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The thing is, plenty of businesses open that aren't bars or clubs and they get zero support. If nobody comes, people won't open the business. And before someone jumps in and complains about people wanting to turn a profit. Standing in a business for three hours and only getting 5 customers is not fun RP either. If you want to see something other than bars or clubs, turn up when they open. It's purely supply and demand.

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Fuck what this nigga is saying,^^^ Tortilla Flats V3 looking solid, no one I'd rather have in conflict and in peace ?, y'all keep it up.

Care package (Part 1/2) 護理包

Short description: Total overhaul of the clothing system, including clothing pieces being items, clothing store businesses, not all clothing not being available at every clothing store on the map, tailor job, and wardrobe system. Detailed description: Currently, the clothing system works for what it is, but it could be a hell of a lot better, and open up plenty of roleplay opportunities, especially with 1.1 being right around the corner, where clothing mods will be far more feasable. I have several points to make regarding this suggested clothing system, starting with; Clothing items: Right now, you can't save more than 20 outfits, and often, multiple of these will be a duplicate of the same outfit, with a slightly altered piece. For example, on Gavin, my hoodie with a kutte on top of it, jeans, sunglasses and riding boots. One of it, I have a helmet which I use for riding obviously, and one with a red beanie which I roleplay having a Bastards MC logo on. Every time I wanna swap it I have to run to an interior, or to my vehicle, when instead I could be carrying the bike helmet and beanie as items on me and swap whenever. Wardrobe system: With a system to buy clothing as items, a weight would obviously need to be determined and set on items. Instead of storing these items in your house and taking up most of your storage space (which is already very limited compared to realistically), there should be a wardrobe storage in a house, where you can store another X amount of weight in, but only accepts clothing items. House owners could manually set the wardrobe point in a house, which would be accessed with the global interaction key, Y. This storage should be a GUI based one (so should the whole inventory system be but that's a suggestion for another time) with pictures of the clothing items. Two tabs; "Wardrobe", and "Carrying". Simple, straight forward CEF GUI. Click on an item in the "Wardrobe" tab, item gets added to your inventory. Click on an item from the "Carrying" tab, it gets added to the wardrobe. The "Carrying" tab has an extra part to it which shows all your currently equipped clothing pieces, apart from the rest. Right clicking items from either tab equips them instead. A command should also be added to access a CEF GUI with the clothes you're currently carrying, only being able to drop items or equipping them. An /ame is generated in any case when equipping / unequipping a clothing item. The current /outfit system remains, but requires you to be carrying the clothes on you, or be standing at a wardrobe which has the items available, to be able to use it. Which means, you can do /outfit from anywhere now. No more powergaming clothing changes at your car! Clothing menu expanded: As stated above, /outfit remains, but you must be at a wardrobe point or vehicle which has the clothing items in it, or have the clothing pieces on your person. Underwear can be selected in CEF based menu, meaning you can have various underwear under your /shirt and /pants, in the form of undershirts and maybe even other shirts (ie a wife beater under a hoodie), same for female characters, along with bras. You could have your bikini under your main outfit to go to the beach, without needing to either run to your car to switch to it after roleplaying getting changed, or without having to drive up to the beach in your bikini. The clothing menu would have these components: - Hat - Glasses - Ears - Accessory - Top (also automatically defines your torso) - Undershirt (which also allows for certain "Top" items to be equipped) - Pants - Underwear - Shoes - Decal (Unsure if this will be a necessary slot anymore after 1.1 rolls around) Player owned clothing stores: With such a system now being in place, it would make sense for people not to be able to buy any piece of clothing from any store. Why would I be able to buy a leather kutte or cheap jeans at Ponsonby's, or a full suit from Binco? Players should instead be able to open their own clothing stores, selling whatever variety (so long as it's realistic) of clothing they desire. Couple examples I can think of, are MC factions. Some of us roleplay having supporter T-shirts with our MC's logos on them, as well as various accessories. These could be sold only by a clothing store owned by a member of said MC, along with various kuttes, riding boots, sunglasses, band t-shirts and whatever else you can picture your typical biker wearing. Another example, a record company could sell merch repping their artists, or the label itself. Radio station owners, like Kawaii FM, could sell merch with the fantastic graphics they've been working on to kick off the radio station. There's so many possibilities that could sprout from such a system. With player owned stores and player made brands, there obviously needs to be a way to obtain these clothing items, which leads me onto my next point; Tailor job/business: Owning/leasing a tailor business grants you the ability to upload clothing mods to the server through the UCP. (Which obviously have to go through approval of staff, for quality assurance, making sure the system isn't abused to upload trollish content. New content can be properly added to the server either weekly, or every time the server updates to a new version.) Upon uploading custom content, the design remains available for your tailor business alone, and