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maramizo

remove the silly ooc restriction on who gets to use the second amendment

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maramizo    19
3 minutes ago, Midwest said:

(maramizo, I have no idea where you got automatics from, I never referenced or specified any specific type of firearm) 

i never said you did, but a PF license only grants access to shotguns and glocks, the weakest tier of weapons.

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Midwest    11
1 minute ago, Shmoe said:

And that's the sad truth. No matter what median you find, the players themselves will find ways to abuse it. But overall, revoking a 2nd amendment right that is current in the USA from certain players, and other players having the right. Seems unfair from my point of view.

I agree, fundamental aspects of what we're portraying should not be negated. It is unfair to those who understand reality and wish to properly roleplay around said subject. 

 

 

And I know it only grants access to shotguns and glocks, not sure what you're trying to say to me, we seem to be on relatively the same page about this. 

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eTaylor    27

Could just make a thing where you can request exemption from the rule. Another major motivator to stay out of trouble and not do dumb shit without thinking about the consequences.

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DLimit    100
1 hour ago, Mantle said:

Quote the relevant parts. Not reading the whole thing.

 

 

 

The following people are generally prohibited from acquiring or possessing a gun in California:

  1. felons (that is, anyone convicted of any felony offense in any jurisdiction),5
  2. persons who are addicted to narcotics,6
  3. persons with two (2) or more convictions under Penal Code 417, California's law against brandishing a weapon,7
  4. persons convicted of certain misdemeanor offenses (such as a violation of Penal Code 273.5),8
  5. persons who suffer from mental illness (people placed on two involuntary psychiatric holds in a year get a lifetime gun ban),9 and
  6. people under 18 (people under 21 may not purchase a gun).10

Penal Code 29810 requires that people convicted of the requisite crimes must relinquish their firearms to authorities. 

If you are prohibited from owning a gun, you are also prohibited from owning ammunition.11

Anyone else may possess a firearm or ammunition (other than armor piercing ammunition).12 However, in order to purchase a handgun, you must possess a valid handgun safety certificate.13

If you have the legal right possess a gun, there are several ways to exercise your Second Amendment right to bear arms.

 

 

All of the above is all that really matters when it comes to ACQUIRING AND POSSESSING A FIREARM which is what the PF license is used for. Carrying a firearm on you concealed is a whole other bucket of worms and yes, it is A LOT more restrictive. But for the most part, the vast majority of people, including gang members with zero convictions, can and do possess guns in the USA, including California. 

 

And to answer some people saying 'legal weapons shouldn't flood the illegal market', it is realistic for legal weapons to flood the illegal market.

To even add to that, most gangs attain military-graded weaponry since their fellow gang-affiliated associates, such as Bloods, Crips, MS-13, Sureno, Latin King etc... smuggle the weapons to these sets as military agents.

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Tennplugg    131
2 hours ago, eTaylor said:

Could just make a thing where you can request exemption from the rule. Another major motivator to stay out of trouble and not do dumb shit without thinking about the consequences.

I agree with this. 

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