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  1. 1. When Menyoo was introduced to GTAWorld did it change the server in a way?

    • Yes, It made the server worse.
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    • Yes, It made the server better.
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    • Nah, It's still the same as before.
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How does Menyoo correlate with roleplay standards in-game, if someone could please elaborate to me LOL.

From what I've read so far, the mod has an impact on Facebrowser, bare in mind a huge chunk of Instagram's population edit their photos extensively, they don't look as they do in real life. I personally don't see an issue with using custom clothes or editing your face for a social media platform, as long as they haven't got an exo-skeleton suit on.

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1 minute ago, Gall said:

How does Menyoo correlate with roleplay standards in-game, if someone could please elaborate to me LOL.

From what I've read so far, the mod has an impact on Facebrowser, bare in mind a huge chunk of Instagram's population edit their photos extensively, they don't look as they do in real life.

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23 minutes ago, Smonk said:

to get a little on that last point: for some people, that's quite literally just a timezone/inability to get on often, just cause you don't see em ig doesn't mean they aren't ig ever. a lot of people on gtaw (including the ones doing a lot of the "fb like milking/flexing" have IRL jobs and conflicting timezones that keep em busy, at least the ones I know, can't imagine it's entirely different for the others.

 

I asked multiple people from different timezones if they have ever seen them and guess what the answer was? I thought it's just me but it wasn't just me.  Now I'm wondering, if you are that busy with life and stuff which is understandable, what's the point of wasting your time on a server you don't have time to play, buy premium feature on a fake social media just to boost some pictures? That's quite questionable to me.

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1 hour ago, Smonk said:

to get a little on that last point: for some people, that's quite literally just a timezone/inability to get on often, just cause you don't see em ig doesn't mean they aren't ig ever. a lot of people on gtaw (including the ones doing a lot of the "fb like milking/flexing" have IRL jobs and conflicting timezones that keep em busy, at least the ones I know, can't imagine it's entirely different for the others.

i see their point in that would you rather spend a few minutes IG walking around doing absolutely fuck all with no RP cus there's not really much to do if your characters friends aren't on and there are no places open because it's not peak hours of the server, OR would you rather spend a few minutes in singleplayer getting a pic for your characters social media? arguably just as useless as those wasted minutes IG, however much more entertaining typically.

Not everyone can just log on and be on 24/7 hounding story plot RP so everyone sees them and knows they log in and are active, and that's the case for a lot of the main characters of the players doing that. Alts that are just for fun that post mostly on fb but aren't IG are a whole nother thing entirely though.

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I feel(probably true, probably not true idfk) a lot of the hate menyoo gets stems from elitists that think RP means DEV DEV DEV SCREENSHOT TOPIC OR YOU'RE NOT A VALID RPER, which is far from the truth and a stigma I've literally only seen in normal life gta rp servers for some odd reason. Not saying that's everyone doing it, but the people I commonly see/hear about insulting people oocly just cause they spam pics on fb are pretty much that stereotype, usually.

I personally think people are kinda going crazy over menyoo for p much no real reason. It reeeally aint that deep. It's just pictures on IC social media lol. Certain kinds are bad, yes, but the whole "MUH MUH ALL U DO IS PICS UR BAD GO IG MORE" is kinda stupid. What if they can't? If you don't even rp with the person or want to RP with them then why even waste energy complaining about them lmao.

There's a small problem in a general slightly less active /portion/ of the community but not enough that it actually affects anything. I'm on at random ass times in different timezones and I always see the same people that were active before menyoo active now, so IDK why everyone seems to think it's ruining the server lol. P sure they're overreacting cause they're annoyed that people paid money and got to use the boost feature that comes with it on fb (which I understand, but it's still kinda childish)

You make some valid points when it comes to timezones and in real life commitments but our points are primarily based on people (not specifying) who do not make the effort to go in game, I do take into consideration that people who have commitments cannot always be in game, for example, myself! I've got tennis most weeks and then I've got college along with additional course work and somehow I'm managing to juggle a job too. It comes with time management and it understandably could mean that the said person gets on later, that's fine. That doesn't make them inactive, HOWEVER, it does reduce their recognition, not like that's a major factor anyway. If you're online late, which is fine, and you're enjoying yourself regardless of the time, then there is simply no issue.

