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PROPERTY MANAGEMENT Community Meeting - March 2025 Overview Finalize tomorrow: property rule rewrite is going OUT. It's official after how many years of us revamping it -- we're finally doing it. Property rule number one hasn't been updated since internal discussions are still being spoken about. Development updates! Revamp of the PM UCP is a pain in the ass. But it's a fast pain in the ass. Mobile responsive Lots of updates coming out in May/June Vehicle updates There have been two forum posts about this from Selena Spreadsheet was given to Oggy and he is going through them with Selena 15 cars that are modded are being 'looked' at -- NOT confirmed. There also might be more as Selena hasn't looked at all of them in the post yet. Trying to get more standard vehicles in the next few weeks. Tenant permissions that have been developed by Azelat coming relatively soon! Tenants will be able to invite other players in the property with /givepropertykey if the owner of the property has this permission enabled. Concept changes on the UCP have been fixed -- this has set to be deployed soon. An announcement will go out in the PM discord once this happens. Landlord apps open soon - Early June -- an announcement will be put out when they open. Questions/Answers Is there any ETA on RSX or Turismo Classic? No ETA on any specific cars right now. Can we get some more decent, cheaper cars? Go on the forum post that Selena made and suggest them. Why is there a rule against TRADING properties? It's unrealistic as most people (who hoard properties still) will trade a Mirror Park house with a Grove Street house. One is in a good neighborhood and one is in a shit run-down neighborhood. is the little seoul apartments, callistos apartments and eclipse apartments being added anytime soon? They are in the pipeline - mappers will start working on the in the future! Can I give car price suggestions? Absolutely, message Selena! Are Grapseeds properties even active? I never see them open Yup, most of them are! If you believe one isn't, please submit a property report on the UCP and we'll check with the owners for you! Can we own caddies and lawnmowers? No. Can we get more in-game BUSINESS leases? We are hesitant, but not turning away from it! There's new ones being added, like the Vinewood Gardens stores. Contact Wuhtah for more. Editable RV interiors? Not technically possible, unfortunately! BUT new RV interiors are coming. Can we do underwater events? Pitch it to the events team! Can we get new Tug interiors? Sure, speak to tayswiz and it'll be added to the backlog for mappers! Hotknife? Mil-spec? Yes (soon? random one-off veh update?) - Milsec - no, unlikely! Suggestions Wheelchair? Mod is not compatible. Can we get a mapped Pounder interior? Sure, contact Tayswiz (Head of Mapping) and discuss it with him! New RV interiors are already being worked on by mappers.

