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Anselmi

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  1. 19 minutes ago, Dark Wizard said:

    Yeah but then u get mfers who get ajailed for robbing in vinewood while from davis (you are ONLY allowed to rob in ur own turf apparently 💀)

    If that's how the rule is being applied, I'd be inclined to agree with OP in that case. That seems excessive and beyond the scope of what the rule was intended to achieve.

     

    Not that I was shitting on their post, at least not intentionally, as there's some pretty valid points - generally locals should be well regarded and know the gang members on a personal level (living there and all).

     

    EDIT: just checked the continuity wiki for myself and found this snippet.

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    Maybe "miles" is a bit too ambiguous. I would hope people aren't getting in trouble over what's the equivalent of a 27 mile journey as opposed to 170 miles to the county.

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  2. 4 minutes ago, caballero said:

    I understand, but why cannot it be formatted as so? 

    Because that wording is pretty specific and would severely limit an administrator's ability to apply the rule to a multitude of different scenarios. Degrees of ambiguity are necessary to allow administrators flexibility in interpreting and applying the rules.

     

    Not everything can be worded so cut and dry unless the intent of the rule is to combat a very specific situation. For example, the complete reverse is a viable scenario - whereby people based in Sandy are travelling miles into the city to mug people.

     

    It's easier to leave some ambiguity in a rule than it is to flesh it out and write out every possible scenario, which is a pattern you'll find across many of the rules and not just this one. Generally, common sense should dictate what's acceptable and what isn't - but if you're in doubt it wouldn't hurt to ask before doing whatever it is you plan on doing.

  3. 8 hours ago, Peace said:

    hello this is Riley kite im sorry I did not see the report, I know what I did was wrong and I know I should have not did it and I should be Punished for my actions

    Thanks for responding, ensure you're more mindful of in game notifications and respond within the allotted timeframe going forward.

     

    Riley Kite will remain banned until 08/OCT/22 for abuse of /fixrevive. OP can make a refund request for anything they may have lost.

  4. On 9/3/2022 at 4:05 PM, Anselmi said:

    While the robbery didn't take place directly on the promenade, you're on a main route into the beach and within spitting distance of both the bike store and the promenade - this really isn't a great place to rob somebody or start shooting and I'd argue it falls within the restricted crime zone.

     

    Standing by what I said earlier, this robbery really shouldn't have occurred where it did. It'd be more plausible if he had been pressured into a more secluded location after the initial interaction, with it being somewhat of a gray area between restricted crime zones, but the fact this took place within plain view of the bike store and promenade on one of the main entrances to the beach, combined with the choice to open fire on him as he ran away, makes this wholly unrealistic. I'm struggling to understand why you felt the need to open fire on him and readily escalate a petty robbery into murder - especially in this setting.

     

    That being said...

    On 8/29/2022 at 5:35 PM, Deividas said:

    Factor A): Both of your characters appeared to be in their teenager years, which makes my character who is involved in organized crime certain that the chances of you actually shooting or being competent with using a firearm are 50-50.  There was also a realistic chance of those weapons being fake toys. The fact that you spent time chatting with me and building comfort showed me that you are not experienced with such activities and therefore felt awkward to engage in it directly and had to build some momentum. This further enhanced my thought that I was not in that great danger.

    I don't really buy into this, or the argument that they could be toy guns. I'd argue that a teenager with a gun is more likely to be unpredictable, if anything. In any case, with two guns at your back and one pointed directly at you, and server rules in mind, I don't see this being a worthy gamble.

     

    On 8/29/2022 at 5:35 PM, Deividas said:

    Factor B): My character also decided to leverage the fact that it is a public populated area and therefore gambled on you not shooting due to all the witnesses that would be in the area in that time. (Realistically, a lot of people would be there as it is the most popular beach)

    With these two factors at play, my character considered it a very viable option to make a run for his life, as the chances of harm coming to him were significantly low.

    This I can somewhat understand, but I take issue with your choice of timing and the fact you dropped that /me and ran off instantly while Gerardo was in the middle of typing.

