liq Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 (edited) Real useful. I'll be adding some more aspects below if you don't mind. Credits go to Surfer, Chrome and me. You can add all of this in the 1st post if you want. - Can a character be half-Hispanic? Yes, he can be. The scene is friendly to people which are part Hispanic. White gangs were influenced early on by Hispanic gangs, so they have no problem with the cholo thing. When you end up in prison, you need to identify with one of the groups. The other thing is that gangs also dictate in part of which group you represent in. For example, a white Norteño/Sureño will usually go with the Hispanic group. So in that line of thought, a peckerwood/skinhead gang member who has the last name of Hernandez, will have no trouble in running with the whites. It's about numbers. Your character can even be Jewish. African-American characters are expectedly not permitted. Should there be any drug use? White gang members are notorious for their use of methamphetamine. The white man's crack. If you are not smoking it, then someone next to you is. White gang politics revolve around prison and the meth trade. Almost all PEN1 members are drug users. Some cook it, some get it from other gangs. There is a long list of stories how white gang members get messed up on meth, then go do some crazy shit they get arrested for. Sometimes it keeps them up for days and makes them very paranoid. Characters should ideally not be from other states Your character should not be from other states. The reasons for this are stated above. Even if he is from a California area with a lot of peckerwoods/skinheads, or a California white gang, it will still not be ideal. There is no way you can politic around any of that, because it is not present in-game. We are set in San Andreas. If you are from California and get arrested in California, then you will go to an appropriate level California prison (Corcoran, San Quentin, Ironwood, and such). If you are from San Andreas and get arrested in San Andreas, then you will go to the appropriate facilities. Why is it important where a character is from? Politics and realism. When you go to prison, you search for your people. People from the same place as you are from. This is your first job. They would know someone, who knows someone, who knows someone who knows you. If you are from Vespucci Beach and you end up in prison, you will search for any other homeboys from Vespucci Beach. If you are to be stabbed, protected, or told something, it is the people from Vespucci Beach which will do it. If you are a released PEN1 member from Mirror Park, for example, you can return to your area and run it with your reputation. There are areas and counties in real life which have a high peckerwood/skinhead gang population—because of this a lot of politics come in place. Being from the Vinewood Hills, for example, would strip your character from experiencing this, and will make his presence in the white gang world much more difficult. Female involvement in white gangs Every white gang (those with prison ties) have used women to help them organize things. Like do visits, deliver messages, smuggle dope, give dope to somebody, take care of money, abuse her position at a job if they work (like stealing data for identity theft/credit card fraud), do three way calls. Someone needs to handle personal errands like those. It's usually women. And women join "this life" by being in a relationship/family/circle of criminals. Remember that those people are not that poor. It's not like they had no choice. They hang with the wrong crowd and before you know it, they're smoking meth, then doing petty crime. Not saying every featherwood or skinbyrd should get a boyfriend off the jump, but it's usually how it goes. Edited July 12, 2019 by liq Link to comment
Thimble Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 I wanna keep this bumped for a bit as it seems people don't really comprehend these types of criminals and it has an unfortunate tendency to bleed into IC interaction. 1 Link to comment
shiroq Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 There should be "RP Guides" Section for these kind of guides, really good stuff. Link to comment
Bospy Posted July 13, 2019 Author Share Posted July 13, 2019 3 hours ago, liq said: Real useful. I'll be adding some more aspects below if you don't mind. Credits go to Surfer, Chrome and me. You can add all of this in the 1st post if you want. - Can a character be half-Hispanic? Yes, he can be. The scene is friendly to people which are part Hispanic. White gangs were influenced early on by Hispanic gangs, so they have no problem with the cholo thing. When you end up in prison, you need to identify with one of the groups. The other thing is that gangs also dictate in part of which group you represent in. For example, a white Norteño/Sureño will usually go with the Hispanic group. So in that line of thought, a peckerwood/skinhead gang member who has the last name of Hernandez, will have no trouble in running with the whites. It's about numbers. Your character can even be Jewish. African-American characters are expectedly not permitted. Should there be any drug use? White gang members are notorious for their use of methamphetamine. The white man's crack. If you are not smoking it, then someone next to you is. White gang politics revolve around prison and the meth trade. Almost all PEN1 members are drug users. Some cook it, some get it from other gangs. There is a long list of stories how white gang members get messed up on meth, then go do some crazy shit they get arrested for. Sometimes it keeps them up for days and makes them very paranoid. Characters should ideally not be from other states Your character should not be from other states. The reasons for this are stated above. Even if he is from a California area with a lot of peckerwoods/skinheads, or a California white gang, it will still not be ideal. There is no way you can politic around any of that, because it is not present in-game. We are set in San Andreas. If you are from California and get arrested in California, then you will go to an appropriate level California prison (Corcoran, San Quentin, Ironwood, and such). If you are from San Andreas and get arrested in San Andreas, then you will go to the