PROPERTY MANAGEMENT Community Meeting - March 2025 Overview To an update on the Property Management side of things for the previous suggestions from players: A forum guide that will eventually be on the UCP is being made for players who are new to starting a business. It'll have where to go, the required links, required information needed, etc. If you have anything you think that will be beneficial to add to this, please send Wuhtah a discord or forum DM! Added two new 'free market' leases to the server under Vinewood Garden Complex. Depending how these go, we might add more. Mall map has been put in place within the mall using the poster script. Huge thanks and shoutout to @9TriLLo for designing it and @colorlessrainbow for placing them within the mall itself. Hopefully this will make the mall active / make it easier to find stores. If you have any further suggestions to help the mall be more active (that isn't dev/modding involvement) please discord DM or forum DM Wuhtah! Update on the vehicles! Selena submitted a topic on the forums of adding vehicles to the server. Sent off to modding and it was reviewed right away. Out of the 77 vehicles - lots of them didn't have LODs, some were already added, and some of them you had to pay for the mods -- lots of money. Only 7 out of the 76 (Selena you keep saying 77 and 76, what is it) -- only 7 were being able to added into the game. Selena, what the fuck is a LOD? Thanks to JackieH: "its just the level of detail used by the 3d model for rendering" Why do we even need a LOD? Thanks to Oggy: "cars disappear, they load in the high poly model too soon and that causes performance issues." She asked Oggy how we (aka you guys) can find vehicles better to add. Here is the guide/also a new thread to add vehicles to the server: Millspec & hotknife being added soon. Total revamp of the Property Management section on the UCP! Selena took 15k lines of code, and took it to a 5 line of codes for all you code brains. Property request form is now all one form and less 'nested'. It's pretty straight forward and on the side it'll have a tailored guide in the future. Houses are in the middle of being done, right now we're adding pictures and the prices and the mortgage prices with them all. Some of the requests took a huuuge time to load, this has been reduced significantly. Trying to engage Property Management in this... revamp. The RULE. #1? #0? The property selling rule -- how much you can sell a property rule for. The 0-2 weeks part of the rule is what players have been voicing their opinions about the most. If you have opinions/suggestions on this - hit up Selena please. Location based (Rancho/Davis shouldn't sell for 2+ mil) Questions/Answers Can we address the whether or not you can gift WP to non-server mappers? The gift feature is there, you can use it for non-server mappers, however, it is highly recommended to at least pay the furniture price back to them as well. Make sure it makes sense IC as well of how you'd "pay" for it as well if it's just saying the FP is the "contract pay". Any thoughts on taxing assets to make 'wealth' a little bit more realistic, in terms of maintaining these assets? Not currently, but if you want to make a suggestion on the forums that is more drawn out for the developers, please do so. What vehicles should we expect in the near future? Any vehicles you want to see added. There's a forum thread up on it. Was just curious, opened topic about Business salaries, and such, it has around 10 pages by now, no one from PM answered? Was there talk about it or... ? Can you make it so if we're looking at a tab and hit refresh, it reloads right onto that tab? Selena can look into it. i do have a question say your bidding a property and it bids over how much you can sell it for in the month bracket how does that work You need to stick with the maximum amount you can sell for according to the property rules. If you go over - you can face punishment I have been speaking with this to Lomadias but I just wanted to ask, regarding Paleto Bay's pier, can it be kind of renovated like it looks "usable" by normal humanbeings? Like, we don't want a wheel or anything crazy or fancy just, renovated, renewed. Can that be considered or looked into? Can forward to the modding team. Is there a plan to actually PUNISH players who take open market business leases and then never open? removing them from the lease isnt enough IMO. I think banning them from ever owning one again would be great Send a forum PM to colorlessrainbow/Wuhtah if you see this constantly happening by one player. We can start noting it down on our end as well. Would there ever be room to talk on allowing non donate people to just allow us to put one cctv on the outside of our properties? Instead of donating for the highest package to allow us to do this. Selena will forward to panda man. would it be considred that county businesses get "double entry charge" with openbusiness considering we get a lot less people coming by compared to a business in the city? Will forward for PM leads review. Player owned mail delivery company? Apply! Was also curious, any chance we can get some kind of gym script for private properties? I mean, from one side, it makes sense, from other, it will pretty much close gym businesses since everyone will make houses with private gyms? it'll most likely be a no due to the residentials constantly being changed around and there's no script support atm for it just to be a standalone, it would also make gym businesses non-existent Selena is there any update about landlord/real estate agency? Also, general question, why are stuff like loft apartments not allowed at all? Kind of understand not allowing stuff like duplex apts but why not loft ones, it can effectively spare some smaller apartment spaces and such? Forwarded to PM leads & Tayswiz for review. Will give an update next PM meeting. Suggestions YOW, i had a suggestion, u know how we love seeing community events in dim 0, but biggest issue is people building a building out of beer bottles or food items that get dropped for people to pick up, can't we have a storage container to work in dim 0 with an approved command or something that last 1H~ so people can store beers in it, without needing tower of dropped items one big thing is what murda is doing basically which correlates to PM - Mapping and Modding, is let people suggest furniture items and give them a template how a correctly made furniture items should look like before suggesting something needs to be done for county shop owners, they're just not profitable. myself or employees can open a 24/7 in Paleto and get no customers in a 2 hour shift. Has thought ever gone into giving like 40% profit for "NPC" sales when nobody is on shift? the county pop is much lower than the city, harder to get customers /bad usage for PP points of 5k good for x amount of hours or a day? restaurant script should be re-worked completely, because it's not the same as store or bar. You need a lot more employees, more resources. Imagine having 3 waiters + 3 kitchen staff, that's 6 people, even if you pay them 5k/hour that's 30k, meaning that you, as owner will make 4-10k tops, meaning that it can happen that your worker makes more than you. It needs to be re-worked Oh, one suggestion, to avoid confusion with prices i would open a community wide pool for prices of newly added cars Categorize /openbusiness UI rework in restaurants I asked about this a few months ago and havent heard anything about it, but can we have an update to /badtemplates where we can EDIT existing templates?