 

The stigma, I agree, it revolves around a bad atmosphere and a bad reputation that stereotypically people who use menyoo do not come in game, simply because that is what happened previously with certain characters; fueled by Facebrowser as some characters who post screenshots do NOT exist in game and that is the main issue.

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using menyoo for a few epic character screenshots is fine imo, but if that's all you do and you don't RP then it's an issue. also it should be used realistically for realistic screenshots (if you wish to use that on social media/on an IC basis), it's kinda weird to see model-looking cops on facebrowser tbh but whatever

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3 hours ago, Maca said:

People are achieving things in-game by using Menyoo out of the game that they otherwise wouldn't have achieved via the script. Because nobody cares to regulate the usage of it, it's abused by the majority of people that like to play as females without understanding exactly how to roleplay a female so just prance around in pretty dresses and make-up and insult people on Facebrowser for the fuck of it. As long as Facebrowser exists, so will Menyoo. 

 

And lets be honest... Facebrowser is going nowhere because it keeps the loud majority happy that'll otherwise leave because they have nothing else to do other than have sex, talk dirty on the platform and post soft core porn pictures of their characters using Menyoo to tweak it up.

 

You encourage stupidity, you attract stupidity and then it multiplies like a bacterial host. It's too far into Facebrowser now to turn back so complaining really doesn't get you anywhere and most of the time when you do complain you get into trouble for doing so.

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2 hours ago, Gall said:

How does Menyoo correlate with roleplay standards in-game, if someone could please elaborate to me LOL.

From what I've read so far, the mod has an impact on Facebrowser, bare in mind a huge chunk of Instagram's population edit their photos extensively, they don't look as they do in real life. I personally don't see an issue with using custom clothes or editing your face for a social media platform, as long as they haven't got an exo-skeleton suit on.

Because it shows demographics. You see how many people actually value their avatar's looks over roleplay.

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1 hour ago, Winslow said:

You make some valid points when it comes to timezones and in real life commitments but our points are primarily based on people (not specifying) who do not make the effort to go in game, I do take into consideration that people who have commitments cannot always be in game, for example, myself! I've got tennis most weeks and then I've got college along with additional course work and somehow I'm managing to juggle a job too. It comes with time management and it understandably could mean that the said person gets on later, that's fine. That doesn't make them inactive, HOWEVER, it does reduce their recognition, not like that's a major factor anyway. If you're online late, which is fine, and you're enjoying yourself regardless of the time, then there is simply no issue.

 

The stigma, I agree, it revolves around a bad atmosphere and a bad reputation that stereotypically people who use menyoo do not come in game, simply because that is what happened previously with certain characters; fueled by Facebrowser as some characters who post screenshots do NOT exist in game and that is the main issue.

Yeah, I agree on that for the most part and wasn't arguing that, any of the pictures that aren't possible IG are kinda bad, or at least I mean in terms of outlandish shit like creating whole scenes that just won't happen. (i.e guns you don't have, cars you don't have/are literally unable to obtain) My point was pretty much just to clear the air and try and make people stop generalizing everything, as that's pretty much the reason of this topic's existence even if unintentional on the poster's part, which just gets back to the stigma we both referenced. Can't tell you how many people i've watched see a menyoo pic and quite literally lose their shit for no reason at all. It's a fuckin picture LOL. Wewlad someone cares about how their character looks.

 

On the flip side though, what I was saying also applies to some of the things in that aspect as well. There are characters that don't exist, however, what's on their profile is harmless. It's selfies, modeling-like pics. It's people just having fun with menyoo and using that character to post stuff so they can say "hey look I made a cool pic!" essentially. There's nothing wrong with it. It does no harm. The amount of bad compared to the good is pretty much minimal IMO.