appropriate facilities. Why is it important where a character is from? Politics and realism. When you go to prison, you search for your people. People from the same place as you are from. This is your first job. They would know someone, who knows someone, who knows someone who knows you. If you are from Vespucci Beach and you end up in prison, you will search for any other homeboys from Vespucci Beach. If you are to be stabbed, protected, or told something, it is the people from Vespucci Beach which will do it. If you are a released PEN1 member from Mirror Park, for example, you can return to your area and run it with your reputation. There are areas and counties in real life which have a high peckerwood/skinhead gang population—because of this a lot of politics come in place. Being from the Vinewood Hills, for example, would strip your character from experiencing this, and will make his presence in the white gang world much more difficult. Female involvement in white gangs Every white gang (those with prison ties) have used women to help them organize things. Like do visits, deliver messages, smuggle dope, give dope to somebody, take care of money, abuse her position at a job if they work (like stealing data for identity theft/credit card fraud), do three way calls. Someone needs to handle personal errands like those. It's usually women. And women join "this life" by being in a relationship/family/circle of criminals. Remember that those people are not that poor. It's not like they had no choice. They hang with the wrong crowd and before you know it, they're smoking meth, then doing petty crime. Not saying every featherwood or skinbyrd should get a boyfriend off the jump, but it's usually how it goes. If you wrote this section I’ll definitely add it in. Link to comment
Netsrac Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 On 7/13/2019 at 12:53 AM, liq said: Real useful. I'll be adding some more aspects below if you don't mind. Credits go to Surfer, Chrome and me. You can add all of this in the 1st post if you want. - Can a character be half-Hispanic? Yes, he can be. The scene is friendly to people which are part Hispanic. White gangs were influenced early on by Hispanic gangs, so they have no problem with the cholo thing. When you end up in prison, you need to identify with one of the groups. The other thing is that gangs also dictate in part of which group you represent in. For example, a white Norteño/Sureño will usually go with the Hispanic group. So in that line of thought, a peckerwood/skinhead gang member who has the last name of Hernandez, will have no trouble in running with the whites. It's about numbers. Your character can even be Jewish. African-American characters are expectedly not permitted. Should there be any drug use? White gang members are notorious for their use of methamphetamine. The white man's crack. If you are not smoking it, then someone next to you is. White gang politics revolve around prison and the meth trade. Almost all PEN1 members are drug users. Some cook it, some get it from other gangs. There is a long list of stories how white gang members get messed up on meth, then go do some crazy shit they get arrested for. Sometimes it keeps them up for days and makes them very paranoid. Characters should ideally not be from other states Your character should not be from other states. The reasons for this are stated above. Even if he is from a California area with a lot of peckerwoods/skinheads, or a California white gang, it will still not be ideal. There is no way you can politic around any of that, because it is not present in-game. We are set in San Andreas. If you are from California and get arrested in California, then you will go to an appropriate level California prison (Corcoran, San Quentin, Ironwood, and such). If you are from San Andreas and get arrested in San Andreas, then you will go to the appropriate facilities. Why is it important where a character is from? Politics and realism. When you go to prison, you search for your people. People from the same place as you are from. This is your first job. They would know someone, who knows someone, who knows someone who knows you. If you are from Vespucci Beach and you end up in prison, you will search for any other homeboys from Vespucci Beach. If you are to be stabbed, protected, or told something, it is the people from Vespucci Beach which will do it. If you are a released PEN1 member from Mirror Park, for example, you can return to your area and run it with your reputation. There are areas and counties in real life which have a high peckerwood/skinhead gang population—because of this a lot of politics come in place. Being from the Vinewood Hills, for example, would strip your character from experiencing this, and will make his presence in the white gang world much more difficult. Female involvement in white gangs Every white gang (those with prison ties) have used women to help them organize things. Like do visits, deliver messages, smuggle dope, give dope to somebody, take care of money, abuse her position at a job if they work (like stealing data for identity theft/credit card fraud), do three way calls. Someone needs to handle personal errands like those. It's usually women. And women join "this life" by being in a relationship/family/circle of criminals. Remember that those people are not that poor. It's not like they had no choice. They hang with the wrong crowd and before you know it, they're smoking meth, then doing petty crime. Not saying every featherwood or skinbyrd should get a boyfriend off the jump, but it's usually how it goes. This is a pretty good addition to the topic I would say. Link to comment
Netsrac Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 Wes Watson has some good points that's for sure Link to comment
Keta Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 Some more of WW, if you're interested in educating yourself. Watch all of his videos. Link to comment
Benny Black Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 Wes Watson is really only helpful for inside prison, but still good to watch all the same. Link to comment
Trupiano Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 A must read guide. Especially with prison inbound. 1 Link to comment
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