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Overall Information: Vehicles have now been pushed to management review, a list of the vehicles can be found here. Please note that some of them might not be added due to management judgement! ETA on implementation: this weekend or Monday! Remember - the original list included a few more vehicles, but these were taken out -- Nervous wanted to reserve them for future charity events or other types of events. List of added vehicles: Vapid Hustler: $161,250 Mammoth Patriot Stretch: $275,000 - will be leasable too Lampadati Casco: $700,000 - vehicle flags to be added meaning they cant be sold or traded, only scrapped Lampadati Pigalle: $185,500 10f Widebody: $550,000 Ocelot Ardent: $235,000 Ocelot Jugular: $605,000 - vehicle flags to be added meaning they cant be sold or traded, only scrapped Declasse Mamba: $740,000 - vehicle flags to be added meaning they cant be sold or traded, only scrapped Dinka Vindicator: $50,000 LCC Innovation: $35,000 Buckingham Conada: $1,250,000 Sparrow: $600,000 Sea Sparrow: $680,000 PRICES ARE SUBJECT TO CHANGE, VEHICLE ADDITION IS ALSO SUBJECT TO CHANGE - ONE OR MORE MAY BE REMOVED AFTER MANAGEMENT REVIEW. Vehicle price adjustments will be looked into as well - there's a few that have been given to us due to you guy's speaking loudly on it! They will either decrease or increase in price. Fundamental changes to Property Management! UCP slow? Blame PM! UCP down? Blame PM! Revamp of the UI to make it cleaner & work faster! House revamp SOON! Pictures of houses inside & out - prices that include FP, etc! Two fixes for leases! Lease to buy is now available on the UCP - please use the UCP to get them. It's changing from 6 months to 4 months. Property rules One rule is the bane of PM existence - it's the property rule ONE. Selling of properties. 0-2 weeks, 2 weeks - 1 month - you get the gist guys, go look at the rule. We've asked Nervous if we can change this - he has approved. Looking at getting more houses implemented via modding. Questions/Suggestions/Concerns from players: Mapper prices - very low end mapping that people have paid ridiculous prices for Can you fix the button to 'delete' a interior request as when clicking it it seems to not work/do anything maybe a way to occasionally have a 1 to 1 talk with PM leads to discuss if something makes sense for our characters before applying for it Selena, add more realistic mapping in Sandy, maybe a kids park or smth like that dont gentrify sandy though, it shouldn't become middleclass, seen that mistake on other rp servers btw are there gonn be curved walls in the near future? No idea, if it's possible we will suggest it For smart tp requests, some balconies don't work and have you fall through, is there a way if donator to request a smart tp and allow us to use a slot to map the floor under it so it can be used? In general we should fix balconies - period. We'll forward it to modding and see what we can do. i can suggest the idea of having permanent furniture objects spawned outside a property balcony/front lawn without having to pay monthly/hourly/daily for the item raise the furn slots of non premium users to 100 from my experience relatively new to the server, the process of starting a business is kinda confusing, a guide could be good I still think providing actual examples of good/solid applications. Like I was 3 months in before I realized backstory isn’t actual backstory but your story from the time you started the story. What about a box/option in the reques to let people write their full thing but then have the normal question boxes as a limited characters so it can be more like a tldr and can read the full thing if needed I get a lot of mixed signals from other players where some are like when you apply you need to be as in-depth as humanly possible and include every detail you can think of, and then people are like being clear and concise to get the point across without dragging it out. And I just think the examples would remove confusion for newer people on the server. please put the cherry blossom paintjob on more cars the one on annis zr-380 Any chance to implement a vew more mall type places/ smaller places for like 5-8 stores or something inside things Oh I dunno if it’s PM or modding - but the car wash in Sandy could use some mapping. It’s weird to get this message about not being automatically and needing to RP it with nothing to aid that immersion. Thank you to the players who constantly try to help us evolve to a better subteam! Thank you to the members of PM who make it possible to do what we do!

