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  2. This was discontinued a while ago because there was little interest in codifying non-criminal matters. The document is also in use elsewhere and so, in light of GTAW’s management aversion towards cooperating with other communities, reproducing it here probably wouldn’t be appropriate, unfortunately.
  3. Update Completed all Chapters to Part C (limitations). The first draft of Subtitle 1 is complete. Work continues on Subtitles 2 and 3. Part C creates time limits for complaints depending on the nature of the complaint. It also contains "tolling" (where the 'clock' stops and does not count towards the limit). The time limits are: When does the clock (repose) begin? It begins when at the point at which three things all are true: 1. you became aware of some damage, injury or loss because of some wrong by another, 2. you became aware of who that person who wronged you is, and 3. you became aware that you have the choice of complaining. Keep in mind that for 1. and 2., the clock may begin when it was reasonably expected that you become aware, rather than when you actually became aware. So, for example, if you want to bring a complaint for defamation (by way of slander), you have 21 days of rest/repose; you must bring your complaint within 21 days of those three things above all being true. Otherwise, your complaint is out of time. There are situations where this clock is paused. These situations depend on the nature of the complaint, but there are also general situations that apply to all complaints: e.g. where it would have been impossible for you to bring a complaint (e.g. you were in a medically-induced coma), or where the defendant has wilfully obstructed you to prevent you from bringing a complaint. Tolling based on the nature of the complaint: Tolling in general (applies to all complaints):
  4. Some suggestions on points to discuss: > Chapter 1, Section 4 (agency: employees, contractors and employers) Question: Should employees and contractors be regarded as agents of the person who hired them? In this code, the default position is that an employee is an agent of the person who hired them (the employer who is also a "principal" in this legal relationship); further, a contractor becomes an employee (which, in turns, means the contractor becomes an agent as well) of the person who hired and retained them. Should this be the default position? Why it matters: Having agency, for the purposes of that Subtitle, would mean that the person who hired them is can be responsible for any loss caused by them as long as the loss occurred within the "scope of employment." (Keep in mind that, while agents have authority to negotiate and enter into agreements on behalf of the principal, this is not engaged in this Subtitle (torts), because it is an area of contracts which is an entirely separate Subtitle.) > Chapter 5, Section 2 (duty of care) Question: Are there any other situations where it would not be fair, just or reasonable to impose a duty of care? Also, should any of the situations currently covered be changed in some way? Why it matters: Sometimes imposing a duty of care can have consequences a society would prefer to avoid. When a court imposes a duty on someone to act with "reasonable care and skill," that person is exposed to liability when they fall below that standard. The natural result is that they would take extra caution to avoid falling below the standard. Sometimes this extra caution has adverse consequences that are best avoided. A common consequence regarded as best to avoid—one of the most—is "opening the floodgate;" that's to say, courts do not want to create new duties where doing so would result in an overwhelming amount of complaints. The law is supposed to move incrementally and in predictable ways. By creating new duties that didn't exist before, the law can become unpredictable and move towards disorder, rather than maintain order. I will grant that "floodgate litigation" is not problem in GTAW because our courts aren't overwhelmed and there's no risk of them becoming so; but we also don’t want to open the floodgates because we probably don't want to create "compensation culture" — as the phrase goes — where people preoccupy themselves with looking for reasons to sue. So which situations are codified currently? There are eleven contained in three subsections (c, d, and e): 1. A witness of fact does not owe a duty to a victim of crime. 2. Nor does a witness of fact owe a duty of care to an defendant on trial (justification: because we don't want to make witnesses fearful of being sued). 3. An expert witness does not owe a duty to a victim of crime. 4. Nor does an expect witness owe a duty of care to a defendant on trial (justification: same as for witnesses of fact, plus they are self-regulated so when their conduct falls below the standards of their profession, they can be disciplined that way) 5. A judge does not owe a duty of care to a victim of crime. 6. A judge does not owe a duty of care a defendant on trial. (justification: judges cannot be sued, again because of the consequences of exposing them to suit, as well as the fact that the state provides mechanisms to appeal errors which judges make). 7. A prosecutor owe a duty of care to a victim of crime. 8. Nor does a prosecutor owe a duty of care to a defendant on trial. (justification: generally want to avoid making prosecutors fearful because their role is an important one, and self-regulated by their professional peers) Possibly the most controversial one where jurisdictions differ: 9. A police officer does not owe a duty to a victim of crime. 10. Nor does a police officer owe a duty of care to a defendant on trial (justification: like prosecutors, police officers have an important role in investigating and ferreting out crime, and making them overly cautious generally doesn't help) And possibly the least controversial: 11. A rescuer or good samaritan does not owe a duty to a person in distress. (justification: it’s just not nice suing someone who tried to help you just because they failed to achieve an outcome you'd have preferred; and, if we allowed this, it would make people more fearful and inclined to avoid helping one another, which is a quality most societies would prefer to avoid) Keep in mind that those situations in the code are not exclusive of any other; courts are free to create new situations because of Section 2(a)(iv). Also keep in mind that some jurisdictions have removed these "de facto immunities," such as Canada and England, where expert "immunity" has been either diminished or removed altogether. Since this post turned out to be long. I will leave it here and bring up some other points to discuss later.