none other, allowing brands to maintain their exclusivity. You have to roleplay for a certain amount of times/lines to create these items. This roleplay can be performed by the owner, if the business is a small one, or by employees of the business should the clothing line be a larger one, making clothes in bulk. The creation of clothing would go something like this: You clock in at the tailoring business, open a CEF based GUI for selecting which clothing item you want to create, as well as how many of them you want to create. Upon selecting these options, you have to start roleplaying the creation of the item. Depending on how many you are creating, more roleplay needs to be done. If creating a bulk of clothes, the increase in roleplay amount should not be linear, but rather curving, as you can make multiple parts in batches, and creating clothes in bulk is less time consuming than creating it piece by piece. The server SHOULD NOT tell you how many lines you need to do, and to prevent people from analyzing exactly how many lines are required, it should randomly vary a little. After you're confident your roleplay was good enough to finish a piece/batch of clothing, you do /finishclothes and if the server determines you roleplayed enough, the item is added to the business inventory, or a specific inventory apart from the business itself, which truck drivers can pick up orders from, to deliver to clothing stores. It should be possible for the tailor business owner to determine a percentage of the order's price to go to the trucker/logistics company the trucker is hired by. (This might indeed mean an overhaul of the trucking/delivery job as well, but rest assured! I have a suggestion coming for that some time today as well! It involves the logistics app you're about to read about just below.) It should also be possible for tailor businesses (mainly smaller ones, realistically) to cut the trucker middleman, and deliver smaller orders themselves, saving on delivery fees from truckers. Logistics app (phone): Clothing store and tailor business owners/employees should gain access to a new app on their phone (if employed rather than owning, access to the app should be limited to a certain rank of employees) which on the clothing store end, is used for requesting clothing from tailors, and on the tailor's end, used to view these requests made by stores, and depending on whether or not it suits them, can choose to bid (against other tailor businesses) on the order or not. For example, a tiny independent tailor would not accept a bulk order for a thousand t-shirts, as they could not realistically fulfill the demand in time, the same way a large tailor with 20 employees wouldn't bother with a request for ten t-shirts. The app would include: Clothing store side: - List of tailors accepting orders. - - List of designs offered by the selected tailor brand/business. - - Placing orders of specific designs offered by the selected tailor. - - - Placing orders should be a shopping cart thing; Click on the item you want for your store, upon clicking you select how many you want, and it gets added to the cart. From there, you can check out and place the order. - - - - If the tailor business was already accepting orders, the order automatically gets approved, and is paid upon delivery. If the business was not marked as accepting orders, the order is forwarded regardless, and can be manually approved by a high enough ranking employee, or the owner. - Placing generic orders which tailors can bid on. Example: I want to order a thousand black t-shirts and a thousand pair of jeans for my business, they're bland, no specific brand, any tailor can make them. I place the order, and allow tailors to bid on it, see who can get me my order at the cheapest price, while also balancing the time it'll take for them to complete the order. - - Being able to set how long you're accepting bids for, up to a week, being able to end the "auction" at any time you desire. - History of orders made by your store, and by which employee. Tailor side: - List of orders made to your specific business. - List of auctioned orders. - - Adding bids to "auctions". - History of orders made to your business, by which store, by which employee of said store, and who it was fulfilled by. Commands to add: /setwardrobe - Useable by house/business owners - Sets an interraction point where you're standing to access wardrobes with Y. Adds a visible purple circle on the floor. /wardrobe - Access the wardrobe menu from anywhere. If away from the wardrobe point of a house/business, you only see your own inventory of clothing, and what you have equipped. If near an unlocked vehicle with an open trunk, you can also access the vehicle's clothing inventory and equip clothing from it. The rest would all be done with the phone app and through CEF GUIs! (I mean, come on, it's time to modernize) Items to add: Clothing! Lots of it! How would your suggestion improve the server? - It would promote business to business interraction, both by providing goods, AND working on designs together. - Prevent /outfit powergame at vehicles - Offer more variety in your day to day clothing, instead of using the same three /outfits you've set up for varying occasions, effectively making people stop wearing the same clothes almost every day. - Overall give a more realistic feel to the server. Additional information: This is a suggestion for when 1.1 rolls around, which will bring ease to adding clothing mods to the server. Getting pictures of every single existing piece of clothing will be no easy thing to do, which is why, if this were to be implemented, the community should help by providing screenshots of clothing pieces, as well as names, and for tops, matching a torso ID so that we no longer have to sort through which one works, automatically matching them to the clothing piece. Upon uploading a new piece of clothing with the tailor system, a screenshot of the clothing piece should be uploaded, and for shirts/tops, the torso ID it belongs with.

