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An idea is experienced players could be granted extra character slots for supporting ped skin characters.

 

Example:  what nothing's really happening with my real characters, so i use a ped skin to make Barney the Wino and wander around Strawberry for an hour?  I could rp it to add colorful characters to the neighborhood, and criminal rpers could have an easy target to rob without my real characters getting robbed.  The next day I could use a ped skin to rp a mom shopping, or a reporter on the scene, or another ped skin character that would add variety and life without me being locked into the role.

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Just now, BINGBONGGHOST said:

Hell no, just means we need more mature RP'ers playing realistic female characters, they're not some alien species you can only emulate if you're a woman yourself.

 

I think the issue is that the straight male players may not be particularly interested in rping their female characters dating or having sex with a man, so there is a very high number of gay or bi females.  Maturity is one thing, and I think the maturity exists on this server, but it's more a question of interest.  There's nothing wrong with more female players who would likely have more of an interest in rping M/F relationships.  While male players can rp female characters, and some male players can do it quite well, there's nothing wrong with more female players.

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1 hour ago, jcat said:

 

I think the issue is that the straight male players may not be particularly interested in rping their female characters dating or having sex with a man, so there is a very high number of gay or bi females.  Maturity is one thing, and I think the maturity exists on this server, but it's more a question of interest.  There's nothing wrong with more female players who would likely have more of an interest in rping M/F relationships.  While male players can rp female characters, and some male players can do it quite well, there's nothing wrong with more female players.

If you decide to play a female character you should be playing just that, a realistic female character, gender OOC doesn't mean jack, why everybody seems to think the endgame of RP is sex will always be beyond me but it shows on a lot of these characters unfortunately and leads to what we have now, boring macho male characters that'll kill you over the smallest of domestic disputes disguised as tacky pornstar-esque lesbians only intended for ERP, worst of both worlds.

 

They want to live out a "cool" character that takes no shit like some typical action film protagonist but also want to play a hot lesbian for their weirdly sexual OOC motivated RP and it's a terrible look, not only for the server but for the playbase as a whole and I honestly wish it'd change but this is far from some new phenomenon and has been a thing since the SAMP days which will never change, doesn't make it any better though.

 

We have people OOC that'll happily lynch a black man IC for looking at them the wrong way if the rules didn't forbid it, rape women they've kidnapped for no apparent reason and behead people over a petty roadrage incident but can't stomach kissing a man? Come on now. 

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What matters is what players want to do and what they don't want to do.  No one has the right to tell them how to play their characters.  Gay women do in fact exist, especially in Los Angeles, so playing a gay or bi female character is perfectly realistic.

 

The commenter specifically mention straight females, therefore his comment had some kind of sexual context.  Otherwise he wouldn't have mentioned sexual orientation.  

 

The rest of your post is like some other conversation, like some argument, that you were having with a bunch of other people who were all the bad qualities you mentioned.  I'm not them.  I'm not talking about sex-minded ERP tantrikas, I'm not talking about lynch mobs, rapists, or roadrage beheaders.  I don't care because I'm not talking about them and what they can stomach or not stomach.  If they're such shitty rpers that you have that much vitriol about it when you're talking to someone who has nothing to do with whatever those situations were, don't rp with them.

 

I'm talking about why so many female characters are gay or bi, and suggesting that more female players would be more likely to play characters that would do something to solve the problem that the commenter stated.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, jcat said:

What matters is what players want to do and what they don't want to do.  No one has the right to tell them how to play their characters.  Gay women do in fact exist, especially in Los Angeles, so playing a gay or bi female character is perfectly realistic.

Lesbians exist, obviously, I was gonna clarify that in my reply but I don't think you need me to outline they're not mythical creatures, you however can't tell me the vast majority of lesbian characters on the server are anywhere close to being realistic in their portrayal, my problem isn't lesbian characters, it's shitty lesbian portrayal and how it's used as a way for people to channel some of their weird borderline sexual OOC desires IG.

 

Thought it was obvious my issue was with bad portrayal, not homosexual RP. 

 

1 hour ago, jcat said:

The commenter specifically mention straight females, therefore his comment had some kind of sexual context.  Otherwise he wouldn't have mentioned sexual orientation.  

Yes, straight women IC.