Yep, and this is noted by a ton of admins on the team on the person's staff application when we see it. Very true on the first point here. We do review, or at least I did, ALL their forum activity. Discussions and suggestions are mainly the two I go about 6+ months back as you can 'change' your mindset for staff application month. However, I haven't been in staff management for 1.5 years, and I don't review all the staff applications anymore - only the names that I'm familiar with and have had contact with whether it's helping them in game, on the forums, or through Property Management mainly. I love when players actually have their own voice on the forums - it was really easy to gauge (I'm talking about 5-6 months back before they were going to apply for staff) if they could make a good candidate or not. Have some slipped through that did not make good staff members? Absolutely - we're all human, we all get bamboozled. Spamming help topics on the forums - I absolutely agree with you. I tend to ignore these posts if they had just started doing it. I would actually think a majority of the staff team agrees with you in regards to players needing a wider variety of different roleplay. I unfortunately fall under the "hasn't roleplayed legal much, hasn't roleplayed illegal much" - so when it comes to specific queries from a legal standpoint or even illegal, we thankfully have admins who ARE really into that scene and can help those admins like me with situations to judge. It's a 50/50 coin - if we have too much, it's bad, if we have too little - we don't have enough knowledge. It has been proven that, yes - which is why I now (more frequently than in the past) see admins use IFM for a resource guide of handling reports. IFM has also been working really hard on the admin side of making 'guides' so to speak to help as well with that. We're trying our best - but not everyone is interested in legal or illegal sides for their roleplay.

I understand where you're coming from with this mindset as it truly does look that way if you think about it in that specific way.. However, yes man's aren't what we want. If we have someone who comes into the team and stirs it up professionally and respectfully, I love having new ideas and new ways to see if it works or not. We get that a lot from the new admins. How you face conflict and how you face argumentative players on the forums are also a good indicator too. Most of the time, new supports or staff applicants want to avoid that. Some actually go head-on and de-escalate the situation or provide respectful feedback. Those are the people we want lm

Absolutely! If you don't think it should be taken as harshly into consideration - do you have perhaps insight on if we should change how the application is worded or the questions we ask?

In my time in staff management, this was how we could gauge what type of person you were in the past / are now. Keeping in mind that players can easily "fake" themselves (as well as admins), so we take it with a grain of salt. Discussions on the forums was always an ass kicker for me when I first applied because I was a lurker as well. Why we want you to engage with the community is because we technically don't want "lurkers" in the staff team - we want people who will RESPECTFULLY press the buttons, offer a new set of eyes, and try to change things for the better. Admins are players, but we don't necessarily see all the processes you guys go through. Understanding these processes is something we see from "our" side and handling them, not by "your" side and having to go through it. Discussions and suggestions on the forums give us a bit of a sneak peek inside your mind and how it operates as that's not always a tell-tale sign on the application itself. As for discord, before the AI installation, it helped us gauge who was here for just being staff and who was here to actually help players. It kinda nulls itself now, but that's how it was perceived before (this was probably late 2023 when I was in staff management). But! If they didn't have discord/forum presence, we usually didn't deny right away and put them as reserve - so this part has changed. I'll forward this onto them to see if they can get an updated view for you! Hopefully this helps for now until then.

I deleted the admin lounge once. That's the only mistake I've made and if anyone says differently they lying.

I'm a bit confused on this. We don't have a "deadline" for players to correct anything. If they don't keep us updated and ghost us for a week, we do deny. But then they can always reach out. As for waiting weeks/months - I do see this happened in previous request cycles. Usually houses take up to a month, but properties/leases should take two weeks max. If your request is sitting for two weeks, definitely send me a discord DM. Mine are open. Or, if you don't like me you can easily make a PM ticket as well! I'm also confused on how we're creating red tape. You can make multiple apps on different characters. If you make a house request and a business request, we will probably ask you to choose as that's a huge financial burden and you need to roleplay that realistically. Feel free to message me for any inquiries, I don't want to turn this thread more into a PM one.