  5. Our intention for this code is a comprehensive place that an attorney can consult whenever dealing with civil actions and that it's aimed towards ESL learners. We are mostly looking for legal words or concepts that could be better explained (either in the clause or the definitions section).
  6. Part D should likely be removed or amended. A witness can remain silent/refuse to answer if the question would directly or indirectly incriminate themselves. I might suggest a more hefty penalty for part 2. Furnishing alcohol to minors is almost always treated as a more serious offense (can even be a felony in the US) vs. those of an adult age. All in all though, looks decent. It's nothing insanely complicated and I think that most if not all players can easily grasp the concept without having to be overly knowledgeable or dumping hours into research. Definitely easy enough to expand upon as well.
  7. Unfortunately, there isn't a system set in stone regarding this kind of service. However there is no reason it can't be RP'd. I would suggest contacting the Public Defender's Office with the State Gov and going from there. To the best of my knowledge there really weren't any freelance Lawyers around and even if there are now the pricing would be ridiculous. Generally speaking an expunging or sealing of misdemeanor criminal records comes with a Court/Magisterial fee and must be after X period of time without further convictions.
  8. hi short time lurker, first time poster I'm curious about how one would go about expunging misdemeanors from their records? I understand that it's a thing in the real world, to have traffic violations legally cleared from a person's record. Obviously criminal charges like manslaughter will probably just stay on your record forever. Is this a thing in the current judicial system? Would be nice to have a brief overview of how this system goes. My knowledge of law is super rusty and only applicable to the UK. No idea how the American system works and how much it differs.
  9. TITLE 2 - CRIMES AGAINST THE STATE AND PUBLIC JUSTICE (2)01. Treason 1. Any person who levies war against the state, attempting to overthrow the Government. Punishable by life imprisonment upon trial. (2)02. Bribery 1. Any person who gives or offers any bribe to any government official or employee whether elected or appointed. 2. Any government employee who asks, receives or agrees to any bribe. Punishable by 3 days imprisonment. (2)03. Conspiracy 1. Any person who conspires to commit any crime shall be guilty of conspiracy. (To be recorded on the MDC as Conspiracy to commit OFFENCE). Punishable to the length of the offence conspired to commit. (2)04. Obstruction of Justice 1. Any person who knowingly, wilfully or intentionally alters, modifies, manufactures, plants, places, destroys, damages, conceals or moves anything used as evidence in any investigation or trial with the intent that the action will impede, hamper or prevent the trial or investigation. Punishable by 60 minutes imprisonment. (2)05. Witness Intimidation 1. Any person who prevents or dissuades any victim of a crime or witness to a crime from making a report to any peace officer, prosecuting agency or judge. Punishable by 2 days imprisonment. (2)06. Misconduct in Public Office 1. Any peace officer or government official or employee that wilfully neglects to perform his duty and/or wilfully misconducts himself to such a degree as to amount to an abuse of the public's trust in the office holder, without reasonable excuse or justification. Punishable by 3 days imprisonment. (2)07. Contempt of Court 1. Any person who does the following is guilty of contempt of court: a. Engages in disorderly, contemptuous, or insolent behaviour committed during a trial, in the immediate view and presence of the court, and directly tending to interrupt its proceedings or to impair the respect due to its authority; b. Commits a breach of the peace, noise, or other disturbance directly tending to interrupt the proceedings of the court; c. Disobeys or resists any injunction, order, or process of a court; or, d. Contumaciously refuses to be sworn as a witness or, when so sworn, refuses to answer a material question. Punishable by 30 minutes imprisonment. (2)08. Filing a False Report 1. Any person who files a criminal report to a peace officer or any government agency, knowing the report to be false. Punishable by 30 minutes imprisonment. (2)09. Misuse of an Emergency Hotline 1. Any person who knowingly misuses the usage of any emergency telephone system for any reason other than an emergency. Punishable by a fine of up to two hundred fifty dollars ($250). (2)10. Obstruction of an Emergency Worker 1. Any person who wilfully resists, delays or obstructs any peace officer, firefighter, emergency medical technician or any other emergency worker in the course of their duties. Punishable by 60 minutes imprisonment. (2)11. Impersonation of a Peace Officer 1. Any person who falsely identifies themselves or another as a peace officer. Punishable by 30 minutes imprisonment. TITLE 3 - CRIMES AGAINST THE PERSON (3)01. Murder 1. First degree murder - A person who kills another and is wilful and premeditated, or which is committed in the perpetration of any felony offence. Punishable by 25 days imprisonment. 