     

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    Taking off running in this scenario would most likely result in a bullet to the back of the head. Your emote is arguably powergaming given that you offered a "response" to two very different outcomes without offering Gerardo the time to even respond. Had you turned around and physically shoved him, as you emoted as being one of the alternative responses, I imagine this would have played out differently - but again, no time was given to respond and you assumed the outcome.

     

    As for the metagaming allegations from both sides, there's no evidence that this rule was breached.

     

    Given the issues from both the reporting and reported side, I'll be issuing a warning to the involved players and the roleplay will stand as is; no refunds will be offered.

     

    Gerardo Venegas & Kiante Favors will be warned for committing crime in a restricted crime zone.

    Ruslan Nechayev will be warned for powergaming/not roleplaying adequate fear.

     

    Apologies for the delay in my response.

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    • Restricted Crime Zone — any area where mugging or asportation (transporting a person from a location to mug them) cannot occur without clear permission being given by an admin beforehand. Other crimes in these areas, particularly crime that grabs attention such as shooting, are held to a higher standard. e.g; the burden is on the person deciding to shoot to prove that the situation could not have been done in a more secure location, or that the situation was pressing enough that it demanded immediate action. No other crimes are limited within this zone.
      • Restricted Crime Zones do not apply to scripted illegal factions with a historical claim to an area, such as a gang operating within their own neighborhood or neighborhoods they would realistically operate in based on their real life equivalent and in-character development. This should not be done excessively, however.
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    Restricted Crime Zones are as follows:

    • tourist areas which include Vinewood Boulevard, Galileo Observatory (including the parking area), the Vespucci Beach promenade (the paved area with storefronts that run the length of the beach) and the Kortz Center;

    While the robbery didn't take place directly on the promenade, you're on a main route into the beach and within spitting distance of both the bike store and the promenade - this really isn't a great place to rob somebody or start shooting and I'd argue it falls within the restricted crime zone.

     

    Leading me to my next question, why did you open fire on him? Was it purely because he ran away? @qev

     

    On 8/29/2022 at 5:35 PM, Deividas said:

    Second of all, I would like to address the moment that my character ran. In the moment that he dashed out, you both had lowered the weapons away from my face. It took you precisely 8 seconds to point a gun in my face again, the only reason why you managed to point the gun on my face again before I ran was because I was typing up a /me of decent quality according to the situation.

    How did your character deduce that the guns were no longer being pointed when he was facing the wall as instructed? @Deividas

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  6. 25 minutes ago, Stephen said:

    This message is a follow-up to our conversation with @Midwest, @Large Hazard. We weighed up wisely and thought this out fully, assessed pros and cons, and adopted a final position in the community's interest. Just to ease your concerns, we've agreed to move forward with the project. Another update will follow to communicate the ETA, the progress that has been made to date, and who will be sailing the boat. In the meantime, join the project Discord https://discord.gg/ab5ztDgM if you have any suggestions. 

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    16 minutes ago, Gallagher said:

    we did it boys 

     

    lock thread pls 

     

  7. @sky~ my apologies, this fell off the radar for me. Should have dropped me a message.

     

    @sk7e desync or not, to plough through a line of parked cars and speed off without so much as a courtesy PM is unacceptable. The collision is clearly synced.

     

    Reported player will be given a warning.

  8. 22 minutes ago, Cosa Nostra said:

    "Once you established that they were with him, why wasn't fleeing an option?"

    I don't get this? you want me to leave Hassan to become brutally injured by 15 grown men attacking him? or defend him with my weapon? 

    Hassan is completely capable of removing himself from the scenario as well. Mag dumping a crowd of people over a fight your friend instigated is absolutely deathmatching and arguably powergaming given the lack of fear.

     

    23 minutes ago, Cosa Nostra said:

    Why would a cop use his weapon to defend his partner if he's getting attacked by 15 plus grown men?

    Utterly irrelevant to this scenario. Your character is a 16 year old facing off against a large crowd of "15 plus grown men", as you put it.