 

The worst parts of menyoo are the lack of consistency within character looks because people don't take the time to make their faces identical, which is easy if you create your char in gtaw first by 5's and 0's like menyoo has it (takes some finesse as some of menyoo's ids are swapped with gtaw's, some negatives are positives in menyoo) and boom, it transfers over almost perfectly. The wacky photos of things your character doesn't actually have in the server (I.E if someone other than Sam Courtland takes photos with a Sultan RS, it's kinda fuckin weird considering he's the only one in the server that has one?) ETC. Same with guns all that. It'd be no different than if I gave Nathaniel Byers a Turismo R and recorded a track race like he owned the car or something, even though he's a broke college kid. That stuff? It's bad. Yes. This we agree on.

Characters on FB that don't exist IG? Harmless, sorry. Literally harms nothing, it's not bad. Big deal. Really. No reason to complain about this and I have no idea why some are. ICly there would obviously be more people in the city than the 200ish peak playerbase, otherwise that would be really fuckin weird to literally be roleplaying a massive LA-sized city with 200 people to live in it and maintain it, so why can't there be faces on FB that you won't see because they don't actually exist as an alt/player IG. It doesn't hurt anything. It's just idle fun for the person doing it.

I'll touch on the whole "don't make the pic if it's not roleplayed" with the above logic as well. If you're offline does your character magically stop living? Menyoo's a good way to get pics and just post idle fluff on FB. Also harmless. (not saying you argued against that, just something i felt like adding)

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This whole subject in and of its self though is kind of useless anyway as it hasn't changed a single thing other than the quality of pictures both cringy and good. People were posting the same stupid shit and doing that before Menyoo was around too. It's just more high quality now. It's not really a question of "did menyoo do this", but rather, why the hell are some people with extremely low standards of RP even allowed to be around. Good conversation, but pointless to worry about as it's not harming anything ig. Just making the occasional cringe lord moments on FB. Why people are worried why a very select few out of multiple hundreds of people playing aren't coming ig cause they spend all their time on menyoo is more worrying to me. Just because they're in the community doesn't make them obligated to come in-game every single moment they get the chance, and it doesn't make them any less of a roleplayer if they are or aren't active, it just makes them simply that, active or inactive. Menyoo doesn't really change this. (whether it's plausible as the one we agree on with the unrealistic photos that are impossible to have ig in terms of materialistic things in them)

I personally feel it'd be good to create a proper IC company that manages the site. Moderators that actually have a brain and won't just delete something cause they don't like it or have a preconceived notion that it shouldn't exist. That way things can be moderated and we can just get rid of the stupidity currently going on on the site that everybody - including myself - joins in on because it's pretty much the only thing to do on there if you're trying to avoid the people just hunting erp.

 

also holy fuck text wall i can really fuckin shit these out with 0 effort when im bored

 

tl;dr for the real ones

 

i agree but this is a pointless topic cus menyoo's p much harmless no matter ur feelings it didnt change much if anything at all on FB, and p much nothing IG, it just made the shitkids with no rp standards/character consistency more obvious cus they post dumb shit that shouldnt be allowed













 

2 hours ago, Invictus said:

 

I asked multiple people from different timezones if they have ever seen them and guess what the answer was? I thought it's just me but it wasn't just me.  Now I'm wondering, if you are that busy with life and stuff which is understandable, what's the point of wasting your time on a server you don't have time to play, buy premium feature on a fake social media just to boost some pictures? That's quite questionable to me.

being busy doesn't mean you can't enjoy things enough to waste money on stupid shit like that. it's very questionable, i agree. however, some people just have the money to waste and feel like doing it. thats on them. is it harming anything? no. it's benefiting the server since they're getting donations essentially, so why worry bout it? I'm poor as fuck and I've donated to the server (for vip mind you, not fb pro) so it really doesn't surprise me when someone does that so they can boost pics they spent time making. It's very pointless and not everyone/anyone wants to see boosted pictures, however they paid for the feature, you can expect them to use it to show off the pictures they make, whether it's a basic selfie/model shoot or a cringy pic on a car you don't own IG.