2. Second degree murder - Any other type of murder. Punishable by 15 days imprisonment. (3)02. Manslaughter 1. Manslaughter is the unlawful killing of another without malice or intention. There are three types of manslaughter: a. Voluntary - upon a sudden quarrel or heat of passion; Punishable by 6 days imprisonment. b. Involuntary - in the commission of an unlawful act not amounting to a felony; Punishable by 3 days imprisonment. c. Vehicular - driving a vehicle in the commission of an unlawful act not amounting to a felony, or driving a vehicle in the commission of a lawful act with gross negligence. Punishable by 2 days imprisonment. (3)03. Mayhem 1. Any person who unlawfully and maliciously causes permanent disability or disfigurement of another, or deprives another of a limb, organ or member of his body. Punishable by 8 days imprisonment. (3)04. Torture 1. Any person who, with the intent to cause cruel or extreme pain and suffering for the purpose of revenge, extortion, pursuant or for any sadistic purpose, inflicts grievous bodily harm upon another, is guilty of torture. Punishable by 15 days imprisonment. (3)05. Kidnap 1. Any person who forcibly, or by any other means, installs fear, steals talks, holds, detains or arrests any person and bring the person to another place. Punishable by 8 days imprisonment. (3)06. False Imprisonment 1. Any person who unlawfully restrains, detains or confines another person without their consent. Punishable by 60 minutes imprisonment. 2. Commits false imprisonment using violence, menace, fraud or deceit Punishable by 2 days imprisonment. 3. False imprisonment for the purposes of protection from arrest, or using the person as a shield. Punishable by 5 days imprisonment. (3)07. Human Trafficking 1. Any person who deprives or violates the personal liberty of another with the intent to obtain forced labour or services. Punishable by 8 days imprisonment. (3)08. Robbery 1. Any person who takes personal property from another with the intention of permanently depriving them of it, with the use of force or installing fear upon another. There are two types of robbery: a. First degree - Robbery within an inhabited residence or business accessible by the public or any robbery with a deadly weapon or firearm. Punishable by 6 days imprisonment. b. Second degree - Any other robbery. Punishable by 3 days imprisonment. (3)09. Assault 1. Any person who attempts, coupled with the ability to do so, to commit a violent injury to another. Punishable by 30 minutes imprisonment. 2. Any person who commits an assault on any emergency worker whilst executing their lawful duties, who knows or reasonably should know that the victim is an emergency worker. Punishable by 60 minutes imprisonment. (3)10. Assault with a Deadly Weapon 1. Any person who commits an assault on another with a deadly weapon or firearm, or by any means likely to produce grievous bodily harm. Punishable by 3 days imprisonment. 2. Any person who commits an assault with a deadly weapon or firearm, or by any means likely to produce grievous bodily harm on any emergency work whilst executing their lawful duties, who knows or reasonably should know that the victim is an emergency worker. Punishable by 5 days imprisonment. (3)11. Battery 1. Any person who wilfully or unlawfully uses force or violence upon another. Punishable by 60 minutes imprisonment. 2. Any person who commits battery against an emergency worker whilst executing their lawful duties, who knows or reasonably should know that the victim is an emergency worker. Punishable by 2 days imprisonment. 3. Any person who commits battery against another and causes grievous bodily harm. Punishable by 4 days imprisonment. 4. Any person who commits battery against another and causes grievous bodily harm to any emergency worker whilst executing their lawful duties, who knows or reasonably should know that the victim is an emergency worker. Punishable by 6 days imprisonment. (3)12. Sexual Assault 1. Any person who touches an intimate part of another without consent from the other, with the purpose of sexual arousal, gratification or sexual abuse. Punishable by 3 days imprisonment. (3)13. Rape 1. Any person who performs an act of sexual intercourse against the other by means of force, violence, duress, menace, fear or otherwise. Punishable by 8 days imprisonment. 