wicked iraheta

Couldn't agree more. Captain here always puts things into perspective.

Yeah definitely, but it is what it is. If they don't want to have this conversation, the server will simply continue to lose members & factions.

I sincerely hope this thread doesn't get trashed. It's a conversation that NEEDS to be had. If FM wants us to portray LA / California gangs, allow us to portray them in full, without trying to tell us what we can and can't roleplay in regards to the gang or what we can and can't call our faction. For example, Rollin 20's Neighborhood Blood looks and sounds much more appealing than Brouge Avenue Bloods or Prosperity Street Piru, Rollin 60's Crip sounds a lot more appealing than Imagination Court Crips does. Exactly how Mara Salvatrucha Normandie Locos sounds a lot better & more appealing than Mara Salvatrucha Lindsay Circus Locos or Mara Salvatrucha Ginger Locos. (Like come on, Ginger/Lindsay Circus? What is that?)

To add to this, my particular group that was doing the NLS clique, had put countless hours into not only roleplaying ingame, but we were also actively doing things such as drawing tattoos/graffiti for mods, drawing all kinds of designs to put up on the thread for entertainment, we'd been planning all kinds of things ingame aswell to improve the overall environment, but all of that was undermined and shot down when we were told we couldn't portray our concept simply because of a non existent street name. In my opinion, IDK about anyone else. But it's really not cool to shoot down people's ideas that they've spent countless hours working on, simply because a few people on the server want 'continuity'.

This is everything. Not to mention that Rollin (number) Crips exist in just about every single city across the united states, along with the MS-13 Normandie Locos clique. NLS is one of the most powerful and influential cliques within MS-13 and have clicks located all over the United States, just about every main city that has an MS-13 problem is GUARENTEED to have an NLS clique. We were even told we can't give a nickname to a park located in our faction's neighbourhood unless it comes from management, which in my opinion is extremely limited. They leave little to no room for compromise and it's either their way or the highway, which in my opinion takes away from a lot of the creativity and great roleplay that the gang community of this server has to offer. People fail to understand that gangs like 18th Street / Rollin (number) Crips and MS-13 cliques that use certain street names aren't restricted to that single street. The 18th Street Gang doesn't even exist on 18th Street in LA. The MS-13 Normandie Locos clique doesn't even primarily operate on Normandie Avenue in LA. In fact, they operate mainly on Irolo and 8th, 7th and Mariposa along with James M Wood Boulevard. Let me talk about 18th Street for example. Obviously 18 Street is named after an LA street. But if you go ahead and look at an LA gang map, you'll come to find out that 18th Street exists in over 15-20 neighbourhoods across LA, and only ONE 18th street clique in LA even partially occupies a street called 18th Street. As a matter of fact. 18th Street in LA isn't even part of 18st's main turf. 18th Street in LA is Drifters 13 territory. People are giving in too much to this whole continuity thing and as a result, are severely hurting the gang roleplay community & the server in general. I've bought countless people to this server to roleplay with my factions and at the moment? Many of them are considering leaving, simply because they feel that things are too restrictive and to be honest? I feel that way too. Not to bash FM's work or anything, but this whole continuity thing that people are trying to push is going too far, to the point where it's literally dictating what people can and can't RP, and in my opinion that's going to do more harm than good for the server. I've been in contact with excellent roleplayers who had great ideas what they wanted to do on the server, but they ended up leaving for the very reasons that this thread was created and in my opinion, it's very bad and REALLY needs to be re thought. I also don't really see a reason for FM to continue to deny Hispanic factions just because there's already a few Hispanic gangs on the server. It really leaves no room for other concepts. Not every Crip/Blood/Sureno gang is the same and shouldn't be treated as such.

The information's all there. It's just about caring enough to go and look for it. I could go and dig up information about any faction on the server simply by approaching people through Facebrowser and setting up meetings or conversating with them right there on FB. Hell, I could even go ingame and dig up information on other factions simply by talking to people. Go around gang territories while they're around and ask them in /do about the graffiti on their walls. Take pictures of said graffiti ICly, research the gangs through their graffiti ICly and find out who their enemies are, who they're allied with, etc. (All this can be found out simply by roleplaying studying gang graffiti IRL and ICly. You don't even have to interact with a single person ICly through this method.) You could even reach out and speak to the LSPD's gang unit if you wanted to, I'm sure they know a lot about the gangs on the server. Nobody said anything about shoving cameras in people's faces or hanging out in dangerous areas and if you think that's what reporters do, then you're wrong. We're portraying an American city on the westcoast of the US, which (you'd assume) has a very large gang problem. Every second report that goes up by the media, would realistically be about gangs. If it's not one gang, it's the other. Writing about clubs and all is cool, but it's genuinely boring. People wanna read about things that matter to them, they wanna hear about the different factions on the server and whatever information people have dug up on them. I'm not saying every person you approach ICly is gonna be 100% approachable and actually wanna talk to your character. He/she will be harassed, he/she will probably be robbed once or twice, but there's always gonna be people who are willing to conversate with you ICly and actually give you some insight into gang life in LS. I highly recommend that if you want to get In contact with a gang member ICly and find out info for reports? Approach someone that's clearly a gang affiliate through Facebrowser and start a conversation with them. Over time, ask them to meet up and organise an interview. There's a lot of roleplay that can go into things like this, to be honest. It's just about how you go about it and quite honestly? Who you interact with.

Report more on gangs & gang crime, it's pretty easy to get information on them ICly. you just need to seek it.