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26 minutes ago, Smonk said:

Yeah, I agree on that for the most part and wasn't arguing that, any of the pictures that aren't possible IG are kinda bad, or at least I mean in terms of outlandish shit like creating whole scenes that just won't happen. (i.e guns you don't have, cars you don't have/are literally unable to obtain) My point was pretty much just to clear the air and try and make people stop generalizing everything, as that's pretty much the reason of this topic's existence even if unintentional on the poster's part, which just gets back to the stigma we both referenced. Can't tell you how many people i've watched see a menyoo pic and quite literally lose their shit for no reason at all. It's a fuckin picture LOL. Wewlad someone cares about how their character looks.

 

On the flip side though, what I was saying also applies to some of the things in that aspect as well. There are characters that don't exist, however, what's on their profile is harmless. It's selfies, modeling-like pics. It's people just having fun with menyoo and using that character to post stuff so they can say "hey look I made a cool pic!" essentially. There's nothing wrong with it. It does no harm. The amount of bad compared to the good is pretty much minimal IMO.

 

The worst parts of menyoo are the lack of consistency within character looks because people don't take the time to make their faces identical, which is easy if you create your char in gtaw first by 5's and 0's like menyoo has it (takes some finesse as some of menyoo's ids are swapped with gtaw's, some negatives are positives in menyoo) and boom, it transfers over almost perfectly. The wacky photos of things your character doesn't actually have in the server (I.E if someone other than Sam Courtland takes photos with a Sultan RS, it's kinda fuckin weird considering he's the only one in the server that has one?) ETC. Same with guns all that. It'd be no different than if I gave Nathaniel Byers a Turismo R and recorded a track race like he owned the car or something, even though he's a broke college kid. That stuff? It's bad. Yes. This we agree on.

Characters on FB that don't exist IG? Harmless, sorry. Literally harms nothing, it's not bad. Big deal. Really. No reason to complain about this and I have no idea why some are. ICly there would obviously be more people in the city than the 200ish peak playerbase, otherwise that would be really fuckin weird to literally be roleplaying a massive LA-sized city with 200 people to live in it and maintain it, so why can't there be faces on FB that you won't see because they don't actually exist as an alt/player IG. It doesn't hurt anything. It's just idle fun for the person doing it.

I'll touch on the whole "don't make the pic if it's not roleplayed" with the above logic as well. If you're offline does your character magically stop living? Menyoo's a good way to get pics and just post idle fluff on FB. Also harmless. (not saying you argued against that, just something i felt like adding)

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This whole subject in and of its self though is kind of useless anyway as it hasn't changed a single thing other than the quality of pictures both cringy and good. People were posting the same stupid shit and doing that before Menyoo was around too. It's just more high quality now. It's not really a question of "did menyoo do this", but rather, why the hell are some people with extremely low standards of RP even allowed to be around. Good conversation, but pointless to worry about as it's not harming anything ig. Just making the occasional cringe lord moments on FB. Why people are worried why a very select few out of multiple hundreds of people playing aren't coming ig cause they spend all their time on menyoo is more worrying to me. Just because they're in the community doesn't make them obligated to come in-game every single moment they get the chance, and it doesn't make them any less of a roleplayer if they are or aren't active, it just makes them simply that, active or inactive. Menyoo doesn't really change this. (whether it's plausible as the one we agree on with the unrealistic photos that are impossible to have ig in terms of materialistic things in them)

I personally feel it'd be good to create a proper IC company that manages the site. Moderators that actually have a brain and won't just delete something cause they don't like it or have a preconceived notion that it shouldn't exist. That way things can be moderated and we can just get rid of the stupidity currently going on on the site that everybody - including myself - joins in on because it's pretty much the only thing to do on there if you're trying to avoid the people just hunting erp.