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OH AND BEFORE YOU SAY "WELL GANGBANGERS DONT ALWAYS WANT TO MURDER EVERYONE" NIGGA IF YOU ROLEPLAYING A GANG AND YOU SEE THE ENEMIES RIDE BY 4 DEEP IN A WHIP AND YALL GROUPED UP HELLAS 9/10 YOU'RE GONNA GET SHOT UP.... I DONT ENCOURAGE BLOCK WIPING BUT IF A SHOOTING LIKE THAT HAPPENS I DONT SEE THE PROBLEM WITH THE CROWD BEING SHOT AT..... IF YOU'RE LOCKED INTO GANG RP THEN YOUR INSTINCT AS A STREET NIGGA SHOULD TELL YOU THAT "AY MAN WE NEEDA SPLIT UP OR HIT THE HOMIE HOUSE OR SUM" OTHERWISE YOU ARE MAKING YOURSELF A TARGET.... THE KEY TO SURVIVAL IN GANG RP IS TO KEEP YOUR EYES OPEN IC/OOC... ITS LITERALLY A GAME OF SURVIVAL WHEREAS IN REAL LIFE ITS A TRUE FIGHT FOR SURVIVAL.... ON GTAW YOU GET MULTIPLE LIVES IN RL YOU GET ONE. YOU GOTTA BE SHARP TO BE ON THE STREET GANGBANGING ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU KNOW YOU ARE ACTIVE... AND BEFORE YOU TRY TO PULL THAT "AGE CARD" NIGGA LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING... MOTHERFUCKERS START BANGING WHEN THEY ARE IN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL (AT LEAST THE NATURAL BORN BANGERS DO)..... IT IS CLEAR AS DAY THAT THESE NIGGAS DO NOT GIVE A FUCK ABOUT ANY OF THAT AGE/GENDER SHIT. SOME STREET NIGGAS ARE PRONE TO HAVE MORALS WHILE OTHERS DO NOT... DON'T EXPECT THE NICEST OF INTERACTIONS FROM ANY OTHER GANGS IC.... ACTUALLY BE SURPRISED IF YOU COME ACROSS A NICE MEMBER OF ANOTHER GANG BECAUSE SHIT HAPPENS AND YOU CAN GET TESTED IN DIFFERENT WAYS DEPENDING ON HOW YOU PRESENT YOURSELF IN THE STREET.

I WAS RAISED BY THE WOLVES

This thread will follow the development of Benjamin Vaughan, a quiet boy growing up under the influence of his Father, the President of the Bastards Motorcycle Club.

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It is so unrealistic that everything is being advertised as a bar or drinking hole, Wigwam doesn't need a bar, it's a fastfood joint, nor does Ground & Pound. We really need some guidelines setup against this as it's getting obnoxious by now.