     

    24 minutes ago, Cosa Nostra said:

    You're not listening to nothing I said prior to this post.. The situation was escalated by the 15 plus European men in which it was an one on one argument as I backed away so Jahlil and Hassan can fight it out.. It was no reasoning for 15+ European men to attack Hassan due to him and one of there companions "Arguing" the situation was supposed to end but Jahlil kept running his mouth in which Hassan checked him about it his friends felt some way and decided to attack Hassan instead of it being an One on One fight as you can see I backed away for it to be that and they decided to attack Hassan in which I then found out they was with Jahlil as they where down the block at first and just formed a circle around everyone like a normal brawl would look like in real life and then I defended Hassan from a brutal attack of 15+ European men.

    I read your posts, but rather than counter the evidence they've provided you opted to skirt around it and contribute nothing in return. If someone was insistent on fighting your friend, I imagine you'd leap at the opportunity to jump in and back him up. As was the case here, except you decided opening fire into a crowd of people is the most logical answer. Hassan is very clearly the aggressor and initiated the fight in the videos I have been shown.

     

    45 minutes ago, Cosa Nostra said:

    Blunt force trauma can cause internal bleeding, either from fractures of bones or fractures of solid organs (kidneys, liver, spleen, etc). The loss of blood is usually what kills you when being attacked so what do you think 15 grown European men would do to one person?

    Not a lot if he opted to run away instead of continue the fight he started? That being said, you were reaching for your gun when it was just two people who had jumped in;

     

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    And it seems this narrative went out the window when Hassan decided to return 5 minutes later to kill Boris. I guess 15 grown European men don't do that much damage after all?

     

    [20:59:12] Hassan Winston just hit Boris Komarov in the Left Thigh with a GLOCK for 17 damage. His health is 6

     

    49 minutes ago, Cosa Nostra said:

    I don't get why your posting logs of me and Hassan exchaning a gun? You're going above and beyond the report? If you suspect something state it.

    I was dragged into a car, I /reported for a revive because I was at the hospital and it told me i couldn't make another report Hassan took up the gun from the car as it would realistically be because my body is there and then later on he gave me a new gun I didn't know it was the same gun? I have multiple firearms I don't care about losing 1 gun nor do I think Hassan looked at it that way either. Me and hassan exchange firearms on a daily basis? 

    1 hour ago, SmaccAh74 said:

     

    So i roleplay bring Ram to the hospital and he’d go into surgery we both made /report none of the admin’s attended to the /report.

    Very much relevant to the report considering I was spectating you prior to you logging off. I can say without a doubt, even after consulting the report logs, that neither you nor Hassan made any such report during this situation. You were already dead in the passenger seat of Hassan's rental Asbo while he was racing around Vinewood. While I was spectating you, I observed Hassan and yourself staging roleplay, emoting being pulled into the car, long after you were already gone from the scene of the shooting.

     

    I would have dealt with this in game had you not logged off, but I was waiting for a video to be uploaded. I requested the other players involved to make this report to give you the opportunity to offer your side, and you're outright lying to me.

     

    On that note, both players are now banned for lying in a report, deathmatching / poor escalation - along with what I outlined above. Those who lost anything as a result of this can post a refund request.

     

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  9. 1 hour ago, Cosa Nostra said:

    I and my companion didn't know this whole group was with him as they randomly walked up as i thought they where just bystanders watching the situation unfold, as there all obviously in the same group/ethnicity and Jahlil was by himself at the time of us being approached by him. As you see in the clip I walked away once my companion punched Jahlil in thoughts of the situation was going to be a one on one fight when there whole group of 15+ male's begin jumping my companion I'm not superman here? I' can't fight 15+ GROWN MEN by myself I began shooting into the crowd

     

    I'm struggling to wrap my head around this. Once you established that they were with him, why wasn't fleeing an option? Both you and Hassan. Why does opening fire into a crowd of people, when you are very much outnumbered, seem like the most logical response? A group jumping into a fight that your friend started doesn't automatically justify mass murder.

     

    1 hour ago, Cosa Nostra said:

    and began running after without the intent to deathmatch or just kill an group of people.

     

    But that's not true, you turned around to engage one of the people who returned fire.

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    On the subject, please explain this to me;

     

    [21:00:15] Ramiero Fuentes (M) dropped PistolMk2 x 1 (ID: 26935132) on death

    [21:00:21] Hassan Winston picked up Beretta M9A3 x1 (IDs: 26935132)

    [21:02:44] Hassan Winston placed in property (ID: 6415) PistolMk2 x 1 (ID: 26935132)

    [21:05:28] Ramiero Fuentes (M) disconnected.