2. Any person who performs an act of sexual intercourse against another under the age of 18 years old. Punishable by 10 days imprisonment. (3)14. Harassment 1. Any person who wilfully or maliciously repeatedly harasses another knowing that the contact is unwanted by the victim or puts the victim in fear of his personal safety or the safety of their immediate family. There must be at least 2 courses of conduct for this offence to be committed. Punishable by 60 minutes imprisonment. (3)15. Stalking 1. Any person who wilfully, maliciously, and repeatedly follows another person and who makes a credible threat with the intent to place that person in reasonable fear for his or her safety, or the safety of his or her immediate family is guilty stalking, punishable by. Punishable by 2 days imprisonment. (3)15. Soliciting Prostitution 1. Any person who procures, causes, induced, persuades or encourages another to become a prostitute, or who, knowing another is a prostitute, lives or derives support or maintenance in whole or part from the earnings of the person's prostitution, or who solicits or receives compensation for soliciting the person. Punishable by 3 days imprisonment. (3)16. Discharging a Firearm 1. Any person who willfully discharges a firearm in a grossly negligent manner which could result in injury or death to a person. Punishable by 60 minutes imprisonment. TITLE 4 - CRIMES AGAINST PROPERTY (4)01. Arson 1. Any person who wilfully and maliciously sets fire to, burns or causes to be burned, any structure, forest land or property. Punishable by 3 days imprisonment. 2. Any person who wilfully and maliciously sets fire to, burns or causes to be burned, any structure, forest land or property and causes grievous bodily harm to another, or causes an inhabited structure or property to burn. Punishable by 7 days imprisonment. (4)02. Criminal Damage 1. Any person who either wilfully, maliciously or recklessly damages property belonging to another person. Punishable by 30 minutes imprisonment. (4)03. Theft 1. Any person who steals, takes, carries, leads or drives away the personal property of another with the intention of permanently depriving them of the property OR any person who fraudulently appropriates property entrusted to him or her, or who knowingly and designedly by any false or fraudulent representation or pretense, defrauds another of money, labor, real or personal property. a. Grand Theft - Theft of property above the value of $10,000 Punishable by 60 minutes imprisonment. b. Grand Theft of a Firearm Punishable by 3 days imprisonment. c. Grand Theft of an Automobile Punishable by 2 days imprisonment. d. Petty Theft Punishable by 30 minutes imprisonment. (4)04. Possession of Stolen Goods 1. Any person who is in possession or assists in the transferring of property that has been stolen or obtained in a manner constituting theft, knowing that the property was stolen or obtained in such a way. Punishable by 30 minutes imprisonment. (4)05. Burglary 1. Any person who enters any building, railroad car, cargo container, aircraft, vessel or vehicle with the intent to commit theft or any felony. a. First Degree - Burglary of an inhabited building. Punishable by 3 days imprisonment. b. Second Degree - All other kinds of burglary. Punishable by 60 minutes imprisonment. 2. Any person who has with them any instrument or tool with intent to break into any building, railroad car, cargo container, aircraft, vessel or vehicle. Punishable by 30 minutes imprisonment. (4)06. Forgery 1. Any person who, with the intent to defraud, counterfeits or forges the seal, handwriting, or signature of another person or of a fictitious person, or alters, corrupts, or falsifies any record or document, or falsely makes, alters, forges, or counterfeits a monetary instrument, or presents any of these things as true and genuine, knowing the same to be false, is guilty of forgery. Punishable by 60 minutes imprisonment. (4)07. False Personation 1. Any person who falsely personates another in either his or her private or official capacity, and in that assumed character does anything to benefit his or herself or to the detriment of the person being impersonated Punishable by 60 minutes imprisonment. (4)08. Impersonating a Peace Officer 1. Any person other than one who by law is given the authority of a peace officer, who falsely represents him or herself as a peace officer, with the intent of fraudulently impersonating a peace officer. Punishable by 60 minutes imprisonment. (4)09. Extortion 1. Obtaining property from another, with consent, or the obtaining of an official act of a public officer, induced by a wrongful use of force or fear or under color of official right. Punishable by 2 days imprisonment. TITLE 5 - MISCELLANEOUS CRIMES (5)01. Disturbing the Peace 