Hello everyone! Welcome back to another Staff Update. This month has been a very busy time for the entire team, especially with certain Administrators returning to school. We'd like to apologize for any recent delayed response times you may have experienced. We will be continuing to build and improve as a team in order to increase our efficiency. Do note though, our staff members work very hard nonetheless and deserve some appreciation, make sure to keep that in mind when dealing with any member of the staff team. Very notably, this month we had the server's first political elections! This was our first time running these elections and we will continue to build on the system and improve it. We thank everyone who participated and has provided us with feedback. It was great to see the engagement from the community and we hope to see the engagement only improve as the system further develops. Make sure to thank @Static and Legal FM for their hard work to get these elections up and running. Election Results: Central District - Alex Flynn - (R) Western District - Tanya Sun (D) Northern District - Jonathan Spencer (R) Eastern District - George Valencia (D) Southern District - Wallace Abbasi (D) Blaine District - Joseph Hoffman (R) LSNN Article: We look forward to the upcoming month with our brand new staff members and wish everyone returning to school the best of luck. Canadian Admin Promotions Game Administrator Level 3 to Game Administrator Level 4 @Bombie (Head of Property Management) Game Administrator Level 2 to Game Administrator Level 3 @Frezemis (Head of Leasing) Game Administrator Level 1 to Game Administrator Level 2 @Truffle Trial Administrator to Game Administrator Level 1 @Invictus @Phiz @Wirbelwind Senior Support to Trial Administrator @MrsHamster @Doosty @Pillsbury Support to Senior Support @ThatMuricanGuy @effion Junior Developer to Gamemode Developer @Rauf @Strobe @Canadian New Junior Developer @Tampa New Support Team Members @Barross @Foster @jesscatXD @Jesu1 @Jax With our new staff application system, if you were not given support you can check your application to see if it was marked as denied or reserved, accompanied with the reasoning and required improvement. Please allow us with 48 hours to update the status of your application. Any denied applicants this month may not reapply until the staff applications open again in December for January 2021's staff update.

Harsh Souls ?↣｜[❗WE ARE LOOKING FOR MANAGERS❗]｜↢ ? Harsh Souls is currently looking to hire a new manager to assist with running the store. ???? ?? ???????: ? You must be 18+ years old. ? Dedication to the store. ? Friendly and helpfulness. ? Discretion. ? Well-groomed appearance. ? Advertisement abilities are not required, but very helpful (( 1 month of Gold Membership will be provided for free if not already acquired )). ? Willing to work with adult items. ? Capable of supervising employees, keeping track of times and assistance with paperwork. ???? ?? ?????: ? Flexible working hours to your own choosing. ? Friendly co-workers with no bullshit. ? Advertisement training (( 1 month of Gold Membership will be provided for free if not already acquired )). ? ~$10.000 per opening in salary + sales. ? Free goods and services provided by our store. ??????????? Contact us via one of the following methods. FB: Abi? Phone: #9800 Email: [email protected] (( Forum PM / Discord: Mia#8868 ))

A TEST OF ALLEIGANCE

The Package

glad to see you caught up on all the sleep you lost crying about the fac, smithy

I hate and feel that a lot of the law/ruling/general opinions that are enforced around gang roleplay 9 times out of 10 are made by dudes that have absolutely zero clue with gang roleplay and have no experience, trying to tell people why would a gang member kill another one in a bar or even in public this and that like are you okay? Gang members REAL gang members are down to put in work whenever and where ever and a lot of them don’t give a fuck about witnesses too, I just think overall more experienced gang intact role players should have more of a say of ruling around that type of stuff. I’m tired of having to think twice of doing gang shit because somebody gone cry and I’m gonna get punished for something you really shouldn’t be punished before because it’s realistic grimey gang RP.

@Erica Kane NIGGAS SHIT ON THE ROLLIN 60S ANY CHANCE THEY GET BUT AS FAR AS GTAW GANGBANGING GOES IT NEEDS TO BE MORE LIKE IN THIS VIDEO... THIS WAS THE MOST REALISTIC EXAMPLE OF GANGBANGING THAT HAS BEEN PUT OUT SO FAR... FOR THIS SERVER AT LEAST... ALL OF MY GANGBANGER ROLEPLAYERS PLEASE PAY CLOSE ATTENTION TO THIS VIDEO IT MAY NOT BE PERFECT BUT YOU GET WHAT THE ROLEPLAY WAS AIMING FOR.... THIS BEEF HAD SHOOTINGS YEAH BUT IT DID NOT REQUIRE MULTIPLE DEAD BODIES AT ONE TIME NOR DID IT ESCALATE TO COMPLETE BLOCK WIPES OR NOOBY ASS 30 MAN BRAWLS..... PAY FUCKING ATTENTION... ALL MY FACTION LEADERS YOU'RE GREAT BUT TAP IN ON THIS VIDEO THIS IS A GOOD IF NOT GREAT EXAMPLE ON WHAT LA GANGBANGING SHOULD BE LIKE WHEN REPLICATED IN GAME @Batter Up @Craazy @Captain @Naeno @Shvag @Trap-Money Scooby @Flame @PapaDoc @red raggin @Baby Renegade @Yavina @Tejana YO IF U DONT LIKE THAT I TAGGED U MY BAD BUT I DONT GIVE A FUCK CHANGE NEEDS TO HAPPEN DEAD BODIES 24/7 IS CORNY ALL OF UR FACTIONS HAVE GOOD ROLEPLAY IN HOUSE, LETS START WORKING TOGETHER AS A COMMUNITY TO MAKE THIS SHIT BETTER THAN IT IS OR IN OTHER WORDS.... COMMUNICATE FOR THE BETTERMENT OF THE COMMUNITY. THATS THE FUCKIN SLOGAN