 

You brought up "straight male players may not be particularly interested in rping their female characters dating or having sex with a man" which pushes the idea that straight people OOC might not feel comfortable RP'ing out romantic gestures or sexual encounters with someone of their same gender which sure, I can understand to an extent but to clarify with this point: 

1 hour ago, jcat said:

I'm not talking about sex-minded ERP tantrikas, I'm not talking about lynch mobs, rapists, or roadrage beheaders.  I don't care because I'm not talking about them and what they can stomach or not stomach. 

I find it weird how people will gladly RP this sort of stuff like it's the most normal thing ever but a realistically portrayed single woman on a RP server is too far? Nothing wrong with any of these scenarios as long as they're IC and only motivated IC but it does seem a little bullshit, at least to me. 

 

People'll argue that if there's certain parts of the RP that they downright don't enjoy why would they bother in the first place but that sounds partly like they're not willing to try something new and would rather play a character that's safe and uninspired, leading people to follow and end in what we've got now.

 

1 hour ago, jcat said:

I'm talking about why so many female characters are gay or bi, and suggesting that more female players would be more likely to play characters that would do something to solve the problem that the commenter stated.

 

"Hey women! RP straight characters for us because we're too uptight and scared to do it ourselves!" 

 

That's all I get from these sort of statements and it stinks, I know you're not saying it directly but that's the vibe I get from it.

 

The only thing stopping people from playing straight female characters is themselves and themselves only, you shouldn't have to rely on women OOC to fit a role on a server where you can literally play anybody you want, be the change you wanna see. 

 

If anything sexual's a problem even though that should be the last thing on your mind, that's what FTB is there for.

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As a straight female RPer, I usually find it hard to come across interesting, complex, male RPer's for any kind of mature relationship. I've even find it easier to find other straight females to roleplay friendship, than decent guys to roelplay a relationship or even friendship aswell. So I don't think it's a matter of gender, but people's mentality when roleplaying. And I'm not saying a guy should be a perfect gentleman ICly, but having flaws, fears, an interesting conversation, and being creative while roleplaying. Of course, it has to be mutual. Even an ICly "asshole" is cool to RP with if it's well portrayed.

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This thread seems to revolve around that topic listed above...

 

so returning to subject. I'd like to see more avenues of legal RP, Church RP (god bless), more kind of activist RP, hell even if its very basic, some kind of series of videos designed to emulate like a TV show or something. Legal RP is at the point where its now beginning to see some love both from FM and players creativity. Combine that with hopefully an election system for gov to give political motivations to some aspects of it, or a city council to provide the gaps of what may be needed IC to get stuff to work and finally the server might progress from the focus being Cops and Robbers (gov factions vs illegal factions) and more to an actual life based roleplay "simulation" (I use that word lightly here). Especially going back to the TV aspect, reality shows may be absolutely annoying (its like marmite, some like it some dont) but they would provide so so much more to the servers depth, and personally I believe groups like prestige and elegance might be in the best spot to make that happen and to truly set the example for other groups who might have the idea there. (sry for tag but @Selena as it mentions your faction )

 

If the biggest issue people have is about the characters.. eh go ahead but people I believe should be looking at the bigger overall picture. 

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51 minutes ago, Perstephone said:

You'd probably get more straight female RPers if male characters weren't so sleazy and prone to sexual harassment/assault.

 

this. i have been portraying female characters for over 10 years now, the only constant has been the immature brains behind the screens of my peers portraying male characters. i know that catcalling and sexual harassment exist in real life, but damn, if you could see yourselves as I see you... those people picking on the others for portraying lesbians, you're probably not better than they are in any way shape or form because you're simply symmetrical to their ideals, just under a different shade

 

read at your own risk in case you have some funny ideas about my sexuality

Spoiler

i am a straight turkish dude with a huge penis

 

 

so anyway, i am glad someone finally pointed it out, ty perstephone. you all need to realize that there is a whole other side of this spectrum that you're just not aware of, due to already being there

 

 

but hey, on topic, more casual civilians. the biggest problem with roleplaying communities, in my opinion, is that everyone wants to have a very special character, nobody wants to have their character be like everyone else. the purity and innocence of being an average human is the most lacking aspect as far as I can tell

 

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