
- Some of these rules we don't enforce, and some of them we enforce a little too harshly - let's be real
- Selena is working on merging some of the rules, so they aren't just an eye sore
- We're adding conditioned properties rule so it's not just on the request itself
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Inactivity rules are a big one
- Trying to make it more fair and consistent across the board
- This was something Lomadias raised, we're working on it as a team to improve it
- Redoing mapping rules to help protect the mappers and a clearer understanding for all parties
- General requirements will be more lenient moving forward once they are out - aka, how many hours you're expected to have
Casino Rules Expectations
- We're implementing these soon, please be on the look out
- We're hoping to finalize this soon and help improve casino roleplay rather it being mindless clicking and money farming
Selena's Suggestion/Begging for Feedback on the NPC Mechanic Garage
- NPC garages - do we like these or what?
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General consensus is yes, but a lot have given suggestions - below are what we will talk about / forward / what was overall talked about
- Wait, there is a NPC garage?
- Every time I try to use it, I can't because someone is on /startshift with no map blip
- In the morning and some other times, a garage is open without a blip and then you can't use the NPC garage
- Can we make a way to startshift privately, so itdoesn't let the whole server know / not affect the NPC garage?
- Why not have the NPC garage working the whole time?
- NPC garage is good, but it should only be closed if there's an actual mechanic property open, not when mechanics are on /startshift, or at least maybe change tow trucks to be a separate thing from mechanics
- I think we should give garages a free map blip, if someone is on shift, auto place a map blip - if the garage wants a proper ad, they can still /bad
- I quite like it when it's the early server hours. I feel that garages is a bit hit or miss experience. I'm all for the efficiency for all, but sometimes I'd much rather do the quick things at the NPC garage, and rather focus on RP with the owned garages
- It's really annoying when people privately open garages for their friends and you can't use the NPC garage. Is there a way to tie closing the NPC garage to a garage that actually blipped?
- I suggest to make NPC garage blip any open garage if they don't have an advert up
- Sometimes when NPC is closed, it does not show actual open ones anywhere. Maybe someone just started shift but can't see a location where it is
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I’d like it if you could use the NPC garage to preview modifications even while player garages are open. I take forever to make up my mind so I’d love to be able to preview what I want without taking up a mechanics time, and then go to a player shop knowing exactly what I want
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Press I and go to the list of open businesses. You will see every open business that's operating, even without a blip
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Would it be too micro managed if garages has a special experience within which cars they work on?
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If a garage has a mechanic on shit it shows on the "List of Open Businesses."
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Instead of saying it's closed because "a garage is open" it would be nice to say "these garages are open" and gives off a list
Cigar Script
- IFM has given this to PM now, we will have a request on how to get these items soon!
- It will eventually be either moved to the UCP for requests on there, OR a business script will be made with this
PM Budget Requests
- Selena says ETA 2 weeks, but let's be real - let's say 2 months to be on the safe side and look a lot better!
- This will be available on the UCP to request once it's announced, same with item schemes
General Feedback/Suggestions/Questions
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Will the Sultan RS be nerfed to prevent everyone going out and buying one?
- No, it's being reviewed by Nervous to be put in the dealership for anyone to buy. If you have RPQ concerns, please submit a RPQ report on them!
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Will there be a trailer sync too? (for semi trucks, not the residentials aha)
- We are working with development for this
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@cinemas did you say it's going to use the new rage streaming video thing 3D screen? is it going to be available for all not locked to some cinema script... aka buy a projector or use it on tvs etc?
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We're unsure about being able to buy a projector, but it should be accessible outside just the cinema scripts for events and whatnot, as for residentials - most likely not as we don't allow script usage in these properties
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Will we ever have a way to pay off a lease for a vehicle you find in game (not a special request)
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We are working on a system, we'll sit down and have a discussion over a cuppa tea soon
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Can u make it that pawnshop owners would be able to check what kind of stuff people are ordering, so it won't appear just as X amount of "Goods" every time ?
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We will forward to the developers
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Can we suggest boat prices be lowered so we could possibly encourage more rp on the water, allowing FD and more unique types of rp to occur
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Absolutely you can suggest anything! Aha... we will discuss it amongst ourselves and pitch it to Nervous - no promises
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Can the misc requests for properties, (basements for instance) on the smartTP format be streamlined, so it’s not using smart TP request format for only building permits?
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Selena says she will work on it, but ya'll too needy
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Will the Enus Stafford ever be available in dealerships?
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The 'pimp mobile' - maybe in the future, as of now - no
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More cargo airplanes?
