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I'm very cautious about scripted gambling features.

 

Wagering on sports, races, etc. is one thing. Once you start adding gambling businesses there will be a problem. Here are the issues I see:

 

- gambling is arguably the most desirable 'business', no one will want to own anything other than a gambling shop

 

- gambling shops/casinos will be the most popular business, if one is open and available most people will flock there and nowhere else

 

- gambling, if not monitored and controlled, is an easy way for wealth to pile up...too easy

 

- gambling was traditionally used to transfer money OOCly on other servers...if you purchased LS:RP cash with RL money for example, it would be given via 'gambling' RP for protection. This WILL happen here on GTA:W as well, maybe not to a huge extent but simple things like 'gift me GoatSIM on steam for 1mil' will become a common practice. 

 

- gambling requires a lot more planning than what is presented here: Gov would need to introduce a license, the Penal Code would need to be updated extensively with gambling laws/regulations, Gov would need to have staff hired to inspect/police gambling and so on

 

- wealthy players will dump their money into gambling instead of business endeavors. Why pay employees when you can just not open your club for the night and throw the 30k you were going to have to pay player-workers into gambling instead? Why go for a business contract with another company? Why invest in literally anything else? Not everyone will think like this, but many wealthy players will start gambling and other areas of the server will hurt.

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On 12/18/2018 at 4:38 PM, Hollywood said:

I'm very cautious about scripted gambling features.

 

Wagering on sports, races, etc. is one thing. Once you start adding gambling businesses there will be a problem. Here are the issues I see:

 

- gambling is arguably the most desirable 'business', no one will want to own anything other than a gambling shop

 

- gambling shops/casinos will be the most popular business, if one is open and available most people will flock there and nowhere else

 

- gambling, if not monitored and controlled, is an easy way for wealth to pile up...too easy

 

- gambling was traditionally used to transfer money OOCly on other servers...if you purchased LS:RP cash with RL money for example, it would be given via 'gambling' RP for protection. This WILL happen here on GTA:W as well, maybe not to a huge extent but simple things like 'gift me GoatSIM on steam for 1mil' will become a common practice. 

 

- gambling requires a lot more planning than what is presented here: Gov would need to introduce a license, the Penal Code would need to be updated extensively with gambling laws/regulations, Gov would need to have staff hired to inspect/police gambling and so on

 

- wealthy players will dump their money into gambling instead of business endeavors. Why pay employees when you can just not open your club for the night and throw the 30k you were going to have to pay player-workers into gambling instead? Why go for a business contract with another company? Why invest in literally anything else? Not everyone will think like this, but many wealthy players will start gambling and other areas of the server will hurt.

Everything you just stated is an In Character issue. Blackjack is readily available anyhow and that's the top most desired game out of gambling, other than poker. Also, monitoring someone just because they got lucky and won a shit ton of money? That can happen in real life. Why be so restrictive to the players when you guys dish out 200k to us for our first 40 hours in the server?

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There used to be a poker script, it was buggy but it's been so long I don't even remember the bugs. Just suggest fixing it and putting it back. I think the biggest problem with that script was that it spawned a table and then forced you into it. Fuck that table.

Actually suggest just changing it into a base card script. Let's you start a game, deal however many cards you want face up or face down to players, go through the players in turn and let them bet, show cards, discard cards face up or face down, fold, and then let the dealer say when someone has won, who has won and how to deal with the pot. That would cover everything. Blackjack, Omaha Poker, Texas Poker, and whatever other games you want.

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On 12/22/2018 at 9:37 PM, Iosif said:

There used to be a poker script, it was buggy but it's been so long I don't even remember the bugs. Just suggest fixing it and putting it back. I think the biggest problem with that script was that it spawned a table and then forced you into it. Fuck that table.

Actually suggest just changing it into a base card script. Let's you start a game, deal however many cards you want face up or face down to players, go through the players in turn and let them bet, show cards, discard cards face up or face down, fold, and then let the dealer say when someone has won, who has won and how to deal with the pot. That would cover everything. Blackjack, Omaha Poker, Texas Poker, and whatever other games you want.

The table isn't happening. No one needs that thing randomly spawning in front of you. 

 

With that being said, forwarded. 

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