A lot of you to respond to, so I'll do it all in one post! I appreciate the feedback/suggestions, and I will forward it to the team to discuss further as well. From @denybosnia You're right - it fell flat due to the lack of love from the admin/dev side that we truly didn't know it needed. It lost a lot of traction because of this. We are looking to perhaps moving ALL mall leases (including the YouTool one in the county) to the UCP and sort them out through there. However, we'll leave them open 24/7 as there are not that many either. This is still being discussed with colorless and the rest of the PM leads though - but this might be a viable option. It won't be as in depth as property requests/normal leases - but a bit more than trailer requests. Hopefully a happy medium where a few sentences per question would suffice. Yes, I understand "ugh more requests" - but this is to help filter out as well and give more access to those who will actually partake in mall leases instead of leaving them inactive. They absolutely could, but the dev team also has a lot on their plates and to have this only be a thing for 15-20 businesses doesn't seem like a huge need, currently. Plus, it might fuck up everything else and cause more headaches than it's worth. I did offer the whole "make some businesses available" and go from there to "test" it out - but honestly, the mall was that and it didn't really work out in our favor. From @adrxxn I answered some of these in the above post! Leasing apps are actually a lot less 'strict' as well as properties now. We have a new mindset moving forward of NOT looking for denials (some older PM members were) and trying to work with the player more to find a compromise. In the end, we want active businesses, but we also want to make sure the roleplay quality / assets / etc make sense too! A majority of players who work with us, end up getting the business. Your first, second, and third bullet point - answered above! ❤️ And from @Soraya I will absolutely bring these questions to the team as we work on the UCP aspect of it all (if we go that route). Are you wanting this to change for the property request/lease requests too, or just specifically mall leases? A lot of these questions are good, and I do appreciate that! I can see about getting a forum section for job seekers as well - but that might be a minute as it involves management's opinion / making! P.S. sorry for taking over the thread ❤️

