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6 minutes ago, Timzii said:

It doesn't bring immersion when you ask for specifications and all you get is a fully modded, maxed out and in OOC brackets 4/4. Not to mention the crazy inflated prices which make no sense, but that's non of my concerns.

That's understandable but that falls on the player themselves not the actual dealership idea. The people running these spots should have sales knowledge and should hire people with that knowledge or be able to train them for proper role play. 

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8 minutes ago, Hustle said:

That's understandable but that falls on the player themselves not the actual dealership idea. The people running these spots should have sales knowledge and should hire people with that knowledge or be able to train them for proper role play. 

I avoid saying "Fully maxed", instead I usually say "Has multiple performance upgrades", after which I'll give more detail to the other party if asked for clarification.

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On 7/23/2020 at 8:59 PM, Jura said:

And is the office space actually linked to the parking lot they're selling from or is it just at an address that they own, aka a house?
 

My office is right next to the lot I am using to sell cars at. Like you step outside the office turn to your left and you are at the lot. Also Sunset Autos has similar layout of you exit the office turn left and you at the lot. Office exists at multiple lots I know off.

 

Short list of lots that actually have an office meaning they own the property and parking (List of what I know!) :

  • Hawks Motors - Right outside the office.
  • Rockford Lot - Office roof is the lot.
  • Hot Autos - Right outside the office.
  • Sunset Autos - Right outside the office.

These are the ones that I know for a fact that have a proper office linked right next to their car lot.

 

So yes, if you legally obtain land and register as a business then you are a business for all intents an purposes.

 

Moreover I do not condone rushed roleplay during a car sale, properly processing a sale is the interesting part of the roleplay while car dealing, the opportunity to haggle on the price. Currently there are 2 lots that are somewhat hosted on public or previously owned lots that I believe are not properly registered, meaning they are busing the current situation where the Governmental site's not accessible so you can't register properly, causing the fact that no one is actually taking action against them YET. I hope action will be taken against them, with an option either file for an office lease & register business or shutdown.

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On 7/26/2020 at 10:13 PM, Vash Baldeus said:

the opportunity to haggle on the price.

Which is always met with "not lowering the value, take it or leave it".

 

I have rarely successfully haggled on prices. IRL whenever you ask for the dealer to lower the price, he always will. Even if the price you eventually get to is what the dealer had in mind, it's the psychology behind it.

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3 minutes ago, Glitch said:

Which is always met with "not lowering the value, take it or leave it".

 

I have rarely successfully haggled on prices. IRL whenever you ask for the dealer to lower the price, he always will. Even if the price you eventually get to is what the dealer had in mind, it's the psychology behind it.

I honestly think, you seen one dealership you seen them all, there are some good and some bad, but all of them follow the same pattern.

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2 hours ago, Glitch said:

Which is always met with "not lowering the value, take it or leave it".

 

I have rarely successfully haggled on prices. IRL whenever you ask for the dealer to lower the price, he always will. Even if the price you eventually get to is what the dealer had in mind, it's the psychology behind it.

 

2 hours ago, Engelbert said:

I honestly think, you seen one dealership you seen them all, there are some good and some bad, but all of them follow the same pattern.

Because in most cases I've had an offer made after I was asked a price for lets say I vehicle I bought for 70,000 I price it 87,000. The person asks for the price of the vehicle, I say 87,000, to which he proceeds to make a counter offer of 60,000 (not everyone do it, but there are people like that), a person like this, I won't even bother haggling because if I agree to his offer I am loosing money here, not even breaking even.

 

I've had other instances where I bought a car 80,000, priced at 97,000. A person came and asked about the vehicle, asked the price, and right after that said how about 90,000 I took him on it, why? Because he offered me something reasonable and in the end that was the price I would honestly be willing to sell the car at.

 

What I am trying to say is, you come to a Business, if a Business is not profitable it will close and shutdown. You can easily notice the dealers that close and re-open on a new location with new name, why? Because probably their lot is not as successful so changing the name and location could help try again. So far I see 3 car lots that are hard sticking around and actually make good money while making good deals to others.

 

Moreover when someone comes to my lot and asks about specific cars I always mention price is negotiable, letting them know I'll be willing to haggle to an extent of course. Some people even come in and do a trade in, give me a car and cash for another car, in most cases they upgrade like that. What I want to say here, stick with the dealers that actually gave you a good deal more than once on selling or buying a car (does not have to be my lot) because the owners will remember you and be willing to haggle and help you because you are a return costumer.

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Making 500k a day is stupid lucky, and honestly I do not believe it. Me, just like @Vash Baldeus used to run a dealership and I made about 50 up to 100 in a really good day, once or twice happened to get 200 just 'cause someone had a sports car they really wanted to get rid of, if you were making 500k a day you were scamming people not legitimately running your business. That's not the server's fault, it's your fault and it should be PM's responsibility to take the dealership away from people like you. About the "limiting the car market" thing. I think it's completely stupid. IRL Used car dealerships (the good ones) are getting boat load of business each and every day, the only thing keeping the market alive on GTAW is that people change cars often, if they haven't it would be dead. Think about it this way, RL there's millions of people looking for a replacement for their old car, in GTAW from 500 players let's say half at most are changing cars frequently, if you put a 5 to 10 day limit on a car to be sold, all you would achieve is killing the car market entirely, which would not be realistic since there's a shitton of money in it RL as well. That's like saying "you can only gamble in a casino once every 5 days" makes no sense to me. 

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2 minutes ago, Screw said:

Making 500k a day is stupid lucky, and honestly I do not believe it. Me, just like @Vash Baldeus used to run a dealership and I made about 50 up to 100 in a really good day, once or twice happened to get 200 just 'cause someone had a sports car they really wanted to get rid of, if you were making 500k a day you were scamming people not legitimately running your business. That's not the server's fault, it's your fault and it should be PM's responsibility to take the dealership away from people like you. 

Is it scamming if customers agree to the prices?

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Yes, just because they agree to it, you take advantage of people and it does not make any sense, because RL people would not sell their 1 day old car for half of the market price or less. I can understand if a dealership does it every now and then, but to make 500K a day you gotta do it all day every day, which is just scummy and unrealistic. 

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1 hour ago, Screw said:

Yes, just because they agree to it, you take advantage of people and it does not make any sense, because RL people would not sell their 1 day old car for half of the market price or less. I can understand if a dealership does it every now and then, but to make 500K a day you gotta do it all day every day, which is just scummy and unrealistic. 

It’s not a scam if people agree to the price from a buyers or sellers perspective. A vehicle (or any asset for that matter) is worth whatever someone is willing to pay for it and if someone wants to pay 600K for a 500K car the so be it.

 

people should be more savvy and pressure dealers to haggle because recently there is an issue with dealerships not willing to haggle on prices much at all. For example, dropping 1-2K on the price of a car they got for 15-20K cheaper because they know the alternative is buying the car new which costs a fair amount more.

 

cant really blame the dealers though when people are willing to pay extortionate prices for these vehicles. It works on both sides.

 

another example is selling your car, why just get one quotation and sell it. Battle dealers against each other and get multiple offers from many dealers and go to whoever offers you the best price.

 

i thought this would all be common sense really ?

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