Niggas from the hood are not gentlemen what the fuck are you talking about? It depends on what type of nigga you run into, use your brain. You think a motherfucker gonna brush you off if you stepped on they fresh Jays? Fix your brains, it all depends on what type of gangster you dealing with, if this nigga seems to be like he's a violent person, I doubt you'll step in his path. The REAL problem is there is too much of this "fake violent" mentality going on, there's way too many crash dummy characters rather than a separational spirit within the gangbanging world... IN GANG BANGING YOU HAVE YOUR: SHOOTERS (niggas that know how to do hits and have morals, they tend to use their heads when going on a hit) PITBULLS (niggas that will fight anybody over anything small / the homies AKA your SQUABBLER aka YOUR GANG'S NO#1 FIGHTER) CRASH DUMMIES (niggas that will do any and everything just to sustain the reputation of not only their name BUT THE GANG in its entirety, which MEANS THEY WILL RISK ANYTHING just to see their gang WIN in a conflict... THEIR LIFE AND THEIR FREEDOM) HUSTLERS (niggas in the gang that will TAKE IT UPON THEMSELVES TO BRING THaT GWALLA IN FOR THEIR FAMILY, THEY ALL DONT REALLY GET DOWN WITH THE BANGING BUT THEY KNOW WHAT SIDE TO PLAY ON — THEY ARE ALSO KNOWN AS YOUR SLIMES BECAUSE THEY WILL TURN ON THEY OWN GANG FOR A DOLLA / BETRaY GANG RULES FOR A BUCK) @DLimit YES I TAGGED U BECAUSE U DO HAVE SOME GOOD IDEAS POSTED ON THIS THREAD BUT CHECK IT OUT.... WHAT NEEDS TO BE IMPLEMENTED: INDIVIDUALITY IN GANG RP: WHICH CONSISTS OF YOUR GANG ROLES ABOVE; EVERYONE WANTS TO ROLEPLAY A GANGBANGER THAT'S PLAYS ALL OF THOSE ROLES IN ONE, NO NIGGA THIS IS NOT AVATAR. REAL LA GANGBANGING/GANGBANGERS ALL KNOW THAT YOU'RE NOT ABLE TO BE THE SHOOTER AND CAN FIGHT... SOMETIMES YOU CAN HAVE A MIXED ATTRIBUTES BUT NO MY NIGGA YOU CANNOT BE THE ULTIMATE GANGSTER... PICK A ROLE, KNOW YOUR ROLE AND PLAY THAT ROLE TO THE FULLEST EXTENT... THERE'S NO WAY A HUSTLER CHARACTER SHOULD BE GOING ON HITS WHEN THE GANG HAS 6 SHOOTERS PLAYING THAT ROLE... STAY IN YOUR LANE. WHAT NEEDS TO BE TAKEN OUT OF GANG ROLEPLAY: EVERYONE ALWAYS TALKS ABOUT HOW GREAT GANG RP USED TO BE ON LSRP IN 2011 AND 2013 ALL THE TIME LIKE NO NIGGA IT WAS GOOD FOR ITS TIME BUT NOW WE ONTO SOME MODERNIZED GANGBANGING SHIT.... THERE'S NO WAY THAT A LARGE GANG CONTAINING 30+ MEMBERS IS JUST GONNA MARCH THROUGH ANOTHER GANGS HOOD WITH THE INTENT OF HAVING A LARGE BRAWL.... I AS AN SSCC ENDURED THIS PLENTIFUL TIMES AND LET ME TELL YOU IT IS A PAIN IN THE FUCKING ASS... THIS IS NOT 2009 IMPERIAL GROVE STREET FAMILIES VS RYDER BLOCC BALLAS... NO THIS IS GTAW WHICH MEANS REALISM IS THE FUCKING POINT.... YOU WANT TO HAVE A SQUABBLE, YEAH SURE... YOU DO THAT BY ASSEMBLING YOUR "PITBULLS" (LOOK ABOVE) AND TAKING THEM TO THE ENEMIES REQUESTING FADES, YOU DONT MARCH OVER WITH 24+ NIGGAS INTO SOMEONE'S HOOD WHAT DO YOU EXPECT? NIGGAS WILL SHOOT YOU AND YOU CAN'T REPORT OFF THAT BECAUSE THAT TYPE OF SHIT WILL HAPPEN IN THE MODERN DAY HOOD THAT IS LA.... IF YOU'VE BEEN LIVING UNDER A ROCK OR HAVEN'T BEEN PAYING MUCH ATTENTION TO LA GANG CULTURE IN 2020 THEN YOU'D REALIZE THAT GUN CULTURE IS VERY RELEVANT AND SERIOUS... AS OF RIGHT NOW THE ROLLIN 60S - ROLLIN 100S ARE LOCKED IN A WAR WITH THE HOOVER CRIMINALS AND THERE ARE DEADLY SHOOTINGS HAPPENING EVERY 3 DAYS IT SEEMS.... GET IN TUNE, UP YOUR GAME AND UPGRADE GANG ROLEPLAY... THIS IS NOT 2011-2012 AKA THE GOLDEN ERA OF GANG RP ON LSRP.... THAT SHIT GETS ANNOYING AND BORING. CREATE NEW SUBSTANCE ACCORDING TO REAL LIFE GANG RULES