1. Any person who does any of the following is guilty of disturbing the peace: a. Maliciously and wilfully disturbs another person by loud and unreasonable noise, b. Unlawfully fights in a public place or challenges another to a fight in a public place; or c. Uses offensive words or language in a public place which is likely to provoke an immediate violence reaction. d. Draws a deadly weapon in the presence of others in a rude, angry or threatening manner. Punishable by 30 minutes imprisonment. (5)02. Inciting a Riot 1. Any person who, with the intent to, incites or urges other to participate in a riot as defined in (5)04. Riot. Punishable by 30 minutes imprisonment. (5)03. Unlawful Assembly 1. Where 3 or more persons are present together who use, or threaten unlawful violence for a common purpose and the conduct of them is likely to cause another to fear for their personal safety. Punishable by 45 minutes imprisonment. (5)04. Riot 1. Where 6 or more persons are present together who use, or threaten unlawful violence for a common purpose and the conduct of them is likely to cause another to fear for their personal safety. Punishable by 60 minutes imprisonment. (5)05. Failing to Disperse 1. Any person who remains present at the place of a riot, unlawful assembly or any other kind of disorder after being lawfully ordered to disperse by a peace officer. Punishable by 30 minutes imprisonment. (5)06. Animal Cruelty 1. Any person who maliciously and intentionally maims, mutilates, tortures or wounds a living animal, or maliciously and intentionally kills an animal. Punishable by 3 days imprisonment. (5)07. Trespass 1. Any person who enters a private property that is not open to the public, without the consent of the owner or person in charge of the property, remains on the private property after being requested to leave the property by the owner or person in charge, is guilty of trespass. Punishable by 30 minutes imprisonment. (5)08. Child Neglect 1. Any person who wilfully causes or permits any child under the age of 18 to suffer, or inflicts thereon unjustifiable physical pain or mental suffering, or having the care of custody of any child, wilfully causes or permits the person or health of that child to be injured, or wilfully causes or permits that child to be placed in a situation where his or her person or health is endangered. Punishable by 3 days imprisonment. (5)09. Underage Drinking 1. Any person who sells, furnishes, gives or causes to be sold, furnished or given away any alcoholic beverage to any person under the age of 21. 2. Any person who sells, furnishes, gives or causes to be sold, furnished or given away any tobacco product to any person under the age of 18. Punishable by 30 minutes imprisonment. (5)10. Underage Smoking 1. Any person under the age of 18 who has in their possession any tobacco product. 2. Any person under the age of 21 who has in their possession any alcoholic beverage. Punishable by a fine of two hundred fifty dollars ($250). (5)11. Disorderly Conduct 1. Any person who does any of the following is guilty of disorderly conduct: a. Solicits anyone to engage in or who engages in lewd or dissolute conduct in any public place or any place open to the public or exposed to public view. b. Solicits or agrees to engage in or engages in any act of prostitution. c. Aggressively begs in any public place. d. Lodges in any building, structure, vehicle or place, whether public or private, without the permission of the owner or person in charge. e. Under the influence of intoxicating liquor in a condition that he or she is unable to exercise care for themselves or their safety. f. Loiter, prowl or wander upon the private property of another without visible or lawful business with the owner or occupant. Punishable by 30 minutes imprisonment. (5)12. Littering 1. Any person who discards, drops or scatters waste matter in a place other than a container or proper disposal, in a public or private property, other than his or hers own property. Punishable by a fine of up to $100. (5)13. Illegal Gambling 1. Any person who engages in pool selling or bookmaking, or who deals, plays, carries on, opens or causes to be opened, or who conducts, either as an owner or employee, any game played with cards, dice or any device for money, checks, credit or other representative of value, without license to do so. Punishable by 30 minutes imprisonment. (5)14. Wiretapping 1. Any person, other than a peace officer acting within the scope of his or her authority, or a private citizen acting under the direction and control of said peace officer, intentionally and without the consent of all parties to a confidential communication, uses any electronic recording device to eavesdrop upon or record the confidential communication. Punishable by 60 minutes imprisonment.