 

also holy fuck text wall i can really fuckin shit these out with 0 effort when im bored

 

tl;dr for the real ones

 

i agree but this is a pointless topic cus menyoo's p much harmless no matter ur feelings it didnt change much if anything at all on FB, and p much nothing IG, it just made the shitkids with no rp standards/character consistency more obvious cus they post dumb shit that shouldnt be allowed













 

being busy doesn't mean you can't enjoy things enough to waste money on stupid shit like that. it's very questionable, i agree. however, some people just have the money to waste and feel like doing it. thats on them. is it harming anything? no. it's benefiting the server since they're getting donations essentially, so why worry bout it? I'm poor as fuck and I've donated to the server (for vip mind you, not fb pro) so it really doesn't surprise me when someone does that so they can boost pics they spent time making. It's very pointless and not everyone/anyone wants to see boosted pictures, however they paid for the feature, you can expect them to use it to show off the pictures they make, whether it's a basic selfie/model shoot or a cringy pic on a car you don't own IG.

I like where you’re coming from and nah the gods say you might’ve influenced my opinion slightly.

 

i do understand that LA/LS wouldn’t operate at its size with 200+/- people, however, the issue being and which I think is rather prominent would be “why rp a character you don’t own/possess” - arguably and as you said it brings no harm, I agree, but I also think, in my opinion that it’s just unfair for those who rp with them on FB and can never rp with them on the main server, being GtaW.

 

Overall, I do think Menyoo has its ups and downs as aforementioned, although, I do appreciate everyone’s photos, be it screenshots in game, menyoo, company business, paint, paint.net, photoshop, whatever it is they use or don’t use, I respect it. This could perhaps mislead someone which comes to mind, everything else is as you stated, sometimes people genuinely do want to show off their skills and god are some of them highly talented. The posts could arguably be influential to those who are inexperienced but I also think it can bring the community together in a way as something to discuss, like we are now. But evidently, and all most inevitably, there will be cons, that’s just a given.


Edit: I am on my phone so please be a tad lenient with the length of my responses and the grammar.

 

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4 minutes ago, Winslow said:

I like where you’re coming from and nah the gods say you might’ve influenced my opinion slightly.

 

i do understand that LA/LS wouldn’t operate at its size with 200+/- people, however, the issue being and which I think is rather prominent would be “why rp a character you don’t own/possess” - arguably and as you said it brings no harm, I agree, but I also think, in my opinion that it’s just unfair for those who rp with them on FB and can never rp with them on the main server, being GtaW.

 

Overall, I do think Menyoo has its ups and downs as aforementioned, although, I do appreciate everyone’s photos, be it screenshots in game, menyoo, company business, paint, paint.net, photoshop, whatever it is they use or don’t use, I respect it. This could perhaps mislead someone which comes to mind, everything else is as you stated, sometimes people genuinely do want to show off their skills and god are some of them highly talented. The posts could arguably be influential to those who are inexperienced but I also think it can bring the community together in a way as something to discuss, like we are now. But evidently, and all most inevitably, there will be cons, that’s just a given.

 

 

Yeah feel you that's the only real harm with the characters that don't exist is that you pretty much won't meet them unless you somehow unintentionally convince their player to make the character ingame via the chats you have with them on FB. Pretty sure that happened with 1 or 2 of em but not many. That said, I don't think it's heavily commonplace for that to be a thing but I don't know confidently so I won't really give a firm opinion/stance on it.

 

then again i feel like half the people that chat to eachother on there never meet ig anyway even if they do exist LOL

 

as for the why rp a char u dont possess thing, I think that kinda falls into what I said to invictus with the whole "well, yeah, but people are people" argument, cause I mean. People quite literally are people. We do some questionable shit to entertain ourselves. I don't think it's harmful enough of an issue to really worry about or get angry over as some people might however considering how minor and few they are.

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