Vincent

yeah its cool

Plenty of good posts, and a lot of good discussion going on, but I still personally believe that there has to be a way to bring the community to a somewhat generalized understanding on the matter. I don't know how achievable that could be without something like say, a rule in place, however, seeing as people are warned and can get in trouble for escalation, I say we're still stepping in the right direction. I was recently scrolling through the reports section, and if everyone here goes there to check it out, a majority of those reports are preventable shitpost situations full of escalation over stupid things ninety nine percent of the time. I personally believe that LESS ESCALATION = LESS REPORTS, which in turn equals MORE ROLEPLAY.

Paintball guns seem like a dope idea to implement outside of the sports scene for shit like @Extra'd Out's post. Less PK's more RP. but uh no hellbringer

holy fucking shit based. Add it, it's good for legal/illegal rp. Helps everyone and gives everyone a chance at something fun and creative.

"ey what up ese"

really excited for this

BE A MAN AND JOIN TTCF. EVERY RACE HAS IT'S PLACE.

JOB 8:7

ayo looks interesting..

Again, I use to jump to violence/aggression, whatever. However, last time I checked, even though I'm an illegal RPer I think I can handle these situations better than most, legal or illegal rper. It isn't what kind of RP the person does, it's the mindset. Those people who aimed guns at me for spitting on them? Legal roleplayers who have PFs. The beating turned into a killing? Illegal roleplayers who were gangsters. Anyone can make a dumb choice and escalate a situation, illegal or legal rper. I never understood why there's such a divide in that regard anyway, since we all play on the same server. I just believe escalation happens too much and isn't talked about enough. It needs to be revamped/reworked/or discussed to a point where the community can come to a grand understanding that just because you can do something... doesn't mean you should do it. I understand and agree... if these people were lunatics. However, just because you roleplay a crazy character, doesn't mean it's acceptable to do crazy, unrealistic things. Here's the prime example I mentioned in the OP. I walk into a job interview, greeting my two employers. They introduce themselves, and then state that they're homosexuals. My character simply remarks, "That's great and all but I don't remember asking..." in regards to their sexuality, which in response causes Ms. Messer to tell me to leave. Seeing as I just wasted my time coming here, I insulted her, was insulted back, and spat on her. Ruby then instantly scroll-wheeled her gun, without even a second to hesitate, and like I predicted, didn't use it. Nobody just gets a gun out like that for spitting on someone. Regardless, I was then physically assaulted - and rightfully so. My issue is that two lesbian women just assaulted and threatened to kill a man over... spitting? In their own establishment? And last time I checked, why would a seemingly very-well off 500k+ establishment owner who owns a sports car risk it all over killing some schmuck? Fun-fact, when asked about CCTV, they said they have none, very convenient considering that I'd expect such a high-end establishment to have something like that in place, especially when they have a contract with Gruppe Six, which again, shows that they produce enough to pay a private security firm. Again, assumptions don't help anyone. Like I said, multiple times in the thread, it's not a matter on why it happens, it's a matter of what's acceptable to the community as a whole in regards to escalation. A prime example is tonight. I was pulled over, was sniffing and had red eyes. What'd the cops do? They searched me and the car. They found a gun on me and two other pistols in a bag. What could I have done? I could have shot them, got killed, respawned, and went on with my day. But no. I roleplayed it out, roleplayed running from the police on foot, getting TIRED on foot, and even /me tossing a firearm into a nearby bush, WHICH SLOWED me down to a complete stop, giving the police ample time to arrest me. I don't give a single fuck if I win or lose. What I care about is quality roleplay on a "heavy" roleplay server. If people can't roleplay, they simply shouldn't be in positions where they can make these bad decisions, and if they are, someone should try and educate them to improve their roleplay. About ten minutes ago IC. I lost the situation, lost easily 75,000 worth in guns, and you know what I did? I roleplayed. This is a roleplay server, or am I misunderstanding something in your mega-post? I try and roleplay, and I wish others did too. If I wanted to be like everyone else, I could've shot those two girls then and there for pulling a gun. I could've shot the police. I could've done whatever whenever to try and /win/ if I wanted to. I don't want that. I want to roleplay, much like everyone else here.

black mafia, something that is never touched on [to my knowledge]. Show EVERYBODY that BLACK GANGSTERS can BE ORGANIZED! TAKE IT FAR.

C.S. Lewis speaks for many Christian moralists when he calls pride “the essential vice, the utmost evil.” He asserts that pride “is the complete anti-God state of mind.” Proverbs 16:18 says, “Pride goes before destruction, a haughty spirit before a fall.” Proverbs 16:5 says, "Everyone who is arrogant in heart is an abomination to the Lord; be assured, he will not go unpunished." "WHERE THERE IS NO TEMPTATION, THERE IS NO GLORY."

this is our boy

In regards to the OP, I mean the gross misuse of it, however, hearing stances on it in general is good to see where everyone else is at mentally, to see what is and what isn't accepted in our community [which should be obvious to most, but it's not to some]. I for one, without going into too-much detail, believe that it's all too common, and I've experienced it various times from swarms of different people. The non-realistic approach to escalating something far more than it would've ever reached organically makes little to no sense to me. I for one, use to always be prone to violence and mayhem, but that usually kills any chance of interesting RP off with whoever you're RPing with, and since then have actively tried to steer more towards keeping the situation where it is without escalation. I can say, it's justified in some circumstances, and sometimes is down-right required. But to take something like, for example, an insult, and escalate that into a shooting? It's rather silly. Or, say, you spit on someone, and the instant response to being spat on is to pull out your Glock 17 with several attachments in a 500k+ interior because someone did something rude/disrespectful to you? Are these valid reasons? What makes them invalid? How would you react personally?