  10. Here is the draft of the simplified penal code I have worked on, there may be mistakes and this is not to be used in-game at the moment. I'd like opinions on any definitions, prison times, or anything that should be added. I still have Title 6. Control of Deadly Weapons to rework.
  11. I found out today that people are being put in jail by bored LSPD members for minor traffic violations such as: Not stopping at a single intersection as an example. Tiny single incidents like that are being compared to reckless driving when it's not meeting the realistic standard required for that. Ya'll need to make it clear what charges are for what so morons don't break characters over their own boredom by twisting these charges around. Unlike in real life, these people are judge, jury and executioner. There's no DA handling these situations.People need to keep in mind that in real life, you don't just go charging people on a whim. The judicial process is very expensive. Incarcerating people is very expensive. Lawsuits are very expensive even if the case is beat. So officers should be keeping all that in mind when they decide to do things similar to that. Supervisors should keep in mind the consequences of subordinates trying to do that anyways. It gets shrugged off then people end up letting that behavior happen when they themselves got a rank. Then the faction's contaminated and many people end up getting bad RP. . In my friend's case, a supervisor known better but the person who was trying to do it wasn't someone new to LEO RP.
  12. As people mentioned before, make titles. It's not about dumbing it down, it's about to make it more organised & easier for everyone's sake. This is still a game after all.
  13. Like others, I find it quite difficult to navigate through the penal code and find the precise offense that my suspect committed. I am not saying it's unreadable but it is sort of not efficient imo. I do think that @the_criserk's idea could be much more useful.
  14. Just make it control f able with the words "misdemeanor" and "felony" to it, No need to dumb it down.
  15. Charges of evading or eluding, resisting should be defined. Such as Evading/Eluding should be in the Vehicle Code. While Resisting should be in its own charge in the regular penal code or an add on to Eluding/Evading. Failure to Yield to Police Lights should be another charge in the vehicle code.
  16. This pretty much explains it. It's very hard to navigate the penal code/Vehicle code to find the right charge for the right crime. Bullet point would make it easier for us to not tab out from ingame and try to navigate the penal code and let the other party waiting ingame do nothing whilst we browse the forums. Best way from a PD perspective is still to just be able to search with ctrl+f and find the charge your looking for without getting 3-4 examples in different sections with no information about the prison time amount, make the actual charge and prison amount bold.
  17. The way the current Penal Code is written is very realistic. Does that mean it's good? No. This isn't a court house and it is almost without a doubt that nobody here is a lawyer (and if you are one I think you can agree on saying you don't want to have the same complex legal jargon you face already). Anyways, without trying to muck up the Penal Code I suggest that it be properly formatted and perhaps toss in some colors. Definitions and examples of situations can be in spoilers. The problem is, and I'm saying this from experience, it is very difficult to create a nice format on this type of forum. It's not PHPBB so it becomes much harder to properly format your text.
  18. Honestly, yeah, this seems to be my biggest flaw so far as I find it difficult to navigate through the penal code and being forced to find a certain charge located in a certain chapter (I didn't find the charge for Resisting until yesterday). When adding charges, we're meant to add the charge as the Divison, Title and Chapter rather than having a name for each charge (which would be much easier imo), because of this, I found it easier on myself, but a bigger pain in the ass, to create a large notepad file which lists each charge as well as their designated divison, title, and chapter, as I certainly refuse to go scrolling through the penal code and CTRL+F'ing to find a keyword for a certain charge in this long, confusing list. I would suggest (if possible) adding names for each of the charges, rather than having to put in the specific title and chapter of each charge, as I find myself having to use notepad to make that easier on myself. If we were to keep it the way it is now, I would at least recommend adding hyperlinks to each chapter, that way it'll direct you down the penal code and locate the charge for you instead of having to scroll through the list and read the paragraphs.
  19. @goddessoflife @roozles @JoeWarner @Notbond @thekillergreece @San Pellegrino Everyone above has been tagged as they are in the discussions group. I would value your input on this matter please!
  20. @ObZen @Fitzy @Torque @Eriks @Mecovy @OhSoFly @Taunky @St3fan[NL] @Hollywood @Yevtushenko @AVRO DANKASTER @TrickyShot @Meadows (Seabrook) @Alexa @Pive @Sphinx @Glenn. @Missi @Kota @iFlyKid @Tseard @WhiteShadow
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