Link community update to check it out for those who didn’t see it Development work wise New UCP features Requesting a lost property back via UCP, so it doesn't get lost in forum DMs, discord DMs, etc. Should be a short, quick and easy process Cooldown on appeals server wide - this is already implemented for PM, but now it's gonna be everywhere. CD will be between 12 and 48 hours. Formatting for budgets/item schemes, right now it's free reign/canvas. It doesn't make it easy for PM and players, so we're going to make it more guided/tidier. Leased properties are going to be in alphabetical order now You will be able to request a lobby to be mapped by the mapping team Being able to clear the business bank via UCP - moreso internal use Business transfers via UCP instead of forum PMs - UCP part is done, in game part needs to be done Concept changes are being moved hopefully soon to the UCP from forums House applications - changes for this Similar layout to leases Currently, you just see a list of houses. Soon, it'll have the pricing on each and what each house looks like on the inside -- if it's mapped or not -- this will help if you're unable to get into the game or the /report is taking too long Lease to buy fixes New bmanager will be integrated as well on the UCP If you have any UCP suggestions for players that would be beneficial and PERTAINS TO PROPERTY MANAGEMENT - please hit up Selena! What the PM team is working on moving forward in 2025: Consistency Rule re-work - lots of "dated" items in there Selling of houses/properties - lots of questions of how much you can sell the properties for Selena/Lomadias tweaking this rule Working on a master FAQ - been in the works for 8 months now. Will cover a majority of questions you guys have within tickets/personal DMs. Continuing on streamlining processes to make it easier on players Houses fucking suck - but you guys want them for your shenanigans! We are slowly running out of houses to give out SUGGESTION WE ARE PITCHING TO YOU: Every two months - house requests are opened. Currently it's open every month This will help allow more time for return of houses from players due to inactivity/not wanting them anymore - more options for the new requestors! Only other solution is to mod shit in - last resort as it takes awhile / could create a laggy area. Questions/Answers When cars? We just introduced the DLC cars, everytime we ask for a list we get blanked. Where is Deeman when you need him? We have the phase 2 discussion going on with a forum thread - we have a ton of comments of what vehicles to add, what not to add, prices, etc. We can’t share the list at the moment. After discussion with the PM team - we shove them in the other subteam’s faces to get their opinions (probably the leads of those subteams) Cyclone, vacca, infernus, temPASTA, some helicopters, hustler, nightshade, hotknife, strider, etc are some of the vehicles that have been brought up Looking to roll out MID FEBRUARY No promises on the vacca, but Selena will look into it Gold donators poster perms when We can pitch to Nervous in a bit are there plans for the YouTool that got mapped recently soon? 😄 Yes once we get them mapped - they will be requestable via UCP if PM locks down a property from mapping, we cant put up posters either inside or outside. can this be fixed? This has already been fixed! Thanks nick! i find it hard to find the lease ID for properties /myleases! will there ever be a change to the bar script code to allow for govt paychecks? Being discussed internally! What happened to wheelchairs and can they ever be fixed somehow to work again? They go SUPER FAST and cannot be synced up currently do your leases for cars get removed when u get banned? Not if you pay them ahead of time why are chop shops only given to official factions? prices of lockpicks, switchblades, dusters have skyrocketed? Because they are IFM territory Any more discussion or testing in regard to 18 wheelers and trucking? The tiniest touch against them made them explode currently For leases is there a possibility if there is a concept that is not widely done / theres no concepts for this in the map that you could add a sort of 'custom request' for a lease ( just as some characters maybe wouldnt make sense for a straight up buy property) and then if theres any spare businesses left or any empty/inactive properties on pms list anywhere they could propose some kinda business idea switch with it still being a lease? This would fall under property requests and asking for it to be turned into a lease! Do you start reviewing leasing requests as they arrive, or only after the request period has closed? As they come in, we only accept/deny when they close. Would the new vehicles ever be able to be /vdupped for your partner? No, this was the trade-off Suggestions a command to check how many people entered your business once you do /openbusiness to check if you hit the maximum 40K stimulus or not ever thought of having certain houses in south-central/rancho to be leases? (lost upon namechanges/CKs) considering that there's close to 10 factions there and there's a single place where people can live which is jamestown that serves as the hood of a faction they aren't exactly houses that are bought in the same way as hills/mirror park houses and its a bit weird to say that you live in rancho and you're a local when you can't live anywhere aside from the projects that currently belong to south los 13 Could we get updated RV interior for all the RV's? Please add some medium-low budget cars!!! If you re running out of housing could maybe try some high end apartments that are basically like houses with 2 or 3 floors? Maybe some apartment complexes that are as luxurious as houses, and can be used with requests? I think some new airplaines would be nice. Maybe some of the new ones if they are suitable to mod the guns away? Heavy cargogob, normal cargogob or some cargo planes. available houses could use a map like available apartments have more guides regarding what would be recognized as correct when it comes to money in leases and ownership, script cash isn’t recognised, give us a formula based on multiple realistic assets to quantify our options prior to request. it would be great to have a search bar in the UCP requests yes Especially for houses since it's gonna be a massive list give us the ability to use the taxi script on personal vehicles (preferably regular sedans) some shit like uber, wheere you don't have to buy a taxi I find the basement request process confusing, as it currently requires going through a property or smart TP request. It would be nice to have the option to request a basement independently, without needing to create a property or add a smart TP, just purely a request to map one. For the bar staff script thing with the new rank system it would be good to avoid abuse if you gave it just to certain ranks that can't have access to the business bank maybe if that is the worry on it can motels also be turned into buyable properties? With the new landlord script maybe if there is a possibility to implement a motel/hotel runner, have rooms individually scripted to have a timer go down (something like /givekey xamount of days x amout of hours) to promote something like the lodge in the county

/availableleases - it has been in game for... A year or two now? But the stores are always taken - once a player sees one available, they scoop it up regardless if it makes sense to their character or not. There is an inactivity script, but it's timed with the player's hours. They could have 100 hours a month and not open the business at all which we would deem it an inactive business. We have to manually check them.