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#new-vehicles and we'll check them out
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Can we get back exterior furnishing like it used to function, with donator you could furnish someone elses property until server restarted, now you cannot any more if the property owner is not donator.
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No, this is a Nervous decision
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speaking of modding. tiddy modded a whole station into the game. is there a way to get the modding team to work on building mods and such if the government/admin team/etc approve it? if so, do we just submit it in the modding section?
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Yep! IF there is no modding section, forum PM Oggy (Head of Modding)
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Could the money you spend on mods be refunded when the lease gets cancelled IF lease to own doesn't become a thing?
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No, it's a choice that you make to spend on the car
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If you lease a car now, if they add it to the dealerships, will we get ownership of our leased version?
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It's up to you guys - you can either keep leasing it, or you can buy it from the dealership, currently we are working on a lease-to-buy in the future, no ETA!
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Will some of the properties from Paleto Bay be looked at? I don't like to be "that person" but I think some more properties that are up for grabs are not on the lease list and some are inactive for a year now(some are months),
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Wuhtah will check them out!
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will the construction sites with unfinished buildings eventually have actual buildings on them?
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Yeah, when modding stops being hit in the face so hard with so many requests
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What's the status of the venetian hotel and the rockford hotel suites? how can we request buildings to be turned into hotels (not player managed complexes, but like motels or rockford hotel)?
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WE can make these lease projects, if players are interested in this - send a forum DM to all the PM leads (Selena, Lomadias, Wuhtah, Oxygarum, Fenris)
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Can we get rid of "umbrella companies" concept and let people register companies owning shares as before. we don't NEED this but it's an immersive part of bizniz rp. And when you try to control and restrict this, some of us just ignore this part of gov/biz/financial department stuff. and have to play "playpretend" (within the playpretend) It's kind of basic for companies to be able to own shares in something else imo. Find another way to achive what you are trying to achive, what is it anyway? Like this can be regulated ICLY by financial department if anything
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We are not okay with shares at this time, funding with it is dismissed with financial justification
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what about more mapping projects downtown/south-central? eg. charleston
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Will pitch it to the mapping team and Oxygarum/Jacooob!
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With the amount of gun crimes in GTAW's LS, will armored cars ever be considered for important/wealthy people? I used to have an armored Baller on LC since I was higher up in the LC GOV, curious to see if security companies would be able to get them cor VIP protection details
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No - we want to keep this RP with security companies - so reach out to them!
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will the rockford hotel ever be leased out?
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For sure!
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any plans about trading or crypto?
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It'll never be a thing as per management & Nervous
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Will LFM/PM be offering support for businesses that don't get much IC business but realistically would?
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Absolutely, as per Selena, budget requests will happen in 2 weeks, as per Wuhtah - it'll happen in 2 months
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can we get clearer prices we expect to pay when applying for a lease or buying a house? I was afraid to apply earlier not knowing if I'd afford it
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We can make a list, however, leases are always between 15k-50k depending on the lease, and are shown on the leasing list as well. As for houses, we offer mortgage plans in case you don't have enough money
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will freelance mechanic ever be considered?
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Make a game suggestion on how this would work
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Fishing from LS Pier would be nice ^^
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We'll forward to the devs!
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is the job placement building server or player owned?
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Server owned, you can request it, however no promises of being accepted if the app isn't *chef's kiss*
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Statistics!
- 34 new features for PM since the New Year
- 19 new custom interiors thanks to the mapping team and Oxygarum/Jacooob for orchestrating this!
- As of the ticket launch, we've done 565 tickets, this is 282 tickets a month! Shoutout to the ENTIRE PM team for their hands in this!
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Okay - Apologies for the wait here.
@erfyy - Seeing how you already have a mechanic-oriented character, I feel it is a bit of a stretch to also have mechanic skills on another character. This does feel like script abuse with trying to make sure everyone is off shift prior to doing any vehicle modifications, so you get the money back only whilst some going into the business bank. This also rubs me the wrong way that you only do private openings on this character as well - if you do private openings, you need to be involved in public openings.
However, I encourage you to stop being a mechanic on a majority of your characters as this is a borderline roleplay quality concern and it does look like you're trying to script abuse - putting you in a very negative light. I will speak to the player behind Ava a bit more on this to clear it up if you decide to not heed my recommendations.
I understand that mechanics work on their cars all the time to save money. However, not all mechanics knows the ins and outs of every single vehicle both luxurious and scrappy when it comes to upgrading things. We 'allow' it here as it's a game, but if you're going to keep upgrading your vehicles on your alts and portray them as a 'mechanic' - I expect you to uphold this.You also have a business in the county, a house in the county - so I am very confused on why you're still a mechanic at a city garage doing private openings which we will speak through on a forum PM.