    [23:46:10] Ramiero Fuentes (M) logged in.

    [23:48:34] Hassan Winston took from property (ID: 6415) Beretta M9A3 x 1 (ID: 26935132)

    [23:50:04] Hassan Winston gave PistolMk2x1 to Ramiero Fuentes (M) (ID: 26935132 )

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  10. On 8/10/2022 at 10:27 PM, Shokkoth said:

    I strongly believe that those actions were an example of powergaming for a number of reasons which I will highlight- as can be seen on the /examine screenshots attached, there is a significant difference when it comes to the appearance of the two characters - Harvey being a 6'4 muscly male, while Kiara is a 5'6 'athletic' female. I fail to understand how a much smaller female would be able to not only hold onto a much larger male, but also easily move him backwards without struggling to do so. In additional to that, Kiara never gave Harvey a chance to express whether or not his character would resist or struggle with her, in any capacity. She simply assumed that her character would be able to do whatever she wants - in nearly every encounter, roleplayers use a /do to determine whether or not their character would be successful in holding somebody back or whether they would show any resistance.

     

    I'll start by dispelling this. Players are not expected to break the momentum of a scene and question whether or not they would be "successful" every time they emote something that would impact another player. The other player is just expected to respond to that emote and / or their actions, which in this case - as I can see in the video - Harvey began to approach the vehicle after Kiara's emote of moving him towards it. In the absence of any emotes in response, I too would assume this to be compliance. That's not to say that Harvey wasn't welcome to challenge that roleplay with an emote of his own.

     

    The height/weight of the character's involved is a non issue to me given the fact the characters involved were mostly non-violent except for an emoted shove, which Harvey opted to respond to and it was left at that. Nothing was forced on you and the scene progressed as it should. If your whole point of bringing this into the argument is that a 5'6" woman could not subdue or control a 6'4" male (which wasn't really challenged at all in this scene) and should be quaking in their boots at the thought of approaching such a character, I honestly don't know what to tell you - that's a very narrow minded way of looking at it. Height and weight are not the be all or end all of a physical conflict.

     

    On 8/10/2022 at 10:27 PM, Shokkoth said:

    I also believe that Kiara displayed a very poor portrayal of police roleplay as she never informed Harvey that he was on a traffic stop or otherwise detained, until after he has left his vehicle. Up until then, Kiara has remained in her vehicle and simply used the megaphone to ask Harvey to park up his car, which he eventually did. After which she immediately jumped out and began to escalate the situation by saying that he's under arrest and began to powergame holding him and pushing him around.

    I'm not sure how realistic it is for a lonely female officer to run up to a group of four unknown people and begin shoving and pushing their friend around for no apparent reason, without the fear of their character being hurt as she has no backup present on scene and she has no idea who the individuals are. At the end, Kiara has left the scene without bothering to provide her name and badge number upon request which I believe is also somewhat unrealistic as in real life officers would be afraid of getting in trouble over something as simple as this, however I believe this might have to be handled by in-character means.

     

    From what I can gather, Harvey was willfully ignorant and purposely awkward through out the majority of the scene - arguably to the extent that would warrant an obstruction charge - though I'm not going to get into what is / isn't applicable since it's largely an IC issue which you're currently dealing with through the courts / IA process. And again, as for not identifying, this isn't something that's unheard of in the policing world. I don't see how it's unrealistic for Kiara to approach you given the following facts;

     

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    the incident took place in a public street right in front of the Mission Row Station with many witnesses and officers roaming around the area with backup on the way which arrived on scene 30 seconds from face-to-face encounter.

     

    Unless there's anything further to add or address, I'll be concluding this later today.

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  11. 14 hours ago, sk7e said:

    Its Carlito here, Im sorry for my 300ping sometimes it gets tiring, I didnt even see what i crashed into, it dsyncs so hard for me it even affects my mechanic work when i attempt to tow vehicles.. im doomed, my bad homie

    What part of that was desync?

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