Idk if anyone has responded to you. But this is done through mall leases already and 60% of the time it's 16-18 year olds leasing them and having them go inactive. These are obviously taken away / monitored, but it's hard to stay on top of it all the time. SO! It is proven to us that putting all businesses on the free market is not such a good idea!

If there's any PROOF of factions chasing these people out - please send me that information (screens, or dates/times with character names of everyone involved), so I can get to the bottom of it. I have personally never experienced this each and every time I have RP'd in the county, so perhaps if you're going to roleplay an asshole character, you're going to get shit for it. Please prove me wrong by sending me proof. @NexusExodus - When the Sawmill gets up and running, send me a DM and I can push that forward (job wise or event wise) through the proper channels to let the county businesses know what's up. Can you also get an update to your faction of the county branches of the government? Would they be willing to do more events/gatherings? Is there any administrative help that they need? The issue with implementing railroading -- people look at the subway, and it didn't get very far in terms of roleplay. Some mindsets see this and go 'hm, why waste that time that I barely have?'. I'll forward some spots and get with the PM team of getting a NPC-owned Burgershot or something alikes of that out in the county -- the mapping team has been doing well, so hopefully it won't sit in terms of 'getting mapped'. As for increasing the /openbusiness entry fee for county businesses - I'll check to see if they actually suffer on getting players up there and into the businesses itself prior to doing that. For adding more middle-class houses, if you FIND any mods that could work, please send them my way via a forum DM. Lomadias is converting a big list to send their way. We'll look into a ton of the suggestions here, but there's only so much we can do without the help of modding (who are currently fully booked through 2030 with ideas/suggestions you guys throw at them, which is totally okay!) and/or development. There's been a ton here that I haven't necessarily responded to with the above, but I am keeping track in a notepad to forward onto the respective subteams and PM's subteam as well.

I'm almost positive all of the county businesses can be concept changeable and can be bought out as well. Some were added on the leasing list due to players wanting to apply for them without waiting for property requests to open up. I will check with colorlessrainbow on this, though for sure. I can ask modders if we can get more businesses in Sandy, but I'm going to do a property count of how many are available, first. It's not that there's not any businesses available, players just don't want to run them it seems to us.

I believe(?) sawmill is under LSGOV? @Lomadias can give more insight with that.

There's over +100 apartments/trailers in the county that are available right now. A bit lacking on houses, but we've been on top of it. As for scripted job support - another garbage depot being added in Paleto? Can I get more opinions on this? Would having a scripted restaurant job (sort of like the 24/7, but more food-oriented) work as well?

O ok I'll see myself out

So tldr, are you wanting a script that's /joinable for mechanics?

Forwarded. @Jacooob

nah, keep them on the forums. It also helps the community raise issues to staff management and helps rewrite rules that some of us could mix up or could be punished differently by different admins. I like the transparency. Also helps other members see what's going on, what they can do to not break rules, etc. tldr: -1 keep calling us out respectfully to staff management if we do fuck ups so we can improve altogether as a staff team.

So, I'd just like to chime in here. There are a lot of backseat moderating on this post. There's also a lot of questions/concerns on this post. You're absolutely okay to have questions/concerns as long as it's mentioned and forwarded to the OP in a RESPECTFUL way. There's a few that are respectful, and a few that are not. I don't mind the OP not engaging in the trolls/baits -- but I will engage with you, and you'll be off the forums for awhile as you cool down. It's a concept. If it works - it works. If it doesn't - it doesn't. If it's absolutely bonkers and doesn't make sense - RPQM them. You're not an admin, and I hope you're not a child - you don't get to call others names and stop your feet. Grow up, handle it like an adult, or walk away.

We've recently updated our basement rules -- it's still a unified no on multi-interior apartments having basements! Sorry! NY & Jersey have a ton of these because of the 'squished' residentials they have in some parts. LA would not due to droughts (making soil incredibly dry and crumbly) and overall basements SHOULD be more of a limited thing, but we don't want to be too restrictive. We've compromised of allowing more basements / letting the basement rules become a bit more laxed.

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