Quote[2024-01-19] [19:06:08] [#GTAW] (Local IC) Erin Hayes says: I'm skint for money so whatever I can get back I need it.
[2024-01-19] [19:06:17] [#GTAW] (Local IC) Erin Hayes says: Then I'll be back in four hours.
[2024-01-19] [19:07:00] [#GTAW] (Local IC) Erin Hayes says: I'm selfish like that. Or.. If you wouldn't mind clocking out for a minute?
[2024-01-19] [19:07:30] [GTAW OOC (/b)]* Erin Hayes yeah just endshift so i can im broke asfk
This is mixing IC/OOC - if you cannot afford it IC, you have no business doing this.
There will be more specific rules coming out in regard to this, but this falls under common courtesy and character rules:
QuoteEach of your characters should be unique from your other characters. Making similar characters that have the same motivations, goals, objectives etc. is forbidden.
This is self-explanatory.
Quotetaking advantage of an OOC issue to give yourself an advantage in an IC situation
I wouldn't call this an 'issue' per say, but you're taking advantage of the fact your character is hired at a mechanic script and only use it to benefit your friends and yourself. This happens by a majority of players, but they are also involved in other openings. It's not just using the script for their own personal gain. You're also not losing as much money in the sense, which, you would be losing the same amount of money with buying the same parts, just not for the 'service fee charge' as you're working on your own vehicle - however, this isn't separated with the script - it's just a fee for the 'parts and mods' of the vehicle.
I'm not sure where the script abuse rules went - however, this would be under that as well, or at least Common Courtesy for now.
Since this whole situation isn't clear-cut in the rules, this is a verbal warning to you. However, your characters are going to be forwarded to RPQM for a review as character rules were broken here. If this happens again, it will be a harsher administrative punishment as I've let you know now - that this isn't okay, it's considered script abuse and breaking common courtesy rules. I recommend you to stop as a mechanic on this character as well.
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Handling, please provide the evidence of what you're saying. Dates and times as well please.
@erfyy - your side as well please.
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(( Paused pending PM investigation. Do NOT sell this property. Please include the full /pinfo and the max you can sell it for is 1,272,371. Please update this, thank you. ))
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Props to you guys for transparency and these updates! Love to see it. ❤️
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Oh I didn't realize it was reported twice. Aha.
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Hi @Marquise -
Thanks for the reply. I understand our rules are extensive (and a lot) - so, assuming the Hall of Justice "sounds" like a government building isn't really a good precedence to set here. If you use the command /czmap - this pulls up a window in your GTAW game that shows you the no crime zones and other types of zones. Here is a picture for reference:
The legend on the bottom left let's you know which type. And if you compare where your character is at to this map, it should help you for future occurrences like this. I do recommend checking out the #12 Anti-Crime Zones rule here:
It goes over a bit more in depth what the zones mean and what you can/cannot do.
If you have any questions, please feel free to reach out in game via /helpme or even in our Discord channels in #newbie-help.
The vehicle was not moved according to the logs. Let this be a last warning to you when it comes to stealing in NCZ zones, you've been spoken to frequently on it, and this is the last time you will be spoken to about it again. Consider this a final warning about NCZ to you.
Report is concluded, @Log - go ahead and request for a refund on the UCP and tag me in it.
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On 12/30/2023 at 10:07 AM, Marquise said:
Hey, marquise here. The person in the report is a 'Colin McRay', not me, was it a mistake?
It was you in the end, the player was given wrong information by us prior to submitting the report.
Do you have anything to say?
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Sent the player a notification - they have 48 hours to respond.
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Handling.
Collin Mcray was banned a week ago for ban evading. How do you know it is him? Also, which vehicle (vehicle ID works, you can see this in /vg or you can forum PM me the license plate # if that's easier) was it?
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Okay then!
@Duntruslilot will be receiving a warning for not getting administrator permission prior to robbing an open business.
I do welcome you back, but your absence does not mean you are exempt from following the rules. I do urge you to give them a look-over as a few rules have even changed since a year from now.
I will also address your question in your response:
QuoteHow realistic is it to chase a baseball bat robber outside of a store, and shoot him multiple times. You would be in jail for shooting a man escaping. No self defence argument surely. My character was hit in the head and I died up the road. Is there any rules broken there?
Whereas, I do see where you are coming from - your character entered a place with ill-intentions. If you had gotten away, and the player shot at your character and hit him - then let IC be IC - you could go to court and find a justifiable reason if your character was in the wrong or not. He did try to commit a robbery, and as everyone loves the phrase: "fuck around and find out". However, there is an IFM ruling on terms of escalation.