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10/1/2020 - Cell Block B - Edgar "Jail Bird" Salinas

Some very cool content is coming soon about all this ?

Yeah, I get both sides of the issue, but on a server where Mechanics make between 50 to 80k an hour on average. Car dealers make between 20 to 40k an hour on average. Pawn brokers make between 10 to 25k an hour on average (and are allowed to /openbusiness for an extra 20k) People RPing sex shops or jewelry stores can magically pull items out of their ass for $50 which they sell for anywhere from $500 to $50,000 and make 20-30k an hour on average. I get that there might be abuses happening in the cracks, but when some players are easily making 100k+ a day from their roleplay, I am not too sure clutching at pearls to prevent someone from making 12-32k/day (in exchange for three or more hours of roleplaying a business open to the server) is the right move. Especially when we're not even allowed to roleplay being wealthy or owning more than a few assets, so it's not like excessive amounts of money are good for anything. Hell, people can go get an automatic job at a 24/7 without needing to roleplay any interview process or anything, and they can be making $4,000 an hour plus making 30% of all sales. If someone buys a $5,000 mask, that's a $1,500 bonus. 24/7 employees can easily make 8-12k an hour, which is what someone RPing in a restaurant kitchen makes the whole opening. As it stands in my case with the gastropub for instance, for us to have an opening, our kitchen staff first needs to spend approximately a full hour roleplaying prep work. There's also more work that goes into it ICly before that, with our executive chef coming up with recipes, brainstorming menus (which we fully roleplay), acquiring ingredients, catching fish or purchasing meat from RPers playing butchers. Then, during the opening, every single item is actually realistically roleplayed being cooked. Someone ordering an entree means that a waiter needs to take the order, ICly run the order to the kitchen, the kitchen needs to grab the ingredients and prepped goods and work as a team with IC communication to create this item, then to plate it, and then it needs to be ICly run back over. One dish that we're charging only a few hundred bucks for takes about 10+ minutes of roleplay involving 3-5 people who I must pay $4,000+ an hour out of my pocket to make it worth their while. That means it costs me more than $2,000 to serve a player a dish at my establishment. I personally do not care about profiting. I really don't. But I also understand that a business model where I'm paying $50,000+ out of pocket for a business which makes virtually no money (especially compared to other business types in the game which make upwards of 300k/day) is not sustainable. I will keep opening this brewery/gastropub and providing awesome RP for people, but there will come a time when I will not be able to afford it anymore, at which point the project will have to close. PM can prevent all of this by just allowing us to use the restaurant script instead of the bar/nightclub script, but no such luck.