It goes roughly, and I mean roughly:
Verbal -> Fights (fists mainly) -> melee (knuckledusters, bats, knives) -> guns
I do caution @Red Reyne for future occurrences that may lead to poor escalation. Please be careful as this could be seen as poor escalation in one's eyes, as the player had a bat at the store, ran out when you had the gun on him, and you chased him outside to shoot at him. Let this be a verbal warning to be careful with this - and if you have any questions pertaining to it - definitely hit up an IFM member and get their 2 cents on it as well.
Report concluded.
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I'll be picking this up, and I'll conclude in 24 hours. Each party can state one more comment if they want.
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This turned into a point a finger type of suggestion, and needless to say, lots of conflicting opinions on this.
If you have an issue with IC prices, deal with it IC (don't buy any, there are plenty of other pawnshops around).
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(( Locked pending PM investigation. Please /report for a default interior as this is way too oversized. ))
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9 hours ago, mj2002 said:
What are some of the challenges you'd be looking at for something like this to work?
Right now, the current system is so buggy that I have to constantly make sure that the leases that people terminate - go back on the market.
The only issues that arise from something like this - is that the business scripts still need to be given out via from PM as you guys can't give that out - and do you want people to not fully own the lease, etc. If they rent the office, then we are not inclined to give out the bscript as we've always wanted a commercial property to go with it that players own. So that's something that we need to work through too.
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8 minutes ago, mj2002 said:
Is there any chance for commercial rental property roleplay? Renting out small business units or offices? I can understand that this may conflict with some roles that property management plays, but are there any thoughts or discussions on how that could be realized despite the challenges?
Since office leases are now on the market for /availableleases and can be done without an application - this is something we can definitely look into!
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Brian Liu reported for DM.
I consulted IFM and we both deemed it not DM.
That is all that stemmed from it - I did not say it was okay to kill anyone else, just that Brian Liu and the reason behind it was not DM.
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Shout out to you - thank you so much for the time and effort you put into making this guide. It's much appreciated on the Property Management side of things.
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(( On hold pending PM investigation. ))
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Hi @Zinz -
I was the administrator handling the search warrant that concluded in the LEO members finding your guns. Below the chatlogs (of my day, minus the administrative duties, can be found of the search):
As you can see, it wasn't given out without proper roleplay. The plug idea, as saw on your /stashinfo by me - was ruled as powergaming. A plug/outlet measurements (of a normal one in the USA, I do not know where you are from, but LS is centered in the USA, which is the measurements I am going off of):
I quite forgot what Glock/Sig was supposed to be found in there, they were both in the duffle bag, and I ruled it that the entire duffle bag would NOT fit in a less than 3 inch wide hole that held 2 guns, a bunch of pistol ammo, and a battle-axe that was also found in there. However, I did not want to give LEO such as easy "win" because hey, that's not fun for illegals, so I let only one gun be placed inside the boombox. As you can see, even with a 'Sig' being RP'd as this small gun, it still wouldn't have fit.
There was also 0 roleplay of unscrewing the socket and making the plug deeper/wider for the guns to fit as well, so again, I ruled it as powergaming and did what I could see fit.
As you saw, I did a bit of roleplay where the boombox was completely cleaned out of the components it usually would have had. And alas, stuck it in there - a screwdriver was mentioned and it wasn't easily given to the LEOs, as you can see, a crowbar came into the scene.
With the rest of the contents of the duffle bag, I hid it behind the TV - as seen in the logs (there was no /stashinfo, and again, powergaming a duffle bag in the entire socket is... well, unrealistic).
Please understand that the LEOs had a K9 sniffer, trained for guns. They would have more than likely sniffed out any guns within the premise. I am not a fan of this, but alas, speak to IFM/LFM to see if there can be a 50/50 compromise on this. However, both guns were used in a shootout within 24 hours, so.. there's that. Lot's of gunpowder in the air and surrounding the barrels which would make it easier for the dog in this specific situation at least.
If you do not agree with my assessment of the search warrant, you'll need to submit a staff report on me. You can find that information here: https://ucp.gta.world/staff-reports
The LEOs did nothing wrong in this situation, therefore it must be a staff report. Copy/paste it or even just link them this report if you'd like - no stress on me. You're always free to a second/third opinion as a player.
To note: I am not in a LEO faction on any of my characters, I do not roleplay with any of the LEO people - nor do I know Maeve or Maria from different characters. I just wanted to state this in case "bias" came into play. It would have been cleared up with Staff Management fairly quickly/easily, but I do just want to let you personally know as well to ease any suspicions you may have had.
